Uggla Staying

[gizmo]

For more than a year, Dan Uggla's name has been tossed around in trade rumors. Of late, he's been linked in speculation with the Rockies, who have liked him for a couple of seasons.

 

While the Marlins have a policy of listening to possible offers on just about anyone on their team, there are indications that the club is not leaning toward trading the two-time All-Star second baseman.

 

In his fifth season with Florida, Uggla is a core player who is in his second season of arbitration.

 

The Marlins are considering retaining Uggla, not only for the remainder of the year, but to sign him again for 2011, his final season of arbitration. The organization could seek a long-term contract in the offseason, but that decision has not been determined.

 

What is clear is Uggla is a player the Marlins value and hope to build around, barring a trade offer that is too tempting to pass up.

 

Uggla paces the team with 16 homers. He has driven in 52 runs, and he's batting .283.

 

In the clubhouse, Uggla's leadership is valued.

 

The Marlins are in the midst of a 10-game homestand, and no trades are expected until after it is concluded on July 25.

 

A couple of deals are possible. The two position players who may be moved are Jorge Cantu and Cody Ross. Wes Helms is a veteran who has attracted the attention of some teams, including the Yankees. The Marlins also value Helms, and hope to make him part of the organization in a coaching capacity once his playing days are over.

 

-- Joe Frisaro

 

 

 

 

 

 

What do you guys think? I wouldn't mind having Uggla for 2011 at all. With Ross and Cantu gone either at this year's deadline or offseason, that allows both Morrison and Maybin to be in the lineup in their place. I'd also like to see Wes stick around in some capacity as a coach when he is done playing. Maybe the new hitting coach?

[enterthemadness]

For more than a year, Dan Uggla's name has been tossed around in trade rumors. Of late, he's been linked in speculation with the Rockies, who have liked him for a couple of seasons.

 

While the Marlins have a policy of listening to possible offers on just about anyone on their team, there are indications that the club is not leaning toward trading the two-time All-Star second baseman.

 

In his fifth season with Florida, Uggla is a core player who is in his second season of arbitration.

 

The Marlins are considering retaining Uggla, not only for the remainder of the year, but to sign him again for 2011, his final season of arbitration. The organization could seek a long-term contract in the offseason, but that decision has not been determined.

 

What is clear is Uggla is a player the Marlins value and hope to build around, barring a trade offer that is too tempting to pass up.

 

Uggla paces the team with 16 homers. He has driven in 52 runs, and he's batting .283.

 

In the clubhouse, Uggla's leadership is valued.

 

The Marlins are in the midst of a 10-game homestand, and no trades are expected until after it is concluded on July 25.

 

A couple of deals are possible. The two position players who may be moved are Jorge Cantu and Cody Ross. Wes Helms is a veteran who has attracted the attention of some teams, including the Yankees. The Marlins also value Helms, and hope to make him part of the organization in a coaching capacity once his playing days are over.

 

-- Joe Frisaro

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What do you guys think? I wouldn't mind having Uggla for 2011 at all. With Ross and Cantu gone either at this year's deadline or offseason, that allows both Morrison and Maybin to be in the lineup in their place. I'd also like to see Wes stick around in some capacity as a coach when he is done playing. Maybe the new hitting coach?

 

If Uggla stays and I can find a job, maybe I can finally buy an UGGLA jersey. Does he have one? That is my opinion on this matter.

[Hammerhead]

So Cantu goes and Coghlan moves to 3B?

[h2r09]

good. you dont trade a guy like uggla who gives you great production from the 2b position. get rid of cantu and cody and bring up maybin and logan. way to much repitioon in this lineup and itrs been like this for the past 5 years.

[alejandrasnow]

I'm alright with Uggla staying and getting rid of Cantu (and Helms). The only issue with this is, I would imagine that it is Uggla who can net us a better return than any of the others listed in the article.

 

 

And yes entermadness, Uggla does have a jersey on sale.

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[MrMarlinPride]

I don't really mind since Uggla finds a way to produce one way or another offensively, so this pretty much means Cody and Cantu are gone by next season and that Coghlan will move to the infield. The thing that has to be figured out is who's going to play 3rd. It could be either Coghlan or Uggla. Uggla's range will most likely diminish as he ages into his 30's so 3rd could be a good option for him but we'll have to see how they do in practice games and spring training next offseason.

[h2r09]

Trade Helms. Cantu, Cody, and RObertson and try to either get mlb ready relievers or try to get some more talent for the lower minors cause we know we need it.

[Fishes on the Pond]

For more than a year, Dan Uggla's name has been tossed around in trade rumors. Of late, he's been linked in speculation with the Rockies, who have liked him for a couple of seasons.

 

While the Marlins have a policy of listening to possible offers on just about anyone on their team, there are indications that the club is not leaning toward trading the two-time All-Star second baseman.

 

In his fifth season with Florida, Uggla is a core player who is in his second season of arbitration.

 

The Marlins are considering retaining Uggla, not only for the remainder of the year, but to sign him again for 2011, his final season of arbitration. The organization could seek a long-term contract in the offseason, but that decision has not been determined.

 

What is clear is Uggla is a player the Marlins value and hope to build around, barring a trade offer that is too tempting to pass up.

 

Uggla paces the team with 16 homers. He has driven in 52 runs, and he's batting .283.

 

In the clubhouse, Uggla's leadership is valued.

 

The Marlins are in the midst of a 10-game homestand, and no trades are expected until after it is concluded on July 25.

 

A couple of deals are possible. The two position players who may be moved are Jorge Cantu and Cody Ross. Wes Helms is a veteran who has attracted the attention of some teams, including the Yankees. The Marlins also value Helms, and hope to make him part of the organization in a coaching capacity once his playing days are over.

 

-- Joe Frisaro

 

 

 

 

 

 

What do you guys think? I wouldn't mind having Uggla for 2011 at all. With Ross and Cantu gone either at this year's deadline or offseason, that allows both Morrison and Maybin to be in the lineup in their place. I'd also like to see Wes stick around in some capacity as a coach when he is done playing. Maybe the new hitting coach?

 

Why would we trade someone that the Yankees would want? Obviously they find him useful in some capacity in which we most probably can use.

 

Also the team probably does see Helms as a possible coach in that they had him work the Puerto Rican youth. I wonder why they don't use Conine who they maybe do but we don't see it. Although as a commentator I really like his chatter. Niner gives a lot of information/strategy which helps me understand baseball other than hitting a round ball with a round stick, lol :whistle

[MarlinsLou]

So Cantu goes and Coghlan moves to 3B?

 

For the love of god yes. Anything to get Coghlan out of the outfield. And if Dominguez beats him out in a year or two, you can reevaluate what you want to do at 3B. Or, just keep Uggla through 2011, net your two first round draft picks for class A consideration, and shift Coghlan over to 2B.

 

It's easy. The Marlins just need to commit to the "youth" movement and call up Morrison and Maybin (when healthy), and in September the lefty trio of West, Miller, and Jennings. It's not rebuilding, it's reloading with these guys.

[Out of the Past]

Reloading implies we're loaded. I was looking at the stats today:

 

OPS+: tied for 12th

ERA+: tied for 8th

DefEff: 13th

Rtot: 9th

Rdrs: 12th

Run differential: tied for 9th

Winning %: 10th

[Entendu]

Yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes

[miamimarlinswin]

So Cantu goes and Coghlan moves to 3B?

 

For the love of god yes. Anything to get Coghlan out of the outfield. And if Dominguez beats him out in a year or two, you can reevaluate what you want to do at 3B. Or, just keep Uggla through 2011, net your two first round draft picks for class A consideration, and shift Coghlan over to 2B.

 

It's easy. The Marlins just need to commit to the "youth" movement and call up Morrison and Maybin (when healthy), and in September the lefty trio of West, Miller, and Jennings. It's not rebuilding, it's reloading with these guys.

 

I like your idea a lot. :thumbup

[Shaft]

I like Uggla's power, and clubhouse leadership (specially since Hanley doesn't seem to embrace that role...). I like this news.

 

EDIT: lol @ Great production at 2nd and who else is going to open jars in the dugout?

[Backin2008]

Uggla's numbers are just about as good as Ramirez' are this year. I think Uggla's track record is pretty darn good and I'm glad the Marlins sound like they are going to keep him. No team (even the Yankees) can compete with the power of Ramirez and Uggla in the middle infield.

[Erick]

If they want to keep him another year, cool...but Uggla isn't worth a long-term contract, sorry.

[Anonymous]

If they want to keep him another year, cool...but Uggla isn't worth a long-term contract, sorry.

 

 

I wouldn't say he's not worth it. Uggla is a very good player.

[30plus]

If they want to keep him another year, cool...but Uggla isn't worth a long-term contract, sorry.

 

 

There's no need, either. Dominguez should be ready to take over third by 2012, with Coghlan shifting over to second. We're going to need his production next year with all the youth settling in, but after 2011 you can let him walk and take the compensation picks. Which may even be a better return than what you could get for him this offseason.

[Erick]

If they want to keep him another year, cool...but Uggla isn't worth a long-term contract, sorry.

 

 

I wouldn't say he's not worth it. Uggla is a very good player.

 

 

Well, I should've worded that differently, actually. His bat is certainly valuable, so he might be worth it to some teams. However, I don't see how he fits into the Marlins long-term plans, after the 2011 season.

[dom2613]

While I know Dominguez is very young Im still not sold on him. Maybe a 2 year contract with an option for a 3rd year for Uggla?

[Erick]

While I know Dominguez is very young Im still not sold on him. Maybe a 2 year contract with an option for a 3rd year for Uggla?

 

 

 

He's part of the core we're trying to build around. I understand about potential busts, etc. but every successful organization (especially small market teams like the Marlins) must trust their prospects. You can't just sign Uggla long-term because you're afraid Dominguez won't pan out. I could understand such a deal in the case where Dominguez would still need a couple of years, but the way things are going, Dominguez will probably need another year in the minors, if that. He's developing, nicely.

[Sirspud]

While I know Dominguez is very young Im still not sold on him. Maybe a 2 year contract with an option for a 3rd year for Uggla?

 

 

 

He's part of the core we're trying to build around. I understand about potential busts, etc. but every successful organization (especially small market teams like the Marlins) must trust their prospects. You can't just sign Uggla long-term because you're afraid Dominguez won't pan out. I could understand such a deal in the case where Dominguez would still need a couple of years, but the way things are going, Dominguez will probably need another year in the minors, if that. He's developing, nicely.

 

Dominguez will be here eventually, but there's a difference between trusting your prospects and rushing them. The organization has tried to rush him desperately through the minors and he hasn't always reacted positively. Right now he's batting .232 and isn't even slugging over .400- he'll remain in the longterm plans but those plans are just that-longterm. The best thing for the still very young Dominguez, which also happens to be the best for the Marlins (in making sure a prospect is developed properly) is to slow things down for him. He can't be moved up the moment he has a good week. Let him learn how to turn good weeks into good months, and then good months into good years. And more importantly, when his bat goes cold for a while, he needs to learn how to work that out.

 

Let's let Dominguez develop on a normal time-table, and in the meantime we need to find a way to field a potential winner next year and, more importantly, 2012. When Dominguez starts knocking on the door in 1.5-2 years and we've got somebody holding down third, it will be a good problem to have.

[Backin2008]

While I know Dominguez is very young Im still not sold on him. Maybe a 2 year contract with an option for a 3rd year for Uggla?

 

 

 

He's part of the core we're trying to build around. I understand about potential busts, etc. but every successful organization (especially small market teams like the Marlins) must trust their prospects. You can't just sign Uggla long-term because you're afraid Dominguez won't pan out. I could understand such a deal in the case where Dominguez would still need a couple of years, but the way things are going, Dominguez will probably need another year in the minors, if that. He's developing, nicely.

 

I heard the same stuff coming out of Lou's mouth about Jeremy Hermida. Big time prospect who sucked in the majors. I'm not saying Dominguez will be a bust but you already know you'll get 30+ homers out of Uggla.

[Backin2008]

While I know Dominguez is very young Im still not sold on him. Maybe a 2 year contract with an option for a 3rd year for Uggla?

 

 

 

He's part of the core we're trying to build around. I understand about potential busts, etc. but every successful organization (especially small market teams like the Marlins) must trust their prospects. You can't just sign Uggla long-term because you're afraid Dominguez won't pan out. I could understand such a deal in the case where Dominguez would still need a couple of years, but the way things are going, Dominguez will probably need another year in the minors, if that. He's developing, nicely.

 

Dominguez will be here eventually, but there's a difference between trusting your prospects and rushing them. The organization has tried to rush him desperately through the minors and he hasn't always reacted positively. Right now he's batting .232 and isn't even slugging over .400- he'll remain in the longterm plans but those plans are just that-longterm. The best thing for the still very young Dominguez, which also happens to be the best for the Marlins (in making sure a prospect is developed properly) is to slow things down for him. He can't be moved up the moment he has a good week. Let him learn how to turn good weeks into good months, and then good months into good years. And more importantly, when his bat goes cold for a while, he needs to learn how to work that out.

 

Let's let Dominguez develop on a normal time-table, and in the meantime we need to find a way to field a potential winner next year and, more importantly, 2012. When Dominguez starts knocking on the door in 1.5-2 years and we've got somebody holding down third, it will be a good problem to have.

 

By then hopefully the Marlins will be a really good team who might consider using Dominguez as a trade chip (ala Adrian Gonzalez) to win another World Series.

[BafflingBeerman]

I would like to keep him maybe for another two to three years. But I am ignorant on who is really up and coming and will be ready by then. I like Uggla's seeming leadership behind the scenes and I think he is a nice coutnerbalance to Hanley, in all areas.

[Erick]

While I know Dominguez is very young Im still not sold on him. Maybe a 2 year contract with an option for a 3rd year for Uggla?

 

 

 

He's part of the core we're trying to build around. I understand about potential busts, etc. but every successful organization (especially small market teams like the Marlins) must trust their prospects. You can't just sign Uggla long-term because you're afraid Dominguez won't pan out. I could understand such a deal in the case where Dominguez would still need a couple of years, but the way things are going, Dominguez will probably need another year in the minors, if that. He's developing, nicely.

 

Dominguez will be here eventually, but there's a difference between trusting your prospects and rushing them. The organization has tried to rush him desperately through the minors and he hasn't always reacted positively. Right now he's batting .232 and isn't even slugging over .400- he'll remain in the longterm plans but those plans are just that-longterm. The best thing for the still very young Dominguez, which also happens to be the best for the Marlins (in making sure a prospect is developed properly) is to slow things down for him. He can't be moved up the moment he has a good week. Let him learn how to turn good weeks into good months, and then good months into good years. And more importantly, when his bat goes cold for a while, he needs to learn how to work that out.

 

Let's let Dominguez develop on a normal time-table, and in the meantime we need to find a way to field a potential winner next year and, more importantly, 2012. When Dominguez starts knocking on the door in 1.5-2 years and we've got somebody holding down third, it will be a good problem to have.

 

 

I think we'll all agree on that statement.