fauowls44 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/...t=.jsp&c_id=fla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 I'm liking the Helms signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipkenisGod8 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Wes Helms...woot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish4Life Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Olivo was expected...I think he will win the starting job and put Josh in LF. Wess Helms isnt too bad, has a decent bat and is a capable back-up... Adding these players is cool with me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanks1212 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Both good signings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 I know Helms hits LHP well.. but still, I just hope he doesn't take ABs away from Jacobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 I'm very pleased :thumbup  Olivo is a good signing for a number of reasons, Helms is a guy with a bunch of things that need to be fixed but for 2006 the team is starting to take shape. It's going to be interesting to see who winds up making the 25 man roster coming out of spring training but at least we'll see some competition for roster spots as opposed to just handing jobs to kids who may or may not be ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fauowls44 Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 Here's what Rotoworld has to say.... Miguel Olivo - C - Marlins  Marlins signed catcher Miguel Olivo, who had been with the Padres, to a one-year contract. Olivo, who is joining his fourth team in a year and a half, will compete with Josh Willingham for the starting job behind the plate. He hasn't played well in the Dominican Republic, but he did hit .304/.341/.487 in 116 AB after joining the Padres last season. It's improved defense that the Marlins will want to see in spring training. Olivo has all of the tools, but neither the Mariners nor the Padres were impressed at all by his glovework. Dec. 30 - 6:11 pm et Wes Helms - 3B - Marlins  Marlins signed first baseman-third baseman Wes Helms, who had been with the Brewers, to a one-year contract. Another decent pickup for Florida. Helms figures to be Mike Jacobs' platoonmate at first base. He can also back up Miguel Cabrera at third base and some spot duty in the outfield corners is a possibility. Helms had an 881 OPS in 83 AB against lefties last season and is at 824 for his career. He was miscast as a regular by the Brewers, but he has some value. Dec. 30 - 6:07 pm et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Here's his multimedia page from MLB.com http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/NASApp/ml...layer_id=136500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 I still think Reese and Amezaga will be our starting 2B and SS to begin the year... with Hanley starting in the minors.  Here's an interesting question: Could Helms start at 3B? ...moving Cabs back to LF, Hermida to CF and Willy to RF?  I sincerely doubt it but it could be an option. I'd just rather Cabs never leave 3B and not even mess with Hermida in CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geemoney Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 While the signings of the last couple days haven't been blow-away signings, they are nice bargain pick-ups, and as Marlins2003 said, it creates some interesting competition for roster spots next spring. It's good to see we're at least doing SOMEHTING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Amezaga is garbage, I'd much rather have Andino or Wilson playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skully Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Girardi has said that he wants to give Jacobs a shot at playing every day. That means playing against righties and lefties. Not sure what Helms role will be. I guess he is good to have a backup in case Jacobs struggles. However, I think Jacobs will be fine, meaning Helms becomes our backup 1b and 3b, and good bench player. I like these moves, but how weird is it that we're getting excited over signing Wes Helms, Miguel Olivo, Pokey Reese, and Joe Borowski?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Punisher Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Wes Helms is a tremendous positive signing. But it makes no sense since we are intending on starting Jacobs, unless he plays other positions? Will we pull a Kevin Millar with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Girardi has said that he wants to give Jacobs a shot at playing every day. That means playing against righties and lefties. Not sure what Helms role will be. I guess he is good to have a backup in case Jacobs struggles. However, I think Jacobs will be fine, meaning Helms becomes our backup 1b and 3b, and good bench player. I like these moves, but how weird is it that we're getting excited over signing Wes Helms, Miguel Olivo, Pokey Reese, and Joe Borowski?? I don't see anyone peeing their pants over these signings, yet those signed so far are interesting and cheap players that could potentially join the core ala rferry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofthefish Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I like the Helms signing, as for Olivio he lost his job to a 42 year old journeyman last year in Seattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishfan25 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 with these 4 signings in the last 2 days we have improved from a 50 win team to possibly now a 60 win team. hey its an improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAndMrsFish Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I really like these pick ups, even though Olivo we knew for a couple of days, looks like the front office has been working hard with four signings over the past two days. Nice to have some veterans to mix in with all the kids we have on this team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skully Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Girardi has said that he wants to give Jacobs a shot at playing every day. That means playing against righties and lefties. Not sure what Helms role will be. I guess he is good to have a backup in case Jacobs struggles. However, I think Jacobs will be fine, meaning Helms becomes our backup 1b and 3b, and good bench player. I like these moves, but how weird is it that we're getting excited over signing Wes Helms, Miguel Olivo, Pokey Reese, and Joe Borowski?? I don't see anyone peeing their pants over these signings, yet those signed so far are interesting and cheap players that could potentially join the core ala rferry. Nah, I know.. I didn't mean anything bad by it. I just find it weird how last year at this time, we were all talking about Carlos Delgado and whether he was gonna put us over the top... It's just a strange feeling only one year later.. that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 If you go back into initial Olivo thread, I linked a piece by a Mariner's blog guy that was really quite insightful. Olivo it seems was really shaken to the core by being traded and never quite recovered, and the two scouts quoted in the piece both seem to think he's a capable MLer who needs to work on a couple of things to really see the best come out in him. If anyone missed it, here's the link again, I think it's worth another read: http://ussmariner.com/?p=2478 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I think he'll put up good numbers with everyday ABs... That's not what I'm worried about. I just hope Girardi can help him out with his defense and the way he handles a pitcher. Should be interesting but I love the pickup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackaWhacka Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Girardi has said that he wants to give Jacobs a shot at playing every day. That means playing against righties and lefties. Not sure what Helms role will be. I guess he is good to have a backup in case Jacobs struggles. However, I think Jacobs will be fine, meaning Helms becomes our backup 1b and 3b, and good bench player. I like these moves, but how weird is it that we're getting excited over signing Wes Helms, Miguel Olivo, Pokey Reese, and Joe Borowski??  I hope Girardi does let Jacobs play every day. He has to see left-handed pitching every chance he gets so he can get used to them. Sure the Franco/LaRoche platoon has worked very well for the Braves but Helms is not that good a hitter as Franco and you gotta let the guy who is in your future plans (Jacobs) develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Altamonte Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 ...Helms will be defensive backup for both Jacobs and Cabrera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I know Helms hits LHP well.. but still, I just hope he doesn't take ABs away from Jacobs.  Me too. He'd be a decent bat off the bench though & if Jacobs struggles a little & they do wind up platooning Helms some.... well that OPS vs lefties isn't bad at all. & Cabrera would not be happy at all moving back to the outfield because Wes Helms just took his position. :shifty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelmsE Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Yes! A player with my same last name playing on the Fish... gotta love it... Besides that he's a pretty solid player so that's a plus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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