September 21, 20197 yr If offered the right amount of money, why wouldn’t Rendon sign with Miami? Same reason Albert Pujols turned down more money to be a Marlin -- so he could play got what appeared to be a competitive team. Players at that top tier don't probably see a functional difference between $120M and $100M, but the life experience of going to the playoffs is priceless. So some are willing to take a discount to make that possible.
September 22, 20197 yr If Rendon gets, say a 5-7 year deal from us, he’s smart enough to know the Marlins will be VERY competitive in the last 3-5 years of his deal. Front load Rendon’s contract, Jeets. Give him an offer he can’t refuse.
September 22, 20197 yr Front load Rendon’s contract, Jeets. Give him an offer he can’t refuse. I don't think he'll want to sign here if the FO cut off his horse's head.
September 23, 20197 yr Wow imagine not having Chen's contract on the books and only having $23 million in commitments. lol I think the Marlins will do their due diligence and explore options. Winter Meetings should be exciting this upcoming off season so many things either go down during that time or shortly afterwards. I think Abreu would be a nice signing. Signing a decent outfield is a year stop gap certainly wouldn't hurt either. Even though Anderson is incredible whether you put him at RF or 3B I rather they just keep him at 3B. Really sucks that Brinson once again didn't produce. I criticized Mish's Abreu suggestion the other day, but didn't realize how good his numbers have been. I'd be ok with signing him for a year or two. This would allow Cooper to move into the outfield where we need help. That said, Mish's comment was regarding a long term piece, which Abreu wouldn't be, he'd be a stopgap.
September 24, 20196 yr This would allow Cooper to move into the outfield where we need help. Signing Rendon does the same thing by moving Anderson into the outfield, where I'd prefer him to be. Plus it'd be a long term dela.
September 24, 20196 yr Author I criticized Mish's Abreu suggestion the other day, but didn't realize how good his numbers have been. I'd be ok with signing him for a year or two. This would allow Cooper to move into the outfield where we need help. That said, Mish's comment was regarding a long term piece, which Abreu wouldn't be, he'd be a stopgap. Abreu would be 33 in the next year but still in his prime, I doubt he would take a short term contract.
September 24, 20196 yr Abreu would be 33 in the next year but still in his prime, I doubt he would take a short term contract. Not really. I mean he's still a good player but his age does mean that he might have to take a relatively short term contract. Nobody is giving Abreu a massive long term deal at this point. It might be 2-3 years, maybe 4 at most.
September 24, 20196 yr Signing Rendon does the same thing by moving Anderson into the outfield, where I'd prefer him to be. Plus it'd be a long term dela. Yeah, I'm cool with that too. Abreu would be 33 in the next year but still in his prime, I doubt he would take a short term contract. But I doubt he's getting along term deal at that age with how free agency has gone lately.
September 25, 20196 yr He’s going to be expensive. So? Are the Marlins a major league team with payroll flexibility or nah?
September 25, 20196 yr So? Are the Marlins a major league team with payroll flexibility or nah? And if it's front loaded, it accomplishes several things - it keeps payroll at a reasonable number, but also makes him more affordable to us later on, when the big signings need to happen. I think we'll see another year of Neil Walker type signings, before making a big splash next offseason. It obviously didn't work out in his case, but get vets with some upside, and try to flip them at the deadline. I also would like to go ahead and start signing a core longterm & cheap - Anderson, Alfaro, and a few of the pitchers.
September 25, 20196 yr So? Are the Marlins a major league team with payroll flexibility or nah? That’s got nothing to do with it. The front office blew up the old team because the wage structure was screwed up. The requisite contract to sign Rendon doesn’t fit in the teams timeline. Yes they can afford it. But it would blow up the wages their constructing. Plus what makes you think too tier veteran free agents want to come here yet? He’s not coming here for the same reason JT Realmuto didn’t entertain contract extension offers from the marlins. The marlins will get back into the expensive free agent game but it’s not going to be with Rendon personal opinion obviously
September 25, 20196 yr Plus what makes you think too tier veteran free agents want to come here yet? -First and foremost: MONEY. There are countless examples of top tier players signing with non-top tier organizations. -no state income tax -and the Marlins have the added bonus (that not all bottom tier organizations have), a clear vision for a successful rebuild. Yes, it’s one year too early to sign Rendon but he’s available and fits the organization perfectly.
September 25, 20196 yr Yes, it’s one year too early to sign Rendon but he’s available and fits the organization perfectly. Yeah I agree with this. If there is a player that is available now that is something the team could really use, you try and sign him. You don't wait an extra year when he no longer exists. It isn't a one year contract anyway.
September 25, 20196 yr Author Yeah I agree with this. If there is a player that is available now that is something the team could really use, you try and sign him. You don't wait an extra year when he no longer exists. It isn't a one year contract anyway. Yeah, it's just what I want to say, I want to say something like this but Jackson said it early than me.
September 25, 20196 yr And they can sell Rendon on the idea that him signing here advances the rebuild faster... "we lost 100 games but with your bat added to the lineup we get better right away."
September 25, 20196 yr And they can sell Rendon on the idea that him signing here advances the rebuild faster... "we lost 100 games but with your bat added to the lineup we get better right away." is he pitching too ?
September 25, 20196 yr @DTrain you’re clearly advocating for this move. Do you think the Marlins will make an offer? Do you think the player accepts the offer?
September 25, 20196 yr @DTrain you’re clearly advocating for this move. Do you think the Marlins will make an offer? Do you think the player accepts the offer? He's actually Rendons agent.
September 25, 20196 yr He's actually Rendons agent. This made me check who his agent is. It is Scott Boras. Uh oh.
September 25, 20196 yr @DTrain you’re clearly advocating for this move. Do you think the Marlins will make an offer? Do you think the player accepts the offer? I’m very confident that the player would accept a at market value (or above market value , especially if front loaded) contract. I’m much less confident that Sherman/Jeter will offer the player said contract.
September 25, 20196 yr I’m very confident that the player would accept a at market value (or above market value , especially if front loaded) contract. I’m much less confident that Sherman/Jeter will offer the player said contract. We are partly in agreement. I love Rendon. Who wouldn’t? I also don’t think the Marlins have him in their plans this winter. Where we differ are that I don’t think Rendon would ever come here because a player of his caliber is going to get multiple offers and he’s going to take one from a contender. I’m also thinking we aren’t at that stage yet to offer him but after going back and forth on this I’m beginning to maybe change my mind on that one.
September 25, 20196 yr Author And they can sell Rendon on the idea that him signing here advances the rebuild faster... "we lost 100 games but with your bat added to the lineup we get better right away." Yeah, even Rendon himself couldn't deny it …
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