:lol

 

Today's line...

 

Vaz- 7IP, 4H, 3R, 3ER, 0BB, 10K's, 1 HR, 5.14 ERA And he had a single at the plate and scored a run.

 

And I don't have the exact numbers..but this is his 6th straight quality start after the horrible Arizona game.

 

http://espn.go.com/m.../javier-vazquez

 

Past 6 starts...7.09 ERA to now 5.14 ERA. :o magical.

 

29 K's last 6 games...3 BB's...:o

Yay Javy! Cheer for Javy pitching!

Javier Vazquez deserves this he has pitched awesome of late! So glad he has turned things around.

Imagine if the bats were typical today though, 3 run shot couldve cost us the game just like the 2 run error did yesterday...

 

but yes he's definitely turned it around since the start of the season, in a time of need with JJ gone

The three run shot was a little misleading. The two guys on base got on base due to bloops and infield hits.

I'm a big fan of him getting traded for something.

I'm a big fan of him getting traded for something.

 

 

I'm sure he'd want to be traded to a contender, so it might happen. We could probably get something pretty decent for him.

I'm a big fan of him getting traded for something.

 

 

I'm sure he'd want to be traded to a contender, so it might happen. We could probably get something pretty decent for him.

 

 

No, no trade cause. Vaz is only gone if team gets a 3B from a team. And this team can go on a magical run...2003 all over again...mark it down.

I'm a big fan of him getting traded for something.

 

 

I'm sure he'd want to be traded to a contender, so it might happen. We could probably get something pretty decent for him.

 

 

No, no trade cause. Vaz is only gone if team gets a 3B from a team. And this team can go on a magical run...2003 all over again...mark it down.

 

 

What?

Hahahaha

I actually feel confident for his starts now :cool

I'm a big fan of him getting traded for something.

 

 

I'm sure he'd want to be traded to a contender, so it might happen. We could probably get something pretty decent for him.

 

 

No, no trade cause. Vaz is only gone if team gets a 3B from a team. And this team can go on a magical run...2003 all over again...mark it down.

 

 

What?

 

I didn't quite understand that either. He does have a no trade clause, but I don't see what getting a 3B has to do with that. He is saying he wants to stay here, but that could be just "the right thing to say" type of quote.

 

It is kinda funny how he has joined the ever growing list of guys that are "a waste of a uniform" to being an integral part of us winning games.

I'm a big fan of him getting traded for something.

 

 

I'm sure he'd want to be traded to a contender, so it might happen. We could probably get something pretty decent for him.

 

Considering how the year started for the team as a whole and for him specifically... I'd be sooo jealous if Javy is on a playoff team and nobody else from this ballclub is. The guy that sucked in April and May makes it and nobody else does? Shoot me.

I'm a big fan of him getting traded for something.

 

 

I'm sure he'd want to be traded to a contender, so it might happen. We could probably get something pretty decent for him.

 

 

No, no trade cause. Vaz is only gone if team gets a 3B from a team. And this team can go on a magical run...2003 all over again...mark it down.

 

 

What?

 

I didn't quite understand that either. He does have a no trade clause, but I don't see what getting a 3B has to do with that. He is saying he wants to stay here, but that could be just "the right thing to say" type of quote.

 

It is kinda funny how he has joined the ever growing list of guys that are "a waste of a uniform" to being an integral part of us winning games.

 

His transformation and random dominant games/stretches are mystifying compared to how he was at the beginning of the year. I believe he once through over 70 pitches against the Phillies and didn't have a single swing-and-miss strike. And now he's striking out 10 in 7 innings.

 

Let him say he's happy here; maybe it'll help us get a little something (more) for him.

If teams are willing to look at his recent success, I think he could actually be a really nice piece and help some team out down the stretch.

I actually feel confident for his starts now :cool

 

Exactly, whereas before, I would usually expect a loss.

Vazquez isn't going anywhere this year unless we release him, he specifically signed the 1-year deal with the team so he could be close to his home and family in P.R.

Vazquez isn't going anywhere this year unless we release him, he specifically signed the 1-year deal with the team so he could be close to his home and family in P.R.

 

 

 

The Marlins were also considered to be a possible contender in the offseason.

We're not contending anymore.

 

Plus, that deal happened months ago. He's reaching the end of his career; there's a chance he'd want to go to some contender and pitch for the remainder of the year. An opinion can change after many months; hopefully his opinion has changed.

[His transformation and random dominant games/stretches are mystifying compared to how he was at the beginning of the year. I believe he once through over 70 pitches against the Phillies and didn't have a single swing-and-miss strike. And now he's striking out 10 in 7 innings.

 

Let him say he's happy here; maybe it'll help us get a little something (more) for him.

If teams are willing to look at his recent success, I think he could actually be a really nice piece and help some team out down the stretch.

 

 

I still believe everyone put too much on K's. Just get the outs. K's just add to the pitch count and shorten the amount of innings pitched. I know this isn't a popular way of looking at things, but it's always been mine.

Vazquez isn't going anywhere this year unless we release him, he specifically signed the 1-year deal with the team so he could be close to his home and family in P.R.

 

 

 

The Marlins were also considered to be a possible contender in the offseason.

We're not contending anymore.

 

Plus, that deal happened months ago. He's reaching the end of his career; there's a chance he'd want to go to some contender and pitch for the remainder of the year. An opinion can change after many months; hopefully his opinion has changed.

 

While I tend to agree with you, we have won 8 of the last 11, and now face 10 games against the Mets/Padres in which we could feasibly go 8-2, and then we would be 3 games over .500 with still over 2 months of baseball left. You never know....

Vazquez isn't going anywhere this year unless we release him, he specifically signed the 1-year deal with the team so he could be close to his home and family in P.R.

 

 

 

The Marlins were also considered to be a possible contender in the offseason.

We're not contending anymore.

 

Plus, that deal happened months ago. He's reaching the end of his career; there's a chance he'd want to go to some contender and pitch for the remainder of the year. An opinion can change after many months; hopefully his opinion has changed.

 

While I tend to agree with you, we have won 8 of the last 11, and now face 10 games against the Mets/Padres in which we could feasibly go 8-2, and then we would be 3 games over .500 with still over 2 months of baseball left. You never know....

 

Just looked at the schedule and our next 5 series are against the Pads/Mets/Nats/Braves/Mets. By the end of that stretch we should probably have a good idea on where the seasoon is going I think.

Vazquez is the same age as Roy Halladay.

Vazquez has 600 more career Ks than Halladay.

:thumbup

Vazquez is the same age as Roy Halladay.

Vazquez has 600 more career Ks than Halladay.

:thumbup

 

 

ok.

[His transformation and random dominant games/stretches are mystifying compared to how he was at the beginning of the year. I believe he once through over 70 pitches against the Phillies and didn't have a single swing-and-miss strike. And now he's striking out 10 in 7 innings.

 

Let him say he's happy here; maybe it'll help us get a little something (more) for him.

If teams are willing to look at his recent success, I think he could actually be a really nice piece and help some team out down the stretch.

 

 

I still believe everyone put too much on K's. Just get the outs. K's just add to the pitch count and shorten the amount of innings pitched. I know this isn't a popular way of looking at things, but it's always been mine.

You are completely missing his point.

 

He's not saying that you need to have 10 strikeouts every game to be an effective/good pitcher; he's talking about how hittable Vazquez was in the beginning of the season. Failing to record swinging strikes in the beginning of the season has a lot to do with how hitters were smacking him around. It has much to do with the velocity of his fastball. Vazquez has traditionally relied upon his ability to overpower pitchers with his fastball in order to record outs. At the beginning of the season he wasn't overpowering anybody because nobody was swinging and missing at his pitches; he was completely ineffective.

 

However, now Vazquez has retained a lot of his velocity from 2009. How he did so remains a mystery, as Marlins' sportswriters don't seem motivated enough to probe further into what adjustments St. Claire (or whoever else) made to improve Vazquez's fastball and bring back to what it was in 2009. His success this season has been tightly correlated with velocity and his failure to record swinging strikes is a symptom of just how severe his dwindling fastball was in the beginning of the season.

But also, bronco is just dead wrong. Vazquez, being a guy who doesn't generate many ground balls, absolutely must strike out an above average number of hitters to succeed. There's no way around that.

[His transformation and random dominant games/stretches are mystifying compared to how he was at the beginning of the year. I believe he once through over 70 pitches against the Phillies and didn't have a single swing-and-miss strike. And now he's striking out 10 in 7 innings.

 

Let him say he's happy here; maybe it'll help us get a little something (more) for him.

If teams are willing to look at his recent success, I think he could actually be a really nice piece and help some team out down the stretch.

 

 

I still believe everyone put too much on K's. Just get the outs. K's just add to the pitch count and shorten the amount of innings pitched. I know this isn't a popular way of looking at things, but it's always been mine.

You are completely missing his point.

 

He's not saying that you need to have 10 strikeouts every game to be an effective/good pitcher; he's talking about how hittable Vazquez was in the beginning of the season. Failing to record swinging strikes in the beginning of the season has a lot to do with how hitters were smacking him around. It has much to do with the velocity of his fastball. Vazquez has traditionally relied upon his ability to overpower pitchers with his fastball in order to record outs. At the beginning of the season he wasn't overpowering anybody because nobody was swinging and missing at his pitches; he was completely ineffective.

 

However, now Vazquez has retained a lot of his velocity from 2009. How he did so remains a mystery, as Marlins' sportswriters don't seem motivated enough to probe further into what adjustments St. Claire (or whoever else) made to improve Vazquez's fastball and bring back to what it was in 2009. His success this season has been tightly correlated with velocity and his failure to record swinging strikes is a symptom of just how severe his dwindling fastball was in the beginning of the season.

 

 

 

 

Eyes over graphs anyday of the week and twice on Sundays.