Yes, they can be helpful but it seems there's the possibility that Mattingly overuses or misuses them like Jennings did.

 

so long as it's not Admin bowa

 

 

loria was also a part owner of the yankees at one time.

 

Wrong owner that was John Henry, unless I'm missing something

 

 

Mattingly is not a good manager, but much is being made of the fact that he really wasn't manager in LA anyway. Yasmani Grandal started several playoff games despite being an automatic out due to a shoulder injury. Why did he start? Because he's an excellent pitch framer, and the Dodgers' SABR-inclined front office loves pitch framing. So they basically forced Mattingly's hand. That's likely why Loria wants him in Miami. He's a big name but with experience being a yes man for the front office. The perfect Marlins fit.

 

 

I'm curious, who is considered a good manager?

 

 

Someone who doesn't consistently make boneheaded situational decisions.

 

 

I know, just asking a general question to all. Like name a few guys who are currently working or could be an option for a team to hire. I'm legit curious.

 

 

Joe Maddon and Edwin Rodriguez are two of my more favorite managers in recent years. They make mistakes, sure, but I think they aren't as guilty of some of the dumb things that someone like Redmond or Mattingly would do.

 

 

I loved Edwin

 

 

I just think that many managers get their jobs for frivolous things like clubhouse leadership, being firey, mentoring young players, and most teams don't really vet how they manage situations. So I don't quite understand the disbelief over the possibility that many managers are just total shit.

 

The Marlins are one of the worst examples of this because they use these principles in many of their hires, but add one that's infinitely worse: the Yankees pedigree. It doesn't get any more mindless than that.

 

 

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2015/10/marlins-interest-in-don-mattingly-is-mutual-conversations-expected-in-coming-days.html

 

If Don has interest, its as good as done really. I hadn't heard he's interested before.

 

 

What sucks is that we had a great manager come up within our system named Edwin Rodriguez, and we just threw him away. He deserves a gig somewhere. 

 

 

I'm hearing that the Nats and Padres decided not to interview Don because they believe he's going to Miami 

 

 

Loria does not play with this kind of stuff

 

 

Loria does not play with this kind of stuff

 

considering how adamant Loria can be when he really wants a manager I wish he was more adamant for other things that we really need.

 

 

Loria takes the manager position more seriously than anything else it seems. Too bad his criteria for hiring one is completely idiotic.

 

 

Loria takes the manager position more seriously than anything else it seems. Too bad his criteria for hiring one is completely idiotic.

 

I'd say his criteria for firing them is completely idiotic....he's hired some good ones.

 

 

None of the good ones have ever been fired. Only the bad ones were.

 

 

None of the good ones have ever been fired. Only the bad ones were.

 

Translation: I loved Edwin. Everyone else sucked.

 

 

None of the good ones have ever been fired. Only the bad ones were.

 

Girardi and Fredi (although not my favorite) have had good managerial careers.  McKeon was obviously a good hire.  

 

 

I liked McKeon too.

 

Everyone else sucked.

 

 

I liked McKeon too.

 

Everyone else sucked.

 

What did you have against John Boles?

 

 

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Looks like an interview should be coming soon.

 

 

Looks like an interview should be coming soon.

 

Already interviewed Bo Porter to meet all the minority requirements.

 

Hiring by Monday.

 

 

Well, yeah Loria wants Mattingly but Loria also wanted Ozzie and to an extent Redmond and they were both ousted.