December 7, 201510 yr Source said this morning pegged odds of a Jose Fernandez trade at 1%. Now: "I'd push that into the 40s(%)." MIA can get a lot in return. Olney Mish...
December 7, 201510 yr don't know why we can give G 13/325,but can't give Jose something like 6/150？ because Stanton will opt out. Why would he stay ?
December 7, 201510 yr well one thing he does care about is that attendance spikes like 8 to 10k every jose start Very true. This would be a very unpopular move even if we got Seager and Urias.
December 7, 201510 yr Seeger, Urias, Peterson, and their next best pitching prospect and you can't turn that down.
December 8, 201510 yr Erick you're right but if the Marlins think they can compete next year what should they do? I think we absolutely need 2 major league starters. If the Marlins can trade Jose for 2 starters (along with a haul of others) and can acquire a middle rotation guy through other means, does this make us better for 2016? It might make you better, but even with Stanton & José all year, I doubt this club would have won 84-87 which is close enough to thinking about being a contender. Let's be reminded we finished 20 games under .500
December 8, 201510 yr Seeger, Urias, Peterson, and their next best pitching prospect and you can't turn that down. Pederson But exactly
December 8, 201510 yr Is it pretty much understood that the fate of Jose just might rest on whether Cueto signs with the Dodgers?
December 8, 201510 yr User Actions Following clarkspencer@clarkspencer Michael Hill on Jose Fernandez: "He's not available." #marlins
December 8, 201510 yr User Actions Following clarkspencer@clarkspencer Michael Hill on Jose Fernandez: "He's not available." #marlins So he is available then.
December 8, 201510 yr None of this would be a problem if Loria would just increase payroll just a reasonable amount. Its like after 2012 he decided not spending a single penny more was the way to go. No one is asking him to spend like the Dodgers and Yankees but come on, you sign your star to a backloaded contract and you have your own ballpark in which you promised that both would lead to higher payrolls but still nothing? Shit man. Your mistake was believing him...tsk tsk tsk.
December 8, 201510 yr you guys preach about how we won't compete in 2016 yet we are talking about the best value for Jose. Wouldn't all of these guys be out of the Marlins price range by 2019 anyway? You might as well keep Jose then. Might as well not do any transactions since we won't compete any way right? Well hopefully the Grinch that stole baseball will have sold the team by then
December 8, 201510 yr Well hopefully the Grinch that stole baseball will have sold the team by then Or a new tv deal.
December 8, 201510 yr Surprised no one on here has proposed Jose for Kike Hernandez straight up .... Am I right Admin?
December 8, 201510 yr Surprised no one on here has proposed Jose for Kike Hernandez straight up .... Am I right Admin? That's the deal Miami is holding out for. Startinglow with Joc, Kershaw, and Seager. The Dodgers won't see it coming
December 8, 201510 yr Jayson StarkVerified account@jaysonst Jayson Stark Retweeted Buster Olney Hearing tonight that Marlins think they're making progress with unspecified team. But a deal still appears unlikely
December 8, 201510 yr Jayson StarkVerified account@jaysonst Jayson Stark Retweeted Buster Olney Hearing tonight that Marlins think they're making progress with unspecified team. But a deal still appears unlikely About jose???
December 8, 201510 yr If they think they're making progress that sounds like they want to make progress. That's way different than "we're listening out of due diligence but he's not available."
December 8, 201510 yr "Guys, Jose is not for sale. Seriously. Please stop sending offers of your top prospects. I mean, it's nice and all and really enticing (especially that one...) but he's not on the market. He's mostly not on the market. He's pretty much off the market. Throw in cash considerations and he's yours"
December 8, 201510 yr This is bad. I don't even care about getting back everyone's best prospects. This just sends a bad message about everything. It just says we will never stop resetting ourselves. If this happens it says fuck the ballpark and the Stanton contract and the restructuring of the front office and the hiring of Mattingly. Every single thing we've ever done that signaled forward progression was for shit. If this goes down it'd be real hard to defend this front office regardless of the return.
December 8, 201510 yr This is bad. I don't even care about getting back everyone's best prospects. This just sends a bad message about everything. It just says we will never stop resetting ourselves. If this happens it says fuck the ballpark and the Stanton contract and the restructuring of the front office and the hiring of Mattingly. Every single thing we've ever done that signaled forward progression was for shit. If this goes down it'd be real hard to defend this front office regardless of the return. It's not the front office's fault. They are forced to shop Jose with Loria's shallow pockets.
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