May 3, 200620 yr i think he is being over used alot! almost every game im seeing him used in the 7th or 8th inning and it always goes down hill from then on when he comes into the game. its like bad luck or something. i want to see messenger and german pitch alot more.
May 3, 200620 yr i think he is being over used alot! almost every game im seeing him used in the 7th or 8th inning and it always goes down hill from then on when he comes into the game. its like bad luck or something. i want to see messenger and german pitch alot more. It's not bad luck, he just sucks.
May 3, 200620 yr I don't think it's time to cut bait on Herges quite yet, but his role could be reduced some in favor of Welly, German, and Messy. He currently leads the bullpen in appearances and IP.
May 3, 200620 yr Please bring back Billy Koch if you have to. Anything but Herges. :banghead Oh geez no Koch. Bring back :bump
May 3, 200620 yr worst batting average against in the entire bullpen. that shouldn't be the guy getting the most work.
May 3, 200620 yr The real problem here is the fact that the starters don't usually get through 6 (or even 5) innings. If Olsen could have lasted another three innings yesterday, then Herges doesn't come in at all (Messenger for 7th and 8th, and Borowski the 9th would have taken care of it). I think Herges has some value to this team, but he will be continued to be setup to fail as long as our starters don't contribute.
May 3, 200620 yr Opp. have a .308 avg against Herges. His projected K to walk ratio is 50BB and 69K and he is projected to go 0-12. :thumbdown
May 3, 200620 yr His projected K to walk ratio is 50BB and 69K At least he has more strikeouts than walks. Vargas, Olsen, and German do not. (Johnson is close at 9 BB vs 10 K)
May 3, 200620 yr The real problem here is the fact that the starters don't usually get through 6 (or even 5) innings. If Olsen could have lasted another three innings yesterday, then Herges doesn't come in at all (Messenger for 7th and 8th, and Borowski the 9th would have taken care of it). I think Herges has some value to this team, but he will be continued to be setup to fail as long as our starters don't contribute. Do you really think that's true? I don't. If the starter goes 7, Herges pitches the 8th, and JoBo pitches the 9th. Whatever the reason, Girardi wants Herges in there, before anyone else.
May 3, 200620 yr The real problem here is the fact that the starters don't usually get through 6 (or even 5) innings. If Olsen could have lasted another three innings yesterday, then Herges doesn't come in at all (Messenger for 7th and 8th, and Borowski the 9th would have taken care of it). I think Herges has some value to this team, but he will be continued to be setup to fail as long as our starters don't contribute. Do you really think that's true? I don't. If the starter goes 7, Herges pitches the 8th, and JoBo pitches the 9th. Whatever the reason, Girardi wants Herges in there, before anyone else. he probably planned on Herges's performance to be a little closer to average than he's fared so far. I agreed with him giving higher leverage innings to more veteran pen guys at first, and JoBo has done pretty well I think. Herges, however, needs to have his role reduced situations of less import.
May 3, 200620 yr He doesn't suck, look at his career numbers, even with the horrible season he is having right now, his career ERA is STILL in the low 3's He is just having a bad year, but I agree, there is NO point using a struggling releiver in close situations.
May 3, 200620 yr He doesn't suck, look at his career numbers, even with the horrible season he is having right now, his career ERA is STILL in the low 3's He is just having a bad year, but I agree, there is NO point using a struggling releiver in close situations. It depends what your definition of suck is? I personally think he sucks http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/H/matt-herges.shtml
May 3, 200620 yr Please bring back Billy Koch if you have to. Anything but Herges. :banghead That really is desparation !
May 4, 200620 yr Does anybody seriously like him? Does he bring anything to this team? i like him. lay off the haterade.
May 4, 200620 yr Does anybody seriously like him? Does he bring anything to this team? In my opinion he brings veteranship that isn't needed at this time. As a veteran you need to set an example for the young guys, if you are allowing to be hit around like he is you won't have the repsect of the youngsters, at this point he brings 0 to the table and should be waived. I am sure many will agree. He was once good pitching for the Giants, but those days are CLEARLY behind him. Time to move on.
May 4, 200620 yr If Marlins are gonna go by youth, then they should lose by youth... Get rid of Herges and let the kids get the innings
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