SilverBullet Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Am I doing this right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 DFA EVERYONE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 We need 20 more threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bret Hart Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Just kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 DFA THE MARLINS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 DFA THE MARLINS What if someone claims them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bret Hart Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 What if someone claims them? Someone who own a paper company in Virgin Islands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Someone who own a paper company in Virgin Islands. Dunder Mifflin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 We need 20 more threads. Yeah but I already created a thread to keep Realmuto so it’d be confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 Dunder Mifflin? I thought the same! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 Had a strange thought late last night about yesterday's disaster... In a weird way that was probably good for them. Had they won they'd think they were better than they were and might be "expecting" more wins. Maybe in the long run it was better that they lost yesterday. It's not like they're contending this season so why not take a disastrous loss that they can learn from? Losses like this sometimes shake a team up for the better. If the coaching staff and the clubhouse veterans handled this one right they may never (so to speak) have another loss like that again. It won't be this quick of a turnaround but everyone always talks of the night the 2003 team lost 25-8 to the Red Sox and how that lit a fire under that team. This 2018 has been competitive in more games than anyone expected, to their credit, but maybe this team needs to be dragged face first through the mud a little more. Build some character and light them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHPMarlin Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Had a strange thought late last night about yesterday's disaster... In a weird way that was probably good for them. Had they won they'd think they were better than they were and might be "expecting" more wins. Maybe in the long run it was better that they lost yesterday. It's not like they're contending this season so why not take a disastrous loss that they can learn from? Losses like this sometimes shake a team up for the better. If the coaching staff and the clubhouse veterans handled this one right they may never (so to speak) have another loss like that again. It won't be this quick of a turnaround but everyone always talks of the night the 2003 team lost 25-8 to the Red Sox and how that lit a fire under that team. This 2018 has been competitive in more games than anyone expected, to their credit, but maybe this team needs to be dragged face first through the mud a little more. Build some character and light them up. Wow. I've seen you state time and again that you don't care about winning/losing this year. Now you're taking the position that losing is actually good for the team. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I'd prefer that we win. And if we can't win, I'd prefer that we lose in a fashion that is not an absolute disaster and embarrassment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 Wow. I've seen you state time and again that you don't care about winning/losing this year. Now you're taking the position that losing is actually good for the team. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I'd prefer that we win. And if we can't win, I'd prefer that we lose in a fashion that is not an absolute disaster and embarrassment. That's not how I meant it. I don't WANT them to lose and I didn't say I want them to lose... but there are times when teams learn from losses especially losses like yesterday and hopefully they learned something yesterday and also learn from future losses. That's not the same as wanting them to lose. Every time I turn on a Marlins game I root for them to win even in a season like this one where losing is almost a forgone conclusion. Compare it to parenting... sometimes parents gotta let kids fall on their faces and learn from their mistakes. That doesn't mean parents stand by the window and hope their kids fall on the concrete every day. Or teaching kids to ride a bike. You get them out there and every kid needs to fall off their bike several times to learn how to do it. Again, it's not like parents put the kids on the bicycle and cross their fingers wanting the kid to fall. Don't think I can explain it any better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THRILLHO Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Yesterday was terrible and it takes a special kind of implosion to do what they did. It also hurts even more when it is in a game where you get unusual contributions in the way of a Brinson grand slam and a multi-homer game from Rojas. Seeing that go as an L feels pretty horrible, even for the 2018 Marlins. But to @SilverBullet1929 point there is always a takeaway from disappointing games. Look at Tayron Guerrero for example. According to Baseball-Reference’s Leverage Index, Guerrero’s appearance in the 9th inning was the highest pressure situation he’s faced all year. It was quite a bit more “pressure” than the next highest on the index for the season. No it didn’t work out, but he’s one of our more electric options out of the pen and it is in the team’s best interest long term to begin using him in the most critical situations. [ATTACH]1973._xfImport[/ATTACH] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Honestly I think the bullpen decisions should have been reversed yesterday. Start Guerrero in that inning then bring in Ziegler if it gets hairy. I don't understand why he brought in Ziegler with a 5 run lead, it's not like he needed work. He just pitched Friday and there's a game today. Doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTrain Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Had a strange thought late last night about yesterday's disaster... In a weird way that was probably good for them. Had they won they'd think they were better than they were and might be "expecting" more wins. Maybe in the long run it was better that they lost yesterday. It's not like they're contending this season so why not take a disastrous loss that they can learn from? Losses like this sometimes shake a team up for the better. If the coaching staff and the clubhouse veterans handled this one right they may never (so to speak) have another loss like that again. It won't be this quick of a turnaround but everyone always talks of the night the 2003 team lost 25-8 to the Red Sox and how that lit a fire under that team. This 2018 has been competitive in more games than anyone expected, to their credit, but maybe this team needs to be dragged face first through the mud a little more. Build some character and light them up. C’mon now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 C’mon now. So I'm the only one here who's ever heard of learning from your mistakes and teams and players learning lessons in defeat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTrain Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 So I'm the only one here who's ever heard of learning from your mistakes and teams and players learning lessons in defeat? Please, man. Stop. There are are no positive takeaways from giving up 5 runs with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th. They didn’t need to lose yet ANOTHER game in walk off fashion at SunTrust for it to REALLY sink in. Does it mean the Marlins will never recover? No. They may win today for all we know. Just don’t be the guy who finds positives in a complete pitching/managerial shit show breakdown. You’re better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish53 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 The only person who absolutely can benefit from this is Guerrero and this being his DFA thread, it shows that the 9th inning is different. He wants to get out of being lumped with Tazawa and Zeigler on this chat room. It would have been better to succeed but that is history. Now, what the F is wrong with Steckenrider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 Please, man. Stop. There are are no positive takeaways from giving up 5 runs with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th. They didn’t need to lose yet ANOTHER game in walk off fashion at SunTrust for it to REALLY sink in. Does it mean the Marlins will never recover? No. They may win today for all we know. Just don’t be the guy who finds positives in a complete pitching/managerial shit show breakdown. You’re better than that. And I thought you were better than posts like this one. Keep drowning in negativity if you'd rather. Man this place is fun lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Man this place is fun lately. Oh yeah, tons of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTrain Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 We gave up 6 runs in the bottom of the 9th Hopefully no one thought it would be wine, roses and smiles all day today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 We gave up 6 runs in the bottom of the 9th Hopefully no one thought it would be wine, roses and smiles all day today Yeah now the Marlins may win 65 games instead of 66, a good reason for all the doom and gloom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_gmac Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Had a strange thought late last night about yesterday's disaster... In a weird way that was probably good for them. Had they won they'd think they were better than they were and might be "expecting" more wins. Maybe in the long run it was better that they lost yesterday. It's not like they're contending this season so why not take a disastrous loss that they can learn from? Losses like this sometimes shake a team up for the better. If the coaching staff and the clubhouse veterans handled this one right they may never (so to speak) have another loss like that again. It won't be this quick of a turnaround but everyone always talks of the night the 2003 team lost 25-8 to the Red Sox and how that lit a fire under that team. This 2018 has been competitive in more games than anyone expected, to their credit, but maybe this team needs to be dragged face first through the mud a little more. Build some character and light them up. the important question is if the mud is organic ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Please, man. Stop. There are are no positive takeaways from giving up 5 runs with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th. They didn’t need to lose yet ANOTHER game in walk off fashion at SunTrust for it to REALLY sink in. Does it mean the Marlins will never recover? No. They may win today for all we know. Just don’t be the guy who finds positives in a complete pitching/managerial shit show breakdown. You’re better than that. He's not wrong, though. Things CAN be learned from this loss. Maybe not for Ziegler, could be a little late for him, but perhaps for Mattingly, for Guerrero. I don't think he was necessarily being positive, just bringing up the potential learning experience from it, and he's not wrong. On top of it all, the guy is just trying to bring conversation to the boards, which is always appreciated. Get people thinking and hopefully a friendly discussion comes of it all, but it seems like that's not really happening too much since people would rather be negative. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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