August 17, 20232 yr Ranked 17th in ERA in mlb. Pretty significant regression there. what should the team do?
August 17, 20232 yr Turn back time to the trade deadline and acquire Michael Lorenzen ...damn, this team just not determined.
August 17, 20232 yr 19 minutes ago, pollythewog said: Ranked 17th in ERA in mlb. Pretty significant regression there. what should the team do? Nothing to do now. A lot of young arms beyond their previous inning highs, so they're tired.
August 17, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Nothing to do now. A lot of young arms beyond their previous inning highs, so they're tired. Yeah, this team have every reason to go all- in to acquire Lorenzen but they don't.
August 17, 20232 yr The only thing they can do is skip a few starts, and let guys like Soriano and Hoeing start a few games, and pray for the best. Maybe even bring up someone from the minors for a game.
August 17, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, TaiwanMarlins said: Yeah, this team have every reason to go all- in to acquire Lorenzen but they don't. Yup, we get it lol.
August 18, 20232 yr 12 hours ago, pollythewog said: Ranked 17th in ERA in mlb. Pretty significant regression there. what should the team do? Why do you see it as significant regression? They were only 14th last year. ERAs are up across the league with no shifts and bigger bases, and yet there WHIP only went from 1.27 to 1.28. For starting pitchers only, we are 13th in ERA, 8th in FIP, 4th in xFIP, 8th in WHIP, and 5th in SIERA, and 10th in WPA. Interestingly, 29th/30 hard hit % allowed, yet lowest line drive % allowed in the majors. Any explanation for that? 30/30 pull % allowed, 3rd highest ground ball %. Does this mean they’re giving up lots of hard hit ground balls? If that’s the case, then perhaps a killer defensive SS could be a huge value add.
August 18, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, mystikol87 said: Why do you see it as significant regression? They were only 14th last year. Top half vs bottom half, bay-beeee.
August 18, 20232 yr Phillies acquire Lorenzen for a "Taiwan" prospect, and they're much better now. C'mon it's just a Taiwan prospect, how good would a Taiwan prospect be !? and we can't beat that !? just UNFORGIVABLE ! ! ! ! !
August 18, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, mystikol87 said: Why do you see it as significant regression? They were only 14th last year. ERAs are up across the league with no shifts and bigger bases, and yet there WHIP only went from 1.27 to 1.28. For starting pitchers only, we are 13th in ERA, 8th in FIP, 4th in xFIP, 8th in WHIP, and 5th in SIERA, and 10th in WPA. Interestingly, 29th/30 hard hit % allowed, yet lowest line drive % allowed in the majors. Any explanation for that? 30/30 pull % allowed, 3rd highest ground ball %. Does this mean they’re giving up lots of hard hit ground balls? If that’s the case, then perhaps a killer defensive SS could be a huge value add. It could mean that our defense sucks, which it does.
August 18, 20232 yr Pull every starter at the first sign of trouble and prepare for next season. They're out of gas. You have to keep stretching them out but limit the high stress situations. They will be better next year. I'm pretty satisfied with the way this team is built now, minus SS and C. They need to upgrade that and spend the rest of the time building a great bullpen Edited August 18, 20232 yr by Entendu
August 18, 20232 yr 39 minutes ago, Entendu said: Pull every starter at the first sign of trouble and prepare for next season. On 8/17/2023 at 12:11 AM, Entendu said: This team is done. 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄
August 18, 20232 yr Author 2 minutes ago, SonOfJack said: 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 Pal what happens after they go 1-5 on this road trip?
August 18, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, pollythewog said: Pal what happens after they go 1-5 on this road trip? Well if that happens, then we look at the standings and see where they are. But I personally find it ridiculous to declare a season done while basically tied for a playoff spot.
August 18, 20232 yr 48 minutes ago, SonOfJack said: Well if that happens, then we look at the standings and see where they are. But I personally find it ridiculous to declare a season done while basically tied for a playoff spot. How does anything I said actually make the team worse this season? The SP is falling apart. They're losing the games for us. Pulling them early isn't a declaration that the season is done. It probably is an improvement. For what it's worth, I'm pretty confident this team will miss the playoffs. Look at our schedule vs the teams we're competing with for the WC spot. If that offends someone's sensibilities, then I'm terribly not sorry. It's reality.
August 18, 20232 yr We’re going to win every single one of Sandy’s starts, so just split the other 4, and we should be good to go! 😃
August 18, 20232 yr On 8/17/2023 at 11:36 AM, TaiwanMarlins said: Turn back time to the trade deadline and acquire Michael Lorenzen ...damn, this team just not determined. On 8/17/2023 at 11:48 AM, TaiwanMarlins said: Yeah, this team have every reason to go all- in to acquire Lorenzen but they don't. Kim Ng did so much more than most other teams this deadline yet they miss out on one guy and it means she's not determined? What?
August 18, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, SilverBullet said: Kim Ng did so much more than most other teams this deadline yet they miss out on one guy and it means she's not determined? What? Don't question panic freakout #857!
August 18, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, SilverBullet said: Kim Ng did so much more than most other teams this deadline yet they miss out on one guy and it means she's not determined? What? Not to mention, Lorenzen is a name that came up basically on the last day and now all of the sudden he was must have and a huge disaster of a miss. I'm sure @TaiwanMarlins saw that no-hitter coming though since he is from the future as we all know.
August 18, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, SilverBullet said: Kim Ng did so much more than most other teams this deadline yet they miss out on one guy and it means she's not determined? What? I believe she think this team have the best rotation in the league.
August 18, 20232 yr On 8/17/2023 at 11:48 AM, TaiwanMarlins said: Yeah, this team have every reason to go all- in to acquire Lorenzen but they don't. This team needed bats more than anything and they got them. Lorenzen was nothing more than an average pitcher at best before this season. I'm completely fine with the Marlins not going "all in" for a guy who has spent most of his career as a reliever and is suddenly having one decent season as a starter at 31 years old.
August 18, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Valid said: suddenly having one decent season as a starter at 31 years old. And better than Cueto, Cabrera and "second half season" Luzardo so that's a boost to our rotation, we need hitting but we need pitching, too.
August 18, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, TaiwanMarlins said: And better than Cueto, Cabrera and "second half season" Luzardo so that's a boost to our rotation, we need hitting but we need pitching, too. You can't just go all in for every player especially rentals
August 18, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, TaiwanMarlins said: I believe she think this team have the best rotation in the league. I think she knows this rotation needs help. But this bullpen and this offense also needed help she did A LOT to address those needs. Her not getting Lorenzen or any other SP doesn't mean she wasn't trying for one or that she was ok with her rotation. Sure, you have a right to be bothered that they didn't get a SP but you always make it sound like these things happen because Kim didn't want or care to do so. That's not how this works.
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