kito1988

I think he's talking about if they move out of Florida to another state, will they still keep their World Series titles?

Cabrera, Willis and Beckett alone should guarantee us a playoff spot. Everyone else is just a bonus. That's what we had last year and look what happened. :confused

Yeah, I remember the days when we drew as low as 4,000 people...and that is just the paid attendance so even less people came. When you go from that to what we have now, it's an improvement.

The attendance is going up SLOWLY every year. But if we average 30,000+ per game and go like 77-85, I won't be happy one bit. As long as we continue to field a winning team year in and year out (not very likely with our financial problems), that's all that matters.

Okay. Okay. I'm sorry for bringing out yet ANOTHER attendance thread. I just happened to look through our past games over the internet out of curiousity and when I looked at the box scores of our inaugural 1993 season, I saw that the attendance was in the 40,000s for a lot of the games. So I wanted to point it out to those who don't know and think we always only averaged 20,000 or worse per game when that's not the case. And what I meant by bringing out a winning team is that if we CONTINUE to bring out a winning team (meaning that we already had one), the people will come. And even though more people doesn't necessarily mean more wins, it just looks better.

If you look at the box scores from our inaugural season in 1993, you can see that we had like 35,000-45,000 people a game. Granted, it was our inaugural season so the fever of South Florida's first ever MLB team was there. But we were capable of putting those many people in the seats for every game. We even had similar results in 1994, though not as many people. This goes to show you that, if we get a new stadium, the people will eventually come. Especially if we bring out a winning team onto the field.

Then all four of South Florida's pro sports teams would be playing at the SAME TIME in some way or form. And I love them all: Florida Marlins-MLB playoffs Miami Dolphins-NFL regular season Miami Heat-NBA preseason Florida Panthers-NHL regular season And if you count college, then University of Miami football is playing at this time, too. A South Florida sports fan's dream. I never really noticed that until now, probably cuz hockey's back. Just a thought.

Like tapes (if you taped the games) or internet highlights of the 2003 postseason when WE were the team of destiny? I swear, I get a little teary-eyed when I watch highlights of those games. :crying

Exactly. And if we'd played the way we are capable of playing the entire season, we'd be running away with the Wild Card right now and possibly leading the NL East. That's what hurts the most is that we wasted such a talented team, similar to the 2002 Miami Dolphins that had the NFL-leading rusher Ricky Williams and a #3 defense and were 2 wins away from homefield advantage and missed the playoffs. :tissue

I saw the bottomline on Sportscenter and it said that the Braves-Phillies game will be on ESPN, not the Marlins-Astros. I thought that I read somewhere that the Marlins-Astros game with Burnett vs. Clemens was gonna be on ESPN. :mad Oh well. I guess we can't have 3 Wednesday Night Baseball games in a row on ESPN.

If only Pierre was his regular .300 self, this lineup would be more potent. That would allow us to have Hermida lower in the lineup and give us a spark down there. :confused Hopefully tonight's lineup can build on what they did in this game. :pray

This looks like a good lineup and all, but moving Pierre down to the 7th spot in the lineup takes away his basestealing because if he steals 2nd base, they'll walk Easley to get to the pitcher. :banghead But then again, Pierre has been struggling so maybe he won't even get on base to have an opportunity to steal.

At the very least we should split with Houston and Washington and then take 2 out of 3 from the Phillies. We should go at least 6-5 on this road trip. 930402[/snapback] If we go 6-5 in this roadtrip, you can pretty much kiss our postseason hopes goodbye.

Yes we've gained ground, but it's disappointing overall. Underachieving teams (like the Marlins) take 2 out of 3 AT BEST. If we played as good as we're capable of playing, we should have more than 2 sweeps all year. :banghead Just look at the number of sweeps the 1997 and 2003 team had and the number of sweeps the first place teams this year have and you'll see the difference. And to break it down a little further: No sweeps means no long winning streaks. :confused

Now that's how you score runs. Why can't we do that? :confused

I sure hope so. We only have 2 sweeps this year (both against Tampa Bay). And it looks like our opportunity to sweep teams is all but over because from here on out, we're gonna face teams either almost certainly playoff bound or competing for the wildcard.

I know. We still won the series against the Cubs. But come on! Can we sweep anybody other than the Devil Rays??? It seems like we have to lose at least one game to the teams that we're playing. :banghead Well, at least we're still in this thing at the moment. But I think at some point this season, we're gonna have to get a sweep against somebody. I don't think there's ever been a team that has made the postseason with only 2 sweeps the ENTIRE season.

Damn. So no Marlins on TV for me here in Jersey. Oh well. I'll probably have to wait until they play the Mets and Braves (whatever games are on TBS or ESPN) to see them again on TV.

As much as Pierre is struggling, he really can't play at any other part of the order other than #1 or MAYBE #2. His basestealing is too valuable. If he moves to #7 and he steals 2nd base, then they'll just walk the #8 hitter and get to the pitcher at the #9 spot. If only we were in the AL...

You know, if we're selling parts for the future and forgetting about this season and possibly next season, don't be surprised if Delgado demands a trade. He came to the Marlins, over the Mets, because he wanted to win and get into the playoffs. :plain

I know that. But if we can't take at least 4 (MAYBE 3) of the next 6 games over in Arizona and San Francisco, then it's time to start building for 2006. We have too much talent to be at .500 at the 90-game mark. We should already have almost 60 wins by now but are still at 45 and it seems like we've been at around 45 for several weeks now. :banghead

Then it's OFFICIALLY time to sell. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. If we can't win AT LEAST 4 out of 6 against the Diamondbacks and Giants combined (NOT 3-3, 4-2) then we truly suck and should start selling. For all we know, maybe it's already time to start selling. I mean, 7 games back in the division and 5.5 back in the wildcard looking up at Atlanta is a lot to come back from. It's truly sad that this group of talent can't pull it together. We lose 8 of 11 after winning 8 of 11. Pathetic. I'm still holding out some hope, but we have to be realistic. Do you honestly think that this group of players and coaches (even after trades and releases happen) can suddenly go on a surge and make the playoffs? Not likely. It's a shame, too.

Do we really want Redman back? He doesn't throw that fast and got smacked in the World Series. I think he's a good pitcher, but he's not the answer.

Mike Lowell thing you can't really blame them...I don't think anyone saw this coming. Al Leiter...while 8 million was excessive and he had started to show signs of what he has been doing in recent years there still was no indication that he would be THIS bad. Lee for Choi...move had to be made. It sucks looking back on it, but at the time Lee was unaffordable Not resigning Pudge...I'm still on the side that this was a good move. I sure wouldn't want to be paying that man 10 million dollars two years from now. Trade last year...probably their worst move, but would this team be any better if Penny and Choi were still around? I doubt it. 849862[/snapback] Even if Mike was doing good, you had Miguel to cover 3rd. we could have filled the void in LF via free agency. 849865[/snapback] Well, after not re-signing Pudge, we had to make a trade to get a catcher last year. We couldn't go any longer with having Redmond/Castro/Treanor as our catchers by committee. Getting Lo Duca, along with getting Encarnacion back, was a solid move, even if he had to give up a solid young arm in Brad Penny. We also got Mota, who last year was a much needed setup man to Armando Benitez because guys like Koch and Bump weren't gonna get it done.

Well, they fixed it on MLB.com and it now correctly has Bobby Abreu of the Phillies representing Venezuela.