gizmo Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 The Marlins appear to have concluded that rookie third baseman Matt Dominguez isn't ready, so they're actively exploring outside options. Among names that could fit if they don't make their current clubs: Pedro Feliz (Royals), Felipe Lopez (Rays) and Eric Chavez(Yankees). The just-released Garrett Atkins (Pirates) could be another possibility. http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog?name=stark_jayson&id=6250527&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmlb%2fblog%3fname%3dstark_jayson%26id%3d6250527 He started off strong, but has since fizzled. Who do you guys think we should target? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Thank God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overhed Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Please please please try to get Chavez. The guy has done a great job in ST and looks healthy for the first time in along time. He could be the next Cantu (but with much better defense). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watertown_kid Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 trade Boni for Chavez or Helms or both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Who didn't see this coming? I mean sure, his defense is good enough to be a contributor, but if one aspect of his game is severely lacking you do not want to rush him to the big leagues and screw up his development and arbitration. The Marlins shouldn't have even taken this option seriously from the beginning when he could barely hit at AA. They should have traded Nunez for a contingency option before spring training even started. And I'm not speaking in hindsight, because I suggested this back then. Of course it isn't even rocket science. In my opinion this shows a lot of poor planning on the Marlins part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 For being a 20 year old in AA Dominguez really wasnt that bad at all. He does need more polish, but I think in a year or 2 he will have a very solid MLB bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dim Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Hey, I got an idea... *Waits to get pelted by tomatoes* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 So, I'm down for some Michael Young, provided Leo is included in the deal to offset some salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 For being a 20 year old in AA Dominguez really wasnt that bad at all. He does need more polish, but I think in a year or 2 he will have a very solid MLB bat. 2 years, please. He might not need 2 more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsLou Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Who didn't see this coming? I mean sure, his defense is good enough to be a contributor, but if one aspect of his game is severely lacking you do not want to rush him to the big leagues and screw up his development and arbitration. The Marlins shouldn't have even taken this option seriously from the beginning when he could barely hit at AA. They should have traded Nunez for a contingency option before spring training even started. And I'm not speaking in hindsight, because I suggested this back then. Of course it isn't even rocket science. In my opinion this shows a lot of poor planning on the Marlins part. They should have just signed Eric Chavez and Andy LaRoche to minor league deals and tell Dominguez, beat them and it's yours. Everyone is happy. Poor planning is an understatement. It's not even moving Nunez for something, it's not even bringing in free competition. Saying that, the Royals have an over abundance of kind of cool guys (Avilies, Getz, Gordon, Betemit) and super prospects coming in June. We'd have to dangle at least Sanabia/West and a solid reliever prospect, or hell Sanches or Badenhop, but I think there is mileage there. And if you can get Avilies, you may have figured out 2B for next year which would be huge. They need young pitching. We need hope at 3B. I also like Chris Davis. Buck and Davis would be a hilarious 7-8 who probably hit 45-50 HR, but OBP under .300. It's like the Tigers that one year they played Inge, Thames, and Monroe. Maybe this is to ambitious, but there are names out there that shouldn't cost much in trade or payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Dominguez is 21(22 in August) which is young but he is right where he should be in baseball age, as this will be his 5th year(4th full) playing minor league baseball. I would guess the team will have the minor league instructors working with him all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bret Hart Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Possible available 3B, Pedro Feliz (Royals) : 2-for-19 (.105) 1hr 1rbi 3w 3k Felipe Lopez (Rays) : 12-for-37 (.324) 0hr 3rbi 8w 4k Eric Chavez(Yankees) : 13-for-35 (.371) 0hr 3rbi 2w 5k Garrett Atkins (FA) : 4-for-31 (.129) 1hr 4rbi 2w 11k I think Feliz and Atkins' career is done as a mlb player. Chavez is good comebacker, but he was notorious for injury prone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Who didn't see this coming? I mean sure, his defense is good enough to be a contributor, but if one aspect of his game is severely lacking you do not want to rush him to the big leagues and screw up his development and arbitration. The Marlins shouldn't have even taken this option seriously from the beginning when he could barely hit at AA. They should have traded Nunez for a contingency option before spring training even started. And I'm not speaking in hindsight, because I suggested this back then. Of course it isn't even rocket science. In my opinion this shows a lot of poor planning on the Marlins part. They should have just signed Eric Chavez and Andy LaRoche to minor league deals and tell Dominguez, beat them and it's yours. Everyone is happy. Poor planning is an understatement. It's not even moving Nunez for something, it's not even bringing in free competition. Saying that, the Royals have an over abundance of kind of cool guys (Avilies, Getz, Gordon, Betemit) and super prospects coming in June. We'd have to dangle at least Sanabia/West and a solid reliever prospect, or hell Sanches or Badenhop, but I think there is mileage there. And if you can get Avilies, you may have figured out 2B for next year which would be huge. They need young pitching. We need hope at 3B. I also like Chris Davis. Buck and Davis would be a hilarious 7-8 who probably hit 45-50 HR, but OBP under .300. It's like the Tigers that one year they played Inge, Thames, and Monroe. Maybe this is to ambitious, but there are names out there that shouldn't cost much in trade or payroll. I don't even think the Marlins should have even really considered the possibility of Dominguez being the opening day starter, even if he had a decent spring. He hit decently in the second half of 2010, but going from AA with limited success to the majors is a pretty big leap. They should have planned for Dominguez to start in AAA in 2011 even if he had had a good spring. Make him prove himself in New Orleans for a couple of months and then call him up. That's a smart thing to do in terms of arbitration as well. If I were running the show, and certainly people are free to disagree, but I never would have given Dominguez the idea that he would be considered the opening day starter. Invite him to spring training, start him in New Orleans, but plan on a September call-up. If he's crushing the PCL (keeping in mind the proper league adjustments), then maybe call him up sometime earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Dominguez is 21(22 in August) which is young but he is right where he should be in baseball age, as this will be his 5th year(4th full) playing minor league baseball. I would guess the team will have the minor league instructors working with him all year. Yeah, but that means nothing if he has trouble hitting in AA. He got a little bit better in the second half, but he's not ready to make that jump unless the Marlins are satisfied with him being no bat and all glove. From what I can gather, he's had some major concerns with the mechanics of his swing that have been in the process of being sorted out. Being 22 in August isn't justification enough to call him up unless he shows he can hit well in the minors first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I never said it was. I see him as a mid season callup next year most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Who didn't see this coming? In my opinion this shows a lot of poor planning on the Marlins part. Agreed, it's worried me since the Uggla trade went down, and not shockingly here we are. I swear this organization deliberately ignores gaping holes in the team every year (this year and in 2009 it's 3rd base, last year it was the bullpen, etc.). Either that or they're working a year behind, because this year we fixed the bullpen, but made no effort to work on our infield depth after moving Uggla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Dominguez is 21(22 in August) which is young but he is right where he should be in baseball age, as this will be his 5th year(4th full) playing minor league baseball. I would guess the team will have the minor league instructors working with him all year. Right, but he was a really raw prospect coming out of HS (and was drafted at 17 I believe). To think that a 21 year old who hasn't played above AA should be a major league starter after struggling with his hitting at AA is absurd, and I don't get why the Marlins completely ignored this during the offseason. I would have rather spent the Vazquez money (or part of it) on some 3B help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dim Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I never said it was. I see him as a mid season callup next year most likely. Midseason call up this year is more likely, especially given the hole the organization dug itself by putting all of its chips in a 21 year old who has had a history of struggles at the plate in the minors. I like Dominguez, I was rooting for him to win the starting 3rd base spot, but we should've all seen ahead of time that his bat wasn't ready. I think most of us were blinded by his amazing defense that we were willing to let a .200 BA slide for a gold glove caliber player at 3B. Now, I don't the Marlins have any choice but to put the full court press on Michael Young. Maybe I'm thinking big here, but they screwed up. If they can get Texas to take on even half of the salary, it's a win. They want to bring Feliz into the rotation, Nunez is expendable, we don't fit perfectly as trade partners, but I think we could work something out. Eric Chavez isn't a bad idea, kind of the Jorge Cantu shot in the dark, hope for the best thing. I still have a hunch the Marlins are going to make one last try at Young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I get a kick out of Loria getting pissed about the team underachieving yet he leaves gaping holes year in and year out. Give Crede a shot if he's still out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Beinfest Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Am I the only one who is happy to work with what we've got? Ozzie Martinez anybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Who didn't see this coming? In my opinion this shows a lot of poor planning on the Marlins part. Agreed, it's worried me since the Uggla trade went down, and not shockingly here we are. I swear this organization deliberately ignores gaping holes in the team every year (this year and in 2009 it's 3rd base, last year it was the bullpen, etc.). Either that or they're working a year behind, because this year we fixed the bullpen, but made no effort to work on our infield depth after moving Uggla. The bullpen wasn't ignored last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Also, I don't really care for Michael Young. There are a bunch of cheap options out there who could do a decent job maybe, if given the chance. Heck, there might be a couple of guys in the organization who might just be able to pass for a respectable job. If the Marlins want to trade Leo Nunez, I'd much rather go the route of trading him for a guy like Kevin Slowey of the Twins. If we're going to win anything this year, it's going to be based on the strength of our pitching. Slowey only upgrades that/adds more depth to it. It appears as though the Twins don't have a spot for him, and they're interested in relievers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Slowey would be a cool addition. Don't know if they'll do it, though. I read a report on MLBtraderumors.com that says we are unlikely to look at options outside of the organization. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/florida_marlins/index.html I think they just might go with a platoon with Bonifacio/Helms. Or maybe Donnie Murphy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Hey, I got an idea... *Waits to get pelted by tomatoes* I wonder what he's laughing at :$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnellders Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Would definately prefer to get a 3B from outside the organisation, and leave the current candidates on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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