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I know my own answer to this but for the sake of conversation...

The Marlins are in last place, ten games under .500, and nine back of the Mets in the division.

The front office and Donnie seem to think they're still capable of "a run" to get them back into the race, with the thought being that they still haven't played their best and that they still have the ability if they can show consistency.

The division overall is still pretty weak too, you never know when the Mets or any of the other three teams are gonna nosedive either. 

So, is it possible?

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Is it possible, maybe, will the Marlins FO really allow it, no. They can say what they want but they had the chance and they showed their true colores. The only chance they actually try to win is if there’s something in the CBA that would save them money or allow them to bring up guys without screwing their time.

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4 minutes ago, SilverBullet said:

I know my own answer to this but for the sake of conversation...

The Marlins are in last place, ten games under .500, and nine back of the Mets in the division.

The front office and Donnie seem to think they're still capable of "a run" to get them back into the race, with the thought being that they still haven't played their best and that they still have the ability if they can show consistency.

The division overall is still pretty weak too, you never know when the Mets or any of the other three teams are gonna nosedive either. 

So, is it possible?

Without bringing in some bullpen and bat help...no. And at this point it will be at a premium.

None of this should be a surprise when some of the louder voices in this forum and fanbase said they didn't need to compete till 2022. The front office mapped this out. This is what a freebie season looks like.

They should have been active in the offseason. I doubt they will bring in help now.

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3 hours ago, CyggyMarlin said:

Not with this current roster... too many inconsistent bats, bad bullpen and Donnie calling the shots... They shoukd've made changes end of May / beginning of June like the '03 team did

In particular that 8 game or whatever it was losing streak should've been the death knell for Don and his merry band of malcontents. They didn't show any urgency then so they sure as shit aren't going to show it now. I full expect them to jettison what they can at the deadline for another "retool"

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35 minutes ago, hovertical said:

In particular that 8 game or whatever it was losing streak should've been the death knell for Don and his merry band of malcontents. They didn't show any urgency then so they sure as shit aren't going to show it now. I full expect them to jettison what they can at the deadline for another "retool"

"What losing streak? I don't remember any losing streaks. You won't have any losing streaks if you just evaluate the team one day at a time."

-Jeter 

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I think there's a chance, yes, even if it's somewhat slim at this point.  It's going to take winning most series with some sweeps in there.  The starters are fine - it's going to take some more consistent hitting for sure, and less bizarre Don moves (unlikely).

 

Do I see it happening?  Probably not.  But we can dream lol.  While I know other teams have also had injuries and whatnot, I feel like we've also had a lot of bad luck - injuries, blatant incorrect review calls, etc. - that has to even out at some point, right?

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This team would be close to .500 with a better manager. I know I harp on this all the time, and for MOST teams in MOST seasons, the manager maybe directly alters the result of like, 3 or 4 games max. But we have directly seen Mattingly make the wrong choices and either give up a lead or not try to take back a lead when the team is down by 1 or 2 runs. I get it, the offense has struggled sometimes, but putting in your mop up relievers and letting pitchers bat when down 1 run is the opposite of trying to win. Besides what it does in the game itself, it shows the offense that their manager has no faith in them being able to come back from the slimmest of deficits. Add into the in-game issues that we can directly point a finger at and say "that's when we lost" the fact that he has the negative effects that can't be pinpointed (like benching Adam Duvall for 2 straight games when he was just starting a hot streak) and I can honestly say that I think Don Mattingly has changed the result of 10 Marlins games this season, all from wins (or at least ties at the time which could have turned into wins) into losses.

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35 minutes ago, SongInTheAir said:

This team would be close to .500 with a better manager. I know I harp on this all the time, and for MOST teams in MOST seasons, the manager maybe directly alters the result of like, 3 or 4 games max. But we have directly seen Mattingly make the wrong choices and either give up a lead or not try to take back a lead when the team is down by 1 or 2 runs. I get it, the offense has struggled sometimes, but putting in your mop up relievers and letting pitchers bat when down 1 run is the opposite of trying to win. Besides what it does in the game itself, it shows the offense that their manager has no faith in them being able to come back from the slimmest of deficits. Add into the in-game issues that we can directly point a finger at and say "that's when we lost" the fact that he has the negative effects that can't be pinpointed (like benching Adam Duvall for 2 straight games when he was just starting a hot streak) and I can honestly say that I think Don Mattingly has changed the result of 10 Marlins games this season, all from wins (or at least ties at the time which could have turned into wins) into losses.

 

I don't want him to be injured, but I "hope" Duvall is injured for him to not be in there.

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5 hours ago, SilverBullet said:

"What losing streak? I don't remember any losing streaks. You won't have any losing streaks if you just evaluate the team one day at a time."

-Jeter 

Doesn't he remember the 8 one game losing streaks the Marlins had in early June.

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1 hour ago, rmc523 said:

 

I don't want him to be injured, but I "hope" Duvall is injured for him to not be in there.

Why? He has actually been playing a lot better the past 3-4 weeks. Unlike in the first couple months he wasn't just hitting a homer in back to back games and then being hot garbage for 2 weeks.

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1 hour ago, hovertical said:

Maybe close to trading him?

I feel like that usually happens for maybe a game or the player is taken out of the game if something is imminent - don't remember seeing a guy being sat for multiple games for a trade.

1 hour ago, FishFan95 said:

Why? He has actually been playing a lot better the past 3-4 weeks. Unlike in the first couple months he wasn't just hitting a homer in back to back games and then being hot garbage for 2 weeks.

I want him in there.  I'm saying that there's been no given reason he's not started at least 1 of the last 2 games, fueling the injury thought.  Otherwise, it's just another inexplicable Don move.

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