From Frisaro today...

 

Since Spring Training, the Marlins have had discussions with clubs about their controllable relievers, like Adam Conley and Drew Steckenrider. Miami has explored attaching Chen to any possible deal for either of them, and others. Look for that type of situation to resurface as we get closer to the July 31 Trade Deadline. Even if another club picked up as much as, say, $10 million of Chen’s remaining salary, that means Miami would have that money to spend elsewhere.

 

What would you guys think about packaging Chen with Conley or Steckenrider in a trade?

 

 

I’m fine with this IF they spend that money elsewhere. If they just pocket it, fuck that 

 

 

If it gets that money off the books, go for it! Chen is an albatross and Steck and Conley both have stuff but are completely unreliable. Take that money and use it to lock up young core pieces. 

 

 

I’m fine with this IF they spend that money elsewhere. If they just pocket it, fuck that 

 

That money won't get spent elsewhere. We're not close enough to contention to start spending. And anybody in our core that we're interested in locking up long-term won't cost the kind of money that we need to clear up Chen for.

 

Chen is just a bad contract that needs to play out as a Marlin (as badly as that hurts). Any young relievers that get traded need to be traded without Chen diluting their value. We need as much value in return as possible.

 

 

There’s no reason to throw away a good young player to dump chen’s deal if the money won’t be reinvested. If they do it just to pad Sherman’s pockets, I will be the first to ridicule them. 

 

 

Add Ureña to the package please!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's keep Prado.

 

 

As others have said, any deal that doesn’t prioritize talent over salary relief is a failure before it begins. 

 

With that being said, Chen is scheduled to make 42 million between 2019 & 2020 (oof). 

 

Luckily, he likely won’t qualify for the 2022 option due to being moved to the bullpen (required to throw 180IP in 2019 or 360IP in 2019 + 2020). 

 

 

It'd be a very Loria move to attach one of them to Chen just to dump the money.

 

 

It'd be a very Loria move to attach one of them to Chen just to dump the money.

 

 

 

Yes, but what real options do they have? As long as they spend it, it's all good.

 

 

 

Yes, but what real options do they have? As long as they spend it, it's all good.

 

Uh.  Keep the asset/trade that guy by himself, retaining his full value (and getting far more in return), and chalk up the Chen money as a sunk cost that you can't/won't get rid of?

 

 

Uh.  Keep the asset/trade that guy by himself, retaining his full value (and getting far more in return), and chalk up the Chen money as a sunk cost that you can't/won't get rid of?

 

That won't be a happy move for them.

 

 

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That won't be a happy move for them.

 

I don't say they'd be happy doing it, but that's the right move.

 

 

I don't say they'd be happy doing it, but that's the right move.

 

What I'm trying to say is that they won't do it.

 

 

To be fair, lining Sherman's pockets with Chen's contract money would be a better use of that money than paying to Chen to pitch in actual games.

 

 

To be fair, lining Sherman's pockets with Chen's contract money would be a better use of that money than paying to Chen to pitch in actual games.

 

Yeah but it would also mean losing Conley or steck for nothing. 

 

 

Yeah but it would also mean losing Conley or steck for nothing. 

 

Please refrain from using logic that can ruin my jokes. 

 

 

Please refrain from using logic that can ruin my jokes. 

 

Noted

 

 

for some reason i see Conley going elsewhere and turning into Andrew Miller 2.0

 

how badass would that be on a jersey? Miller 2.0

 

i'd buy one

 

 

I’m fine with this IF they spend that money elsewhere. If they just pocket it, fuck that 

 

do you kiss your dogs with that mouth ?

 

 

Just do anything you want for Chen, but just don't touch the other two. 

 

 

I'd be for it if they'd use that extra money to make Hollandsworth "disappear"

 

 

I'd be for it if they'd use that extra money to make Hollandsworth "disappear"

 

LMAO! Here here! I am with that as well.

 

This ownership has shown the ability so far to spend money in the areas needed. I think it would be a good move to at least attach Conley in the deal. Steckenrider would have more of the value especially if he starts picking up saves this year. Heck, even pay $15 million of that contract should be good. That still gives you $5-7 million in savings over the remainder of the contract.

 

 

I'd be for it if they'd use that extra money to make Hollandsworth "disappear"

 

I know a guy...

 

 

Joe has been lurking looking for random thoughts.  He gets salty with the fish stripes account

 

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