God?

 

GOD?!?

The fact that fans have enough fire in them to curse people like Bell out on Twitter is the reason why he's able to make almost $30 million in the first place.

 

It comes with the territory. And it seems rather snobbish to talk down to fans who are simply venting their [warranted] frustrations in their own unique ways.

Ha all this god talk , keeps making the South Park Jesus jump into my mind.

 

Or buddy Christ standing behind bell on the mound.

Also... as others have alluded to, this isn't Bell blaming his professional failures on God; but a man dealing with an existential crisis the way most religious people would. Heath is aware of the problem and is expressing his concern about it. If you ask me, I think it's a cry for help.

 

 

Shhh, Beetle, your destroying their blind hatred arguments with logic.

Find me the blind hatred, please.

 

Miami native the other night saying he was Getting on twitter just to cuss him out. Everyone Downing and being absolutley dickish about the guy over and over again for being a bigger dude. .twisting his words around and demeaning his thoughts on religion.

 

Maybe "blind" isn't the right word, But the guy doesn't deserve some of this sh*t. Yeah he has sucked, talk sh*t about that but he has been awesome more often than not in his career.

 

The guy signed here, is away from his family who I still believe resides in San diego most of the time, he has a child with down syndrome I believe. Possibly struggling from the pressures of a new contract, not the first to struggle after signing.

 

Just some people are being way to harsh.

I don't give a sh*t what he's done in the rest of his career, since that wasn't with the Marlins. Does that really matter to you? It only matters because you'd think he couldn't possibly be this bad...........but, he's objectively been just as bad as his numbers. Balls getting smoked, terrible location, etc.

 

Beetle's post was about the religious side of it. When you respond to his post, that and your other comments make it seem like you're angry at people for ripping on his religion. But no one outside of RP OP did that, and even RP OP just reiterated the familiar argument a la Mark Twain's "War Prayer." The worst offense in this thread was the mischaracterized title, but that seemed more a rip on Bell's unwillingness to accept blame/admit he needs to do things differently rather than an anti-religious rant.

 

Your anger about the religious part of it seems sorely misplaced.

 

And it's absolutely normal for fans to rip on a guy who's performing terribly. It's certainly not my style to cuss a guy out on twitter, but I'm sure many of us have done so in front of our TVs or computers.

 

And don't forget that he chose to sign here. He came to Miami and got his $27 million. He chose whatever familial outcomes that have ensued.

 

edit: by "RP," I mean "OP." Freudian slip or something :lol

 

Oh just shut up mystikol, you strike me a frivolous person in real life.

"Dear Heath Bell... I've molded you into a fat piece of ****" - God

He's going to be fine, his issue is that he can't throw his curve for a strike, resulting in many 2 strike fastballs which most MLB hitters can handle no matter how hard it's thrown. If he can get in a groove and find that curveball again then we'll be seeing the All-Star closer that we wanted.

I'm not a believer of any sort. And I would much rather hear Bell just say he has been sucking, he can't locate his offspeed pitches and it is causing him to suck giant testicles, rather than say that God is testing him. That being said, when some people encounter challenges, they have the right to be religious about it. Whether it's God testing him, or just the psychology of the game/contract/being away from his family/physical issue, I'm happy that he's staying positive and seeing it as a challenge he has to overcome.

 

What does piss me off is when he said he had bad luck. That's bullsh-t. (I've also heard him say he's sucks and he's garbage, so you know, quotes don't always mean anything.)

That's my problem with this. I'm not going to hold it against him that he's religious, but I hate that he's using that as an excuse for his struggles (implying that there is a divine plan in all of this).

 

I respected the fact that Morrison owned up to his massive botched catch a couple of weeks ago. Javy Vazquez owned up to his early struggles last year too.

 

I suppose what Bell does on the field is all that matters, but I think these kinds of remarks grate me.

That's my problem with this. I'm not going to hold it against him that he's religious, but I hate that he's using that as an excuse for his struggles (implying that there is a divine plan in all of this).

 

I respected the fact that Morrison owned up to his massive botched catch a couple of weeks ago. Javy Vazquez owned up to his early struggles last year too.

 

I suppose what Bell does on the field is all that matters, but I think these kinds of remarks grate me.

 

 

JJ owns up to his suckiness so far. Even when he's brilliant, he never gloats about it.

Did Heath take down his twitter account?

Did Heath take down his twitter account?

 

 

Is it not showing up anymore?

I hate Heath Bell even more now. If he prayed instead to the Spaghetti Monster and wore a pasta strainer on his head, I guarantee you all his troubles would disappear. But no, he would rather be saddled with some other God while he blasphemes our great Pasta Lord in the sky. Shame on him.

 

PS: Things have really turned around for me since I had my driver's license picture taken with a pasta strainer on my head. Maybe Bell should try it.

Did Heath take down his twitter account?

 

 

http://twitter.com/#!/heathbell21

Errr... I must have passed it up. Thanks.

It's never too late for Bell to repent and ask the Flying Spaghetti Monster for help with his pitching talents

Bell's been demoted.

I like this quote from him,

 

""Bottom line, I am not doing the job," he said. "It's not like I am hurt or anything. But I have to figure this out and get better. I owe that to everyone in here."

Put him back at the Clevelander as a former celebrity bartender.

He's going to be fine, his issue is that he can't throw his curve for a strike, resulting in many 2 strike fastballs which most MLB hitters can handle no matter how hard it's thrown. If he can get in a groove and find that curveball again then we'll be seeing the All-Star closer that we wanted.

 

 

He's lost confidence in throwing his off speed stuff. The demotion is a good thing. Let him get his location issues worked out and then the confidence will return. When Ozzie sees him throwing that curve in 2-2 count a few times, he will give him the job back. Dosen't even have to be for a strike every time. Just knowing he has the confidence to throw it again. I'm pulling for him.

 

But some fans need someone to blame and to overly exaggerate things. As an example, remember when it was ALL Boni's fault we didn't make the play offs a couple years ago? The "total waste of a uniform, always has been, always will be" Boni. The Boni that "can't hit, can't catch, and has no arm." There have been many others that "earned" the wrath of certain fans.

 

People are reading too much into that article. He's just saying what most religious people say during bad times in their lives.

I agree with BroncoBob. When somebody says God is testing me, it means that they have done everything they knowingly can to fix the problem, but still seem to be struggling. It is acknowledgement of the problem, not blame, however. God is testing me, says that I know things aren't good but I am going to keep plugging away. What else can you ask for right now? If it were that easy to just "fix" it, scouts would never miss on prospects, and every player would perform exactly his career line every year. There wouldn't be a reason to play the game. You could just figure it out on paper.

Is God also "testing" the hitters, how about the fielders? How about the umpire? What I don't get is if God is testing Bell and the hitter he's facing and the field players at the same time, how does God decide when to allow a ball to drop in shallow left or let the wind carry it over the fence for a cheap homer? Or does Bell think he's special?

 

Is it based on the piety of the players involved? What about non-believers or even believers of the wrong faith?

 

Since Bell obviously doesn't mean any of this, I'm going to assume he's just using a figure of speech he's heard bandied about and thought it sounded right. I just hope he's up to the challenge and starts pitching better. C'mon Bell, please stop sucking so badly.

I agree with BroncoBob. When somebody says God is testing me, it means that they have done everything they knowingly can to fix the problem, but still seem to be struggling. It is acknowledgement of the problem, not blame, however. God is testing me, says that I know things aren't good but I am going to keep plugging away. What else can you ask for right now? If it were that easy to just "fix" it, scouts would never miss on prospects, and every player would perform exactly his career line every year. There wouldn't be a reason to play the game. You could just figure it out on paper.

 

 

So it's just a religious euphemism for " I suck"?

He's going to be fine, his issue is that he can't throw his curve for a strike, resulting in many 2 strike fastballs which most MLB hitters can handle no matter how hard it's thrown. If he can get in a groove and find that curveball again then we'll be seeing the All-Star closer that we wanted.

 

 

Best post in this thread, by FAR.

Bell: Oh, God, why art thou testing me?

 

God: Hey son, you ever read the bible.

 

Bell: Why sure, like, every day.

 

God: You know Matthew 19:23-24?

 

Bell: Well, I'm kinda rusty on that one.

 

God: Let me quote: “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.�

 

Bell: Ah yeah, that's a good one.

 

God: How much was that contact you signed?

 

Bell: $27,000,000.

 

God: Capiche?

He is owning up to what he has done and I think making fun of him because you disagree with his spiritual beliefs is not the right thing to do. If he believes that god is testing him by making him have no command of his curve ball, then that is fine. Most major leaguers believe god has something to do with the game, he is not alone. As long as he doesn't believe he doesn't have to do anything to fix it, then he is fine. "faith without works is dead"