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Right... And so did Juan Pierre... :thumbdown

Can you believe this??? The Isotopes scored two runs in the second inning off Darren Oliver, on four straight singles. Shortstop Wilson Valdez, who was sent down by the Marlins on Friday, had two singles, scored two runs and stole four bases, in the first two innings -- and it apparently did not set too well with the Marlins. Oliver purposely threw behind Valdez in the fourth inning. The umpire walked toward Oliver as Valdez remained in the batters box. Valdez responded with a double. :confused Hmmm...I just love baseball stuff like this ! :thumbup You gotta love a guy who says "I will not go quietly into the still night", or more bluntly, "stick most demotion up your keyster". I guess that's one way to look at it. I hope this doesn't come back to haunt Valdez down the road.

Can you believe this??? The Isotopes scored two runs in the second inning off Darren Oliver, on four straight singles. Shortstop Wilson Valdez, who was sent down by the Marlins on Friday, had two singles, scored two runs and stole four bases, in the first two innings -- and it apparently did not set too well with the Marlins. Oliver purposely threw behind Valdez in the fourth inning. The umpire walked toward Oliver as Valdez remained in the batters box. Valdez responded with a double. :confused

Easley should be happy he has a job...the Marlins were the only team to give him a chance.

Lighten up Marlins 2003...I was just kidding around...I thought you would have tougher skin than that...I'm sorry if I offended you. And haven't you been on a trade Gonzalez kick the last few days?

picks the Phillies to win the NL East and the Marlins to finish second. His pick for NL MVP and RBI leader? None other than D. Lee. Give me a break Mike. :thumbdown

Thank God spring training is over I have never heard so much b***hing in my life on the the games that count! b***hing??? You haven't heard anything yet...just wait til the regular season starts!!! The first Choi strikeout, the first blown save by Benitez, the first time Wayne gives up a few runs, the first error by SeaBass (I can hear Marlins2003 now - calling for Gonzalez to be sent to Siberia in order to make room for the immortal Wilson Valdez)...then you'll really hear b***hing. Not to mention the first DLee homerun... And God forbid if Adrian Gonzalez should get called up and hits a homerun or Gary Knotts pitches a complete game or Denny Batista lights it up for the O's...then you'll hear some more b***hing... :whistle

Edcanes...isn't it great that baseball season is back? Isn't it great to have Edcanes back? Thanks for the info. The Dodgers should deal Mota...he won't be replacing Gagne anytime soon...but would DePodesta actually pull the trigger?

Something had to be done. I seem to recall that Howard was out of options. It boils down to a change of scenery for a couple of underachievers. Hopefully Rosey can straighten Howard out and tap some of that potential.

This thread is pointless.. Too bad we din't trade Brown, Leiter and Livan...they could have provided some additional competition as well. :blink:

also, in late May or June you'll have one of the starters moved to the pen when A.J. comes back. Excellent point! :notworthy

Controlled Perisho may be left-handed complement By Tom D'Angelo FORT MYERS -- Matt Perisho is hoping to settle down this season. The left-hander, who has pitched in 17 cities during 11 professionals seasons, would like to call South Florida home. The journey has come attached with one recurring label: Perisho has a difficult time finding the plate. "That's what I heard about him,'' Marlins pitching coach Wayne Rosenthal said. Perisho, 28, is looking to shed that reputation as he attempts to solidify a spot in the Marlins bullpen. "The drive for me right now it to prove everybody wrong,'' Perisho said. "The control thing has come up here. I've never bought into what people were saying. There have been mechanical struggles over the years, there's been mental struggles at times and there are some adjustment to be made.'' Perisho retired the only batter he faced Wednesday during the Marlins' 6-5 loss to Minnesota, strengthening his chances to occupy one of the left-handed spots in the bullpen. He got left-hander Mike Ryan to ground out to first base with a runner on third in the sixth inning. Perisho is one of about nine pitchers vying for three spots, but in reality, four left-handers -- Perisho, Franklyn Gracesqui, Tommy Phelps and Michael Tejera -- are fighting for one or two spots. "A specialist would be fine with me,'' Perisho said. "I just really like pitching when the game is on the line.'' The Marlins adjusted Perisho's delivery early in spring, lining him up so he does not fly open and getting his front arm higher so he's throwing more over the top than from the side. The results have been positive. In 6 2/3 innings, Perisho has walked two. He has a 1.42 ERA. From 1997 to 2002, Perisho pitched 215 innings for Anaheim, Texas and Detroit, and walked 125, an average of 5.2 per nine innings. "I haven't seen any control problems,'' Rosenthal said. "He's been around the plate, he hasn't been wild. He's throwing strikes and getting guys out.'' Perisho was selected by the Angels in the third round in 1993. He made his professional debut five years later and was permanently moved to the bullpen in 2001, saying pitching in relief was "the most fun'' he's had playing baseball. But the numbers didn't improve and Perisho's big league statistics (4-14, 7.07 ERA) prove how desperate teams are for left-handers. Perisho admitted as much saying, "I figure I'm left-handed, everybody wants a lefty,'' when asked if he thought he might be out of chances when he played in Venezuela this winter hoping to be noticed. He was, by his own manager, Luis Dorante, who manages the Marlins Class A affiliate in Jupiter and recommended his pitcher to the organization, Perisho's sixth. Perisho was 8-2 overall and had a 1.98 ERA in 13 2/3 innings in the playoffs. "I've watched enough baseball through the years to know my stuff compared to the other people's stuff,'' Perisho said. "If I can throw strikes, I'll be all right.''

NO! :banghead

perisho may do well coming in for 1-2 innings at a time. Perisho may need only to do well against 2 or 3 batters at a time. It shouldn't take him long to become familiar with Thome, Abreu and Floyd. I fhe can handle the tough lefties he'll become one of the most valuable arms in the pen. Can't believe Neal cleared waivers. You'd think the Tigers or Pirates would have taken a chance on him. I guess it ends up working out for the marlins though.

Sounds like Sturtze cost himself a job. Can Tejera be sent down to Triple A?

I'm still sick about Cruz and Reitsma lolol Can we give Beinfest and Co the benefit of the doubt on these two? Didin't the Braves give up some fairly good prospects for them (Bong & Pratt - I believe)? Who's to say the Reds and Cubs weren't making outrageous demands knowing the Marlins somewhat desparate situation in middle relief. Would we have wanted the Fish to have traded Olson or Hutchinson for either Cruz or Reitsma? I think not. I for one have faith in the front office based on their track record here with the Marlins. As for Sturtz, there is absolutely no risk involved with him - why not give him a chance? Some time these things pay-off (look at the Easley pickup) - if and when Sturtz bombs, he can go down to Alburquerque and we haven't lost a thing. :cool

I'd take my chances with Tanyon Sturtz as the sixth member of the pen. My guess is that Neal either makes the team or is traded (Dave Dombroski are you listening?) as he is out of options. I'd love to see Tejera dealt as well...if Beinfest is able to trade Tejera for anything...he will be considered a genius in my book. Bump will probably beleft in Alburquerque. Perisho, Phelps and Wayne have earned their spots. Can't wait for the season to start! :thumbup

I'm not sure who I hate more - King or Heizenga.

What the hell are we going to do with this guy? Has he won Trader Jack over yet - with his latest performance? :notworthy

The "12 Black Aces" Vida Blue Al Downing Bob Gibson Dwight Gooden Mudcat Grant Ferguson Jenkins Sad Sam Jones Don Newcombe Mike Norris J.R. Richard Dave Stewart Earl Wilson Here's to Dontrelle becoming lucky #13... :cheers

Sun Sentinel says we are looking at a possible deal for Reitsma from the Reds or Ben Howard from the Padres. Reidling from the Reds, not Reitsma.

I really hope that guys at QAM (Fat Hank in particular) pick up on the garbage Wayne is spewing. Wayne is a first-class a**hole. :thumbdown

Oliver is scheduled to start. Pavano will also pitch a couple of innings.

Article on floridamarlins.com says Banks will undergo knee surgery and will start the season the DL. I'm not sure how to re-post the story...hopefully someone else can. Welcome aboard Mr. Nunez. :notworthy An MRI exam taken Monday morning revealed bone fragments in his right knee. Banks is tentatively scheduled to undergo arthroscopic knee surgery on Friday. Banks will be out a minimum of two to three weeks, and a maximum of two or three months depending on the extent of the fragments. "I went in there more to clear the air that nothing was in there," Banks said. "I came out of it with bone fragments in there."

Who did the Phillies acquire? Patience, 2003, patience...