I approve of this trade.

I like Caissie, but I feel like we should've gotten more. Cabrera is a stud who finally put it together last year. Is he a high injury risk? Yes, but you can count on 2 hands the number of guys in the mlb with his kind of stuff.

3 minutes ago, farmer_fran said:

I like Caissie, but I feel like we should've gotten more. Cabrera is a stud who finally put it together last year. Is he a high injury risk? Yes, but you can count on 2 hands the number of guys in the mlb with his kind of stuff.

I think it's similar to the Luzardo trade in a way. Good pitcher with injury concerns. Marlins got burned when Luzardo stayed healthy all year. Will get burned if Eddy stays healthy.

Edited January 7Jan 7 by FishFan95

Caissie is a high powered lefty OF with strikeout issues in the past.... So basically a clone of Stowers and Conine.

18 minutes ago, Admin said:

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With the trade this is how I imagine things are looking for the team:

C- Gus
1B- Conine
2B- X
3B- Norby
SS- Otto
LF- Stowers
CF- Marsee
RF- Caissie
DH- Heriberto

Bench:
C- Hicks
UT- Sanoja
IN- Pauley
UT- Morel

As much as I would love to start with Joe Mack and move Gus to DH, I can't see them doing that until May at the earliest.

Esteury Ruiz has a shot, but Hicks and Sanoja are locks. Plus they may want to see if Morel can pan out on the investment. Plus they might try and platoon him with Conine at 1B. Pauley's spot might be the most viable path for Ruiz, but I feel like Pauley has the best shot. Only other guy on the 40 man is Victor Mesa Jr, who is a bit of a long shot.

The best part of the whole trade is that Bruce can save money on Cabrera’s arb figure!

lol, but seriously - I think it’s a good move to sell high. With his past inconsistency and injury history as mentioned above, there’s no guarantee he’ll stay on the field

57 minutes ago, Admin said:

I approve of this trade.

58 minutes ago, Admin said:

I approve of this trade.

Thanks, I was wondering what you thought.

It's an acceptable deal considering Cabs injury history. Hopefully Cassie pans out as well as Stowers has.

We have plenty of pitching depth but all are either unproven or have been injury prone up to now.

SP Depth

Sandy Alcantara

Eury Perez

Ryan Weathers

Max Meyer

Braxton Garrett

Janson Junk

Adam Mazur

Ryan Gusto

Rookies

Robby Snelling

Thomas White

Edited January 7Jan 7 by Rydawg

1 hour ago, FishFan95 said:

I think it's similar to the Luzardo trade in a way. Good pitcher with injury concerns. Marlins got burned when Luzardo stayed healthy all year. Will get burned if Eddy stays healthy.

Cassie is mlb rdy and has a very high ceiling so I like this trade far more than lizard trade. Lizard trade felt stupid at the time and it’s become even worse than expected and potentially cost us a playoff spot last year.

With that said, I don’t love it though as really enjoyed Eddie figuring out after all those years. The other two guys we got aren’t chopped liver wort nothing.

What is this team going to do against LHP tho?

1 hour ago, FishFan95 said:

As much as I would love to start with Joe Mack and move Gus to DH, I can't see them doing that until May at the earliest.

They'll give Mack a good look during Spring, certainly. Incentives now to have him make Opening Day roster, too.

Hicks isn't a guarantee by any measure, I think.

Ya, I dont think the marlins got enough.

not only the injury history but last year was the first time he started to finally reign in some of his wildness he's always been notorious for so who knows if that was just a "career" year type of thing or he'll actually keep making progress in that area.

2 hours ago, FishFan95 said:

With the trade this is how I imagine things are looking for the team:

C- Gus
1B- Conine
2B- X
3B- Norby
SS- Otto
LF- Stowers
CF- Marsee
RF- Caissie
DH- Heriberto

Bench:
C- Hicks
UT- Sanoja
IN- Pauley
UT- Morel

As much as I would love to start with Joe Mack and move Gus to DH, I can't see them doing that until May at the earliest.

Esteury Ruiz has a shot, but Hicks and Sanoja are locks. Plus they may want to see if Morel can pan out on the investment. Plus they might try and platoon him with Conine at 1B. Pauley's spot might be the most viable path for Ruiz, but I feel like Pauley has the best shot. Only other guy on the 40 man is Victor Mesa Jr, who is a bit of a long shot.

Both Heriberto and Conine as starters stinks. One, I could live with, especially because we know eventually it will be Mack at C and Gus with the lion's share of DH starts.

Get a fucking power bat. Christopher Morel is fucking embarrassing that he is the best they could do.

2 hours ago, SoFlaKingReal said:

Ya, I dont think the marlins got enough.

2025 was Cabrera's best year by a wide margin ... and he only logged 137.2 innings. Jumped his career high by 38 innings, which matters quite a bit.

He's got extensive injury history to this point - he even ended 2025 with yet another one, an elbow issue.

Additionally - is the control real? Did they actually unlock him? Career BB9 of 5.1 outside of 2025, where he dropped it down to 3.1.

Bendix traded him at the right time and we got a pretty good return, on paper. Whether it comes about is to be determined, but, with the way the team has turned around guys like Stowers, Marsee, Mack, et al - I think we'll be alright!

There’s an intriguing amount of power in this lineup now.

Conine at 1st is the real X factor. Can he stay healthy? Is he even good if so? If not at least there are some options. Morel, moving Ramirez there if Mack is ready, moving Norby there is De Los Santos is ready.

I like this trade and how the team is shaping up. One more corner infield option and some more bullpen depth feels feasible and I’ll feel pretty good.

6 hours ago, rmc523 said:

The best part of the whole trade is that Bruce can save money on Cabrera’s arb figure!

lol, but seriously - I think it’s a good move to sell high. With his past inconsistency and injury history as mentioned above, there’s no guarantee he’ll stay on the field

That, and the Marlins have a relative surplus of starting caliber pitchers versus position players, so it makes sense to try and balance it out.

5 hours ago, hovertical said:

not only the injury history but last year was the first time he started to finally reign in some of his wildness he's always been notorious for so who knows if that was just a "career" year type of thing or he'll actually keep making progress in that area.

He switched his arm angle and made mechanical adjustments (good job to dix and co) which are what accounted for consistency and drop in walks. Injuries def still a concern but there is a very very real chance Eddie becomes a top 10SP

1 hour ago, pollythewog said:

He switched his arm angle and made mechanical adjustments (good job to dix and co) which are what accounted for consistency and drop in walks. Injuries def still a concern but there is a very very real chance Eddie becomes a top 10SP

I love Eddy, but top 10 is quite a reach. I’d say there’s a slim chance he gets there.

The lowest top 10 pitching fWAR since 2021 was 4.1; Eddy was at 2.0 last year.

Yamamoto was the only 2025 top 10 fWAR pitcher with less than 183 IP. He had 173 IP, with a 2.49 ERA/2.94 FIP.

Even if Eddy made all 32 starts at the same IP/start rate, that puts him at 169 IP, with a 3.53 ERA/3.83 FIP.

To be top 10, roughly speaking he’d need to do at least two of: (1) make every start; (2) average 6+ IP/start (vs 5.3 last year); and (3) knock 0.5-1.0 off his FIP.

That’s a lot to go right.

Caissie better than Spencer Jones？

Edited January 8Jan 8 by TaiwanMarlins

5 hours ago, TaiwanMarlins said:

Caissie better than Spencer Jones？

Yes

8 hours ago, mystikol87 said:

That, and the Marlins have a relative surplus of starting caliber pitchers versus position players, so it makes sense to try and balance it out.

True, though we say this every year and then half of them get injured.

I'd like to see us sign a vet starter to safeguard against the inevitable injuries. But just like every year, we won't do it, and have to scramble.....

17 hours ago, Michael said:

They'll give Mack a good look during Spring, certainly. Incentives now to have him make Opening Day roster, too.

Hicks isn't a guarantee by any measure, I think.

Gus is not a long term catcher, but you don't want him out of the lineup. So as soon as Mack is up, you move Gus to DH and need Hicks as the backup backstop. Before you call up Mack, Hicks will be the number 2 to Gus. I think that of the bench guys, Hicks has the most guaranteed spot unless we add another catcher to the roster. Hell, even though I have him as a starter, I think Hicks is more likely to make the rester than Heriberto.