Doug Rader, Jose Morales, Jeff Pentland, Milt May, Jack Maloof, Bill Robinson, Jim Presley, John Mallee, Eduardo Perez, Tino Martinez, John Pierson, Frank Menechino, Lenny Harris

 

All-Time Marlins Hitting Coaches. Some good, some bad, one psychotic, some 'who was that?'... none with 762* home runs.

 

 

I hope this means they're bringing the Mermaids back

 

 

 

Ken Rosenthal with a good point for those who think this is only a Loria publicity stunt... he says Bonds is too smart and "savvy" to be used as only a publicity stunt. If he agrees it's because he's convinced its a legitimate commitment and worth moving out of the Bay Area for.

 

Even with the stigma Bonds has with some people, this is getting a lot of positive press as a good move and one than can work well for both Bonds and the team.

 

Loria is going to tell Bonds to buy a house.

 

 

Loria is going to tell Bonds to buy a house.

 

and a Pitbull

 

 

Would be a good move I think. Steroids or not, the guy was a genius hitter with unbelievable discipline. Something Mr. Stanton could benefit a lot from. 

 

 

and a Pitbull

 

 

 

Would be a good move I think. Steroids or not, the guy was a genius hitter with unbelievable discipline. Something Mr. Stanton could benefit a lot from. 

 

This.

 

 

Completely agree. 

 

 

I think this can only be a positive, although it's hard to know whether or not Bonds will be able to help anyone, since it's hard to teach greatness. Just look at how Ted Williams was not a great coach.

 

 

I think this can only be a positive, although it's hard to know whether or not Bonds will be able to help anyone, since it's hard to teach greatness. Just look at how Ted Williams was not a great coach.

 

One can argue that this is why he wanted his head decapitated.

 

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/fools--gold--why-barry-bonds-in-miami-will-be-a-disaster-235832379-mlb.html

 

Guess who wrote it? LOL

 

Never did Barry Bonds suffer fools gladly, whether his opponents or the media or the governmental foofs that spent tens of millions of dollars chasing charges they never could get to stick. He was Barry Lamar Bonds, home run king, and everyone else was a subject. Challenge him, whether with a fastball or pointed question or indictment, and he knew only one way to swing.

 

 

 

 

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Good luck in Miami, Barry Bonds. (AP Photo)

 

 

 

Unless retirement has mellowed Bonds – unless, frankly, it has made him patient as a monk – he, like everyone else who walks into the petri dish of palace intrigue that is the Miami Marlinsorganization, will be done in by its well-worn dysfunction. For there is no greater set of fools in baseball than Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria and president David Samson, and no matter how many great baseball men pervade their offices – and there are plenty – the amphisbaena atop the org chart will counteract any positives with its serial boobery.

 

Bonds is set to join the Marlins as a hitting coach, according to a USA Today report, and would return to the game that seven years ago forsook him because of lingering embarrassment over his steroid usage. While the stigma against PEDs hasn’t lessened significantly, baseball cannot forever blackball a mind as keen as Bonds’. If he fully understood the culture that beat down many good men before him and will continue to neuter others so long as Loria and Samson are in charge, perhaps Bonds could’ve saved himself the trouble of wondering how he took a major league job and ended up in a minor league operation.

 

“It’s never gonna get better,” one person with longtime ties to the organization recently told Yahoo Sports. “It’s never gonna get fixed, as long as they’re running things.”

 

This goes well beyond the shadiness of Loria and Samson’s lies to get public funding for their stadium or how they funneled cash from the Marlins to themselves or their refusal to spend revenue-sharing dollars on major league payroll or even the con job that turned into a fire sale. This is simple and straightforward: Their refusal to allow knowledgeable baseball people to run their baseball team inhibits whatever advantages those baseball people may otherwise bring.

 

Most of the issues, major league sources told Yahoo Sports, stem from the meddlesome nature of Loria and Samson, whose presence around the major league clubhouse isn’t just some irksome quirk. At one point during the 2015 season, Marlins manager Dan Jennings held a team meeting and asked the players how to improve the atmosphere around the team, according to multiple people present. The players’ top request: Keep Samson and other front-office types out of the clubhouse.

 

“It was like Festivus,” one source said. Marlins players were incensed that the luxurious 767 about which Samson bragged during spring training – a custom-designed airplane he told reporters would help the Marlins’ on-field performance – never materialized. They were tired of him approaching players after the game – especially after losses – to talk about their play. In the Marlins’ clubhouse, nobody is immune to the whims of Loria and Samson – not $325 million man Giancarlo Stanton, not the just-called-up minor leaguer making $500,000 and certainly not anybody on the coaching staff.

 

That’s what makes the arrival of Bonds and new manager Don Mattingly so curious. Mattingly is the Marlins’ 10th manager since Loria bought the team in 2003. He fired Joe Girardi and Ozzie Guillen after one season. Mike Redmond barely made it past his second season, and he’s the third-longest-tenured manager in Loria’s dozen years. Never, in Loria and Samson’s world, are the Marlins’ endemic problems due to the two constants: themselves. It’s always someone else’s fault, which led one source close to the team to quip about Mattingly: “He’s a lame duck with a four-year contract.”

 

For years, Mattingly put up with the inherent stresses of the Los Angeles Dodgers’ managerial job, so he’s used to the push and pull of daily life running a team. Bonds lived in a self-inflated bubble during his years with the Giants, and the idea of Loria or Samson coming to him – the best offensive player in baseball since Babe Ruth – and suggesting anything begs for someone to hit record on a cell phone and capture the incident for posterity.

 

 

 

 

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Miami Marlins' owner Jeffrey Loria (AP Photo)

 

 

 

Here’s the thing: It’s going to happen. Loria, in particular, cannot help himself. “He thinks he knows more than any manager,” one former Marlins employee said. “He thinks he knows more than any GM. He runs his team like a fantasy baseball team.”

 

Who’s to blame over the debacle that was the Marlins’ managerial position this past season is up for debate – some say Loria, some say Samson – but once they canned Redmond and moved Jennings from GM to the bench, the deep wounds in the organization revealed themselves even more. By the end of the season, enough players had cottoned to Jennings that they figured his return was a good thing and that maybe 2016 would reveal the promise 2015 held before it spiraled into a 91-loss mess.

 

At the end of October, the Marlins fired Jennings. Once an advocate of the front office, Jennings had become too close with the players, and to Marlins upper management this is a sin. Never mind that this is the goal in 29 other franchises, to have a manager in tune with players and cognizant of the front office’s goals. In Miami, this is a threat, because the Marlins’ history shows that debasing players may as well be an organizational mandate.

 

Scores of players have left the Marlins and felt like they’ve been pardoned, and whether it’s welching on promises not to trade them or not coming through with promises to improve their creature comforts, the distrust lives on even with Mattingly’s arrival and the expectation of Bonds’. The Marlins are full of smart people, from Michael Hill to Mike Berger to Jeff McAvoy in the front office, Mattingly to Jim Benedict to Perry Hill with on-field matters. Loria and Samson have surrounded themselves with good men in the past, too, and their rot has metastasized nonetheless.

 

It’s never them, no, sir, never. One of the scapegoats this offseason was Tommy Hutton, the beloved color commentator, who after nearly two decades was fired because of perceived negativity. The hypocrisy would be laughable if it weren’t so sad, a franchise continuously torpedoed by petty men who after all these years still don’t understand how to run a baseball team.

 

Nobody – not even Barry Bonds – is immune to this. No matter who they hire, no matter how they try to cover the holes in the floor that go on forever, the Marlins will be the Marlins because the fools are still fools, too foolish to look in the mirror and realize the ugliness that weighs down baseball in Miami is staring back at them.

 

 

 

I don't even need to check if that's a Yahoo piece. Definitely Passan!

 

 

That's the first negative article about the whole Bonds idea.

 

 

Definitely a negative article but you're naive if you don't believe 95% of that article is true. 

 

 

The Loria and Samson meddling stuff is probably true... but that doesn't automatically mean that Bonds will be a failure here.

 

Taking every single thing the Marlins do and turning it into a negative piece is such a tired act even if there is a lot of history to this dumpster fire.

 

It's like I'm surprised there wasn't an article saying the Marlins handing out turkeys and food to the community for thanksgiving was a bad thing because "Loria."

 

 

I think that the point here is that the Marlins/Loria anoint some people as being somewhat immune to their bullshit. Perhaps not entirely, but I sense that they have a select few people whom they highly respect and go out of their way to be nice to. I think Perry Hill is one of those people.

 

It's also surprising that Passan does not mention Ichiro at all. Not only is the dude a class act, but he's also one of the best and most respected players of his generation--the same generation that Bonds comes from. One would never expect Ichiro to be a part of the dumpster fire, but it seems like Loria goes so far out of his way to treat Ichiro well, he remains unscorched.

 

I think the same might be of someone like Barry Bonds. Loria recognizes some people as being the best at what they do (Hill, Ichiro, Bonds) and treat them as so. Guys like Redmond, Jennings, Tommy Hutton, etc. are more expendable.

 

 

I agree with that article 100%. I think bonds is a coach like every other coach is, and we all know that unless you're Perry Hill, you won't last long. Bonds will be gone in two years tops.

 

Godzilla facepalms.

 

 

Loria is a herpe. Every now and then the Marlins feel perfectly healthy and vigorous but Loria lurks deep inside, waiting for the precise moment that he can erupt into a massive case of crotch rot.  

 

 

I think that the point here is that the Marlins/Loria anoint some people as being somewhat immune to their bullshit. Perhaps not entirely, but I sense that they have a select few people whom they highly respect and go out of their way to be nice to. I think Perry Hill is one of those people.

 

It's also surprising that Passan does not mention Ichiro at all. Not only is the dude a class act, but he's also one of the best and most respected players of his generation--the same generation that Bonds comes from. One would never expect Ichiro to be a part of the dumpster fire, but it seems like Loria goes so far out of his way to treat Ichiro well, he remains unscorched.

 

I think the same might be of someone like Barry Bonds. Loria recognizes some people as being the best at what they do (Hill, Ichiro, Bonds) and treat them as so. Guys like Redmond, Jennings, Tommy Hutton, etc. are more expendable.

 

He probably had that same attitude towards Tino too. That's why he hates Detreich so much.

 

 

USA TODAY IS REPORTING ITS OFFICIAL? Any truth to this?