I know it's not likely...but IF the Fish can get a sweep this weekend, can it be fairly said that the Marlins would be back in the Wild Card chase? It would put the Fish 5.5 games out right at the trade deadline. Get r' done!

yup, ive been looking toward this series for a while now. it seems every year whoever we are chasing gets a lot of lucky wins. We need to take care of business ourselves. Anything less then a sweep is a failure here. Especially with mccann out. WE see them 12 times the rest of the year, so i wouldnt say we are out of it, but we need to take care of business against these guys.

It certainly would put us back in the race, but I'm not holding my breath. We can't win at home, so whatever.

Like I said before, we blew are chance for the playoffs in jun, I could be wrong....

 

Lets just think about getting above .500 for now

Like I said before, we blew are chance for the playoffs in jun, I could be wrong....

 

Lets just think about getting above .500 for now

 

 

This! June crushed us!

It certainly would put us back in the race, but I'm not holding my breath. We can't win at home, so whatever.

 

 

Exactly....they can go 8-1 on this road trip, but watch them go 2-8 on the following 10 game homestand.

Like I said before, we blew are chance for the playoffs in jun, I could be wrong....

 

Lets just think about getting above .500 for now

 

 

This! June crushed us!

We are 47-30 if we don't count the month of June...

 

I think that we are still in the hunt even if we don't sweep the Braves...but we need to take 2 out of 3...

Simple answer is... yes, sweep the bravos and we're back in the hunt.

 

Now the trick is, going out and doing that.

 

Actually, winning the first two games might put us back in it in the sense that, with the deadline being Sunday, having a chance to sweep the series might make the FO pull an abrupt buyers trade in the final 24 hours.

 

We're still longshots but its not out of the question.

Just got to take it one at a time, but being (hypothetically) 5.5 games out with 2 months left to play? We are easily in the playoff hunt.

Gotta remember the following Mets series as well. If we can go 4-2 in the 6 games between the Braves and Mets, I'll be very happy.

 

I am in agreement with the "we need to win at home" statements. We certainly do ... It doesn't make sense to me that we can do so well on the road and suck at home.

Enough enough enough. The most important part is to play tonight's game. And then the next. And then the next. Stop worrying about sweeping the opponent, or going 10-0 in the next 10 games, or whatever.

 

We could lose this series 1-2, be 10.5 games out, and you'd all be abandoning ship. And then over the course of the next 10 games we could go 8-2 and the Braves could go 2-8 and then we'd be 4.5 games back.

 

It's all a bunch of bulls***. Just continue to worry about the next game and nothing more.

We're not catching the Braves.

As I risk sounding like an idealistic moron, I always hold out a little inkling of hope that we will make the playoffs as long as we're not mathematically eliminated.

I'm similar. I'm realistic... realistically speaking we are currently playing at the right pace to get to 91 wins over the past month.

 

But being realistic also entails knowing that all things point towards that not happening for the next two months.

 

There's no reason to look either way though. It's irrelevant. It's still July. Beg that question again come the start of September, when looking at a whole month is actually worth it. We can be 4 games out then. We can be 20 games out then. It's irrelevant. Just play your games until looking at the playoff picture actually matters. Right now, we're mid season.

I'm going to be realistic, too.

 

The Braves would be leading just about any other division in baseball. They don't have a good team; they have a great team. Their offense has the potential for more. Uggla has already started hitting again, Heyward is better than he's been, McCann's coming back at some point, and there's a good possiblity that they add another bat at the deadline.

 

They have great pitching depth, and the backend of their bullpen is "one of the best of all-time" amazing. (+ they're rumored to add another right-handed reliever, as well)

 

We are not catching them.

 

For the most part, the Marlins have been beating crap teams through this good streak of baseball...and they didn't even do that perfectly, considering the sh*t series against the Padres.

 

It's really tough to win/go on a long winning streak (which is needed) with no true ace in the rotation, a #4 who was recently a bullpen arm, and a #5 who is...well, ?????.

 

Our bullpen has already been overworked some and should only be overworked a lot more considering the current rotation, at this point.

 

I can't say I'm too worried about our offense. I felt like June was a fluke with the offense, and they're starting to perform to expectations again (especially if Bonifacio can continue to play good baseball, the offense should be fine).

 

It's going to be rather impossible. The Braves are just realistically awesome.

 

I wish we were in the NL Central right now.

Thud. But I agree with the thud. Right now, we're like the Dolphins - not awful but no better than 3rd in our division.

It always amuses me when people get so playoff hungry that they start denying reality and try to conjure up some sort path that the Marlins can follow into the postseason.

 

All that matters is that the Braves are a much better team than the Marlins are this season. It's unlikely that they will be swept by the Marlins in the upcoming series and far less likely that they will have a worse record in the remaining two months of the season.

 

I guess people start to get delusional after a stretch of crushing some of the worst teams in the NL.

And people usually assume that 90 wins is the magic number for the wild card race. I think it's going to be more like 93 wins, which is what the Braves are projected to win at this pace.

 

In order to win 93 games, the Marlins will need to win 41 of the remaining 57 games. That means winning 2 games out of 3 of every remaining series will still cause them to fall short.

 

Has the franchise ever won 20 games in a month before? Well, they will have to do it twice in a row if they want to be in the playoffs.

Playoffs are a long way off, and a sweep here would be nice. But we cannot catch the braves if they continue to succeed. Making the playoffs will take a little less then a miracle. If it was a cox team i would be sure that we would not be able to catch them. Who know's maybe they fade, more talented teams have in the past. If one bad month did what it did to our season, think what it could do to there's. It would take 1 anti-june to catch the fading braves, assuming they fade. we'll see, anything is possible.

Just win tonight, and take one game at a time. Anything can happen, but realistically our goals should be to secure 3rd place this year in a very tough division. Doing that without JJ would be an awesome feat.

Just win tonight, and take one game at a time. Anything can happen, but realistically our goals should be to secure 3rd place this year in a very tough division. Doing that without JJ would be an awesome feat.

 

 

Agreed. However, it would be awesome if they pulled a rabbit out their hat and did even better. I like your name by the way. :lol

We might not have even made the playoffs with JJ in June or for the rest of the season...

 

One thing about Baseball is you're not out of it until all 162 games are played just look at the 1995 Seattle Mariners.

 

We can do this but it's definitely more of a 1 game at a time thing.

 

Anyway I'm happy we've been playing better Jack has done a great job.

And people usually assume that 90 wins is the magic number for the wild card race. I think it's going to be more like 93 wins, which is what the Braves are projected to win at this pace.

 

In order to win 93 games, the Marlins will need to win 41 of the remaining 57 games. That means winning 2 games out of 3 of every remaining series will still cause them to fall short.

 

Has the franchise ever won 20 games in a month before? Well, they will have to do it twice in a row if they want to be in the playoffs.

 

 

The Marlins went 21-8 to close out the 2003 season, though that record wasn't within a specific calendar month (end of August through the end of the season in September). Playoff teams are capable of doing it, as the 2003 Marlins proved.

 

I am not saying they'll go on that type of run the rest of the season, but I am saying that teams that make the playoffs often go on those runs. I don't expect them to make the playoffs, but I wouldn't be totally shocked if they did. Not having JJ really hurts our chances.

What's up with all this realism. C'mon people, you sound like a bunch of Catholics.."don't get too happy"

 

One game at a time, eyes on the prize, LETS GO FISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thud. But I agree with the thud. Right now, we're like the Dolphins - not awful but no better than 3rd in our division.

 

 

We're better than the Dolphins... that's for sure.

 

But the point still stands as #3 in the division. I was never trying to make that case, otherwise.

 

Like I said, basically exactly what el penguino said. There's no reason to sit there and calculate a path. There's also no reason to count a .500 team out at the end of July.

 

In the end, you just win your games and a month down the road if it is 4.5 games out of the playoffs and you have a 3 game series with the Braves you play your hearts out. That's all. It's not probable. Not likely. But part of being realistic is to realize that there are hundreds of thousands to hundreds of millions of combinations of wins and losses to end the season between the teams involved in the playoff chase and that any single one of them can happen.