SongInTheAir Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Disappointing though not surprising with the other moves around MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I'm surprised they declined it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bret Hart Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Everyone has his or her own ideas. It seems lots of players would be available after the shortened season. I think Jeter would weigh an option that adding underrated, jobless or non-tendered guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Dumb move. Even with the financial troubles, Kintzler is pretty much a bargain at that price. Hopefully they've already started negotiating and this is a formality. But if they've given him the opportunity to talk to other teams they may have totally screwed this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TaiwanMarlins Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Oh Scoop. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Would MLBPA do something about it ? it seems teams around the MLB were just unite to slash the salary of the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I think it's just something predictable, the pandemic affect every industry in the world and the MLB is not immune. Teams want to win but also want to reduce the financial loss, the team options declined would be the first step and it's foreseeable the FA market would be much cooler and many big name FAs would rather to take one year deal because of the uncertainty of the 2021 season ( have the season or not ? have 162 games or not ? have the fans in the stands or not ?). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.618 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) This is a dumb move. You would think we would pay the difference just on appreciation alone for a really solid season. The bullpen doesn't even have an identity. At least solidify the closer and work your way down. Kintzler probably isn't a prototype closer, but that position needs as many options available with an already makeshift bullpen Maybe we have a different FA in mind but Kintzler is worth 4M. Edited October 31, 2020 by jeffreysfishfry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 A lot of potentially better relievers also got let go with option years. We're going to have a chance to really re-shape this bullpen and it's going to be stronger as a whole. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 It seems just be something that all teams have a tacit understanding. I decline my team options and you decline your team options, I don't touch your players and you don't touch my players then we all sign back our players in lower value contracts … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsmaniac Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 25 minutes ago, taiwanmarlin said: It seems just be something that all teams have a tacit understanding. I decline my team options and you decline your team options, I don't touch your players and you don't touch my players then we all sign back our players in lower value contracts … I believe that would violate some kind of anti-trust laws if they colluded to pay the players less like that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 48 minutes ago, marlinsmaniac said: I believe that would violate some kind of anti-trust laws if they colluded to pay the players less like that All teams seems just to decline the team options to decline the team options and not care the performance of the players, I believe the MLB and the MLBPA would notice it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsmaniac Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 9 hours ago, taiwanmarlin said: All teams seems just to decline the team options to decline the team options and not care the performance of the players, I believe the MLB and the MLBPA would notice it. Yeah I’m sure they’ll complain about it at some point, they complain about everything lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 MLB fully understands that the pandemic has screwed up everyone's finances so they won't care about this plus Manfred has no balls anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWiener Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 I don't think Kintzler is their closer going forward with everything that has hit the market this week. So, if they wanted to keep him at $4m as a setup man, that'd be another thing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Confirmation from Kintzler's agent that he was told the option wasn't picked up because of financial uncertainty and needing to be careful with their dollars. Basically the same story from every team with all these options not being picked up. Kintzler's agent also said that Brandon loved his time here and really wanted to be back but was disappointed in the decision and will consider all his options moving forward. So like I said, teams are doing this to cut some corners financially (which is understandable) but there's also a great risk in suddenly allowing all these players the chance to test the market. I still think Kintzler was cheap enough and consistent enough that he was worth keeping at the very least for some stability in a bullpen that has way too many question marks at the moment and now you run the risk of opening up another hole in the pen if he gets a better offer elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 On 10/31/2020 at 11:29 AM, SilverBullet said: MLB fully understands that the pandemic has screwed up everyone's finances so they won't care about this plus Manfred has no balls anyways. Fuck Manfred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 27 minutes ago, Entendu said: Fuck Manfred Ew, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 6 hours ago, SilverBullet said: financial uncertainty and needing to be careful with their dollars. This team would have a $ 20 million payroll in the next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 13 hours ago, Entendu said: Fuck Manfred Why reward him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.618 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I really don't believe that there will be a drastic difference in the FA market financially based on the fact that teams want to compete. All it takes is a couple teams to set the market again and other teams will have to follow suit. If teams want to win then it's inevitable and therefore universal, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, jeffreysfishfry said: I really don't believe that there will be a drastic difference in the FA market financially based on the fact that teams want to compete. All it takes is a couple teams to set the market again and other teams will have to follow suit. If teams want to win then it's inevitable and therefore universal, IMO. Yeah, unless teams want to save money and don't want to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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