TrustN61 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I can't access Si rumors at work. Porn warning...don't know what that is about. Has anyone read this?? I'm sure it's the usual...Uggla, Ross, Cantu?? Maybe Johnson??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geemoney Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Probably got their info from this Herald article: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/baseball/florida-marlins/story/1258707.html Word around the Marlins is significant offseason changes are likely coming, with some familiar faces to be jettisoned. With Florida expected to keep payroll around $37 million barring a surprising change in approach, the Marlins plan to dump Jeremy Hermida; believe they probably cannot afford Dan Uggla (though owner Jeffrey Loria likes him a lot, as one player said); and likely will not re-sign Nick Johnson unless he settles for a deal well below market value. There's also talk from Marlins people that the team might not be able to afford Jorge Cantu, but that's in question. Josh Johnson, Ricky Nolasco, Uggla, Cantu, Cody Ross and Hermida headline the list of arbitration-eligible Marlins players. Some scuttlebutt: • There are mixed feelings internally about whether to move Chris Coghlan to second (if Uggla is dealt) or whether to keep him in left field. Some Marlins people have concerns about his defensive ability at second, where he played in the minors. The Marlins do not believe Coghlan would be a good fit at third base. ``Left field could be his best position -- he has taken to it,'' manager Fredi Gonzalez said. The Marlins would consider using Emilio Bonifacio at second base if Uggla is dealt. Bonifacio said second is his best position, but the Marlins must decide if he's good enough offensively to start. They also could trade for a cheap second baseman. • If Nick Johnson and/or Cantu aren't retained, the Marlins will give a long spring look to top first-base prospect Logan Morrison, who also can play left field. Gaby Sanchez is another option at first. If Cantu is traded, third-base options would include Wes Helms (will make $950,000 in 2010), Bonifacio (been there, done that) or a prospect acquired for Uggla or Cantu. • The Marlins could keep Cantu and stay slightly above this year's payroll if: they trade Uggla and Hermida; do not re-sign their top four potential free agents (Nick Johnson, Kiko Calero, Brendan Donnelly, Ross Gload); do not tender Alfredo Amezaga; and add nobody making more than $400,000 or so. • With a need for outfielders, there's internal support for keeping Ross, who could make $5 million. Cantu could make $6 million and Uggla $7 million. • If Coghlan stays in left, the rest of the outfield figures to be Cameron Maybin in center and Ross in right. Maybin has hit .265 since returning from Triple A. Top prospect Mike Stanton might be ready by next summer or 2011. • There's a good chance the 2010 rotation will come from the current group of starters -- Josh Johnson, Nolasco and five others competing for three spots (Chris Volstad, Anibal Sanchez, Andrew Miller, Sean West and Rick VandenHurk). • Gonzalez ``will wait until next year'' to decide whether Leo Nuñez or Matt Lindstrom will be the closer. ``Both can do it,'' he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louiecastillo1 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 The Marlins would consider using Emilio Bonifacio at second base if Uggla is dealt. Kill me now. :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fauowls44 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 The Marlins would consider using Emilio Bonifacio at second base if Uggla is dealt. Kill me now. :banghead I think the fact that Bonifacio has basically been nothing more then a pinch runner over the past 2 months shows what the Marlins think of him as a regular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louiecastillo1 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 The Marlins would consider using Emilio Bonifacio at second base if Uggla is dealt. Kill me now. :banghead I think the fact that Bonifacio has basically been nothing more then a pinch runner over the past 2 months shows what the Marlins think of him as a regular. But if they can save 5 bucks, he'll be out there next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrustN61 Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 This is bad news if both Nunez or Lindstrom are retained. I'm seeing the basement coming up next year. We need to open up payroll a little bit also. I thought that would happen once the stadium gets started....at least 5-6 million up to 60-70 million total once we are in the new stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 • Gonzalez ``will wait until next year'' to decide whether Leo Nuñez or Matt Lindstrom will be the closer. ``Both can do it,'' he said. Would be great if both would leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishheatcats Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I know the track record and all, and the team's current economic situation at >insert sponsor< Stadium, but I just can't see the Fish dumping more than 1 "big name" guy this winter. I think they'll take the relatively small financial hit to keep guys like Uggla, Cantu and/or Nick Johnson and avoid the PR mess that will come from "dismantling" again. The new ballpark is going up now, no more excuses. People will have even more of a fit about the ballpark then they already are if payroll goes down or stays the same. They've got to keep as many guys as possible and then add a starter or two. They simply cannot continue with business as usual anymore. I expect Hermida to be gone(which I have no problem with), and one of Cantu/N. Johnson(tougher loss to accept). Trade/lose anyone after that(without replacing with a major league ready equivalent) and the team will have some serious explaining to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallahassee Pain Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I really hope we keep Cody this offseason and JJ in the future, also the fact that Bonerface could start at 2B isnt comforting at all...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrustN61 Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 Boni will be Alfredo 2. I can see if he has a lot of improvement putting him out there at 2b but I think we're going to go with another player there. I'm thinking this is shaping up to be a fight with the Nats for the basement next year. Stranger things have happened though. I can tell you I have ZERO expectations next year. Ok, please be better than the NATS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrustN61 Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 • Gonzalez ``will wait until next year'' to decide whether Leo Nuñez or Matt Lindstrom will be the closer. ``Both can do it,'' he said. Would be great if both would leave. I think Lindstrom at least. Nunez we could try back in relief next year but Lindstrom??? All I can say it better be injury related. That better have been the reason why he sucked so bad this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I see Hermida and Uggla leaving, and Cantu and Ross staying. I'd love to keep Johnson around but I don't see that happening. I think Jorge is a candidate to bust out next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 • Gonzalez ``will wait until next year'' to decide whether Leo Nuñez or Matt Lindstrom will be the closer. ``Both can do it,'' he said. Would be great if both would leave. I think Lindstrom at least. Nunez we could try back in relief next year but Lindstrom??? All I can say it better be injury related. That better have been the reason why he sucked so bad this year. Nunez is actually going to cost more, considering his 25 saves, and he sure as hell isn't worth it. I'd actually rather keep Lindstrom at this point. Lindstrom's been bad. Nunez has been bad...and lucky. If I was GM, every reliever would be earning less than a mill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnellders Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Still wouldn't be completely shocked to see Uggla hang around, for his 30 HR power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louiecastillo1 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Still wouldn't be completely shocked to see Uggla hang around, for his 30 HR power. You don't know the cheapskates that run this team very well, do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnellders Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Still wouldn't be completely shocked to see Uggla hang around, for his 30 HR power. You don't know the cheapskates that run this team very well, do you? I still expect him to be traded, but considering he is leading the team in HR and has shown he can get to 30 a season for a few years now, the organisation may feel the team would be lacking in the power department if we didn't have him. Who do we really have that can come in and make an immediate impact to the tune of 20+ HR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_Marlins25 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Still wouldn't be completely shocked to see Uggla hang around, for his 30 HR power. You don't know the cheapskates that run this team very well, do you? What were their names again?.Zortron and Dennis?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrustN61 Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 • Gonzalez ``will wait until next year'' to decide whether Leo Nuñez or Matt Lindstrom will be the closer. ``Both can do it,'' he said. Would be great if both would leave. I think Lindstrom at least. Nunez we could try back in relief next year but Lindstrom??? All I can say it better be injury related. That better have been the reason why he sucked so bad this year. Nunez is actually going to cost more, considering his 25 saves, and he sure as hell isn't worth it. I'd actually rather keep Lindstrom at this point. Lindstrom's been bad. Nunez has been bad...and lucky. If I was GM, every reliever would be earning less than a mill. Good idea. Isn't that what the Marlins are doing??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Beinfest Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 The Marlins would consider using Emilio Bonifacio at second base if Uggla is dealt. Kill me now. :banghead Well it's a good thing you didn't read the bottom statement... or you'd have done away with yourself already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberschnell Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 • Gonzalez ``will wait until next year'' to decide whether Leo Nuñez or Matt Lindstrom will be the closer. ``Both can do it,'' he said. Would be great if both would leave. Would be a dream come true...just show em the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backin2008 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 If the Marlins get rid of Josh Johnson they are complete fools. You can't keep dumping younger players and expect to ever build a consistent winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I'll beat Marlins2003 to saying I immediately knew who wrote that Herald article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 • Gonzalez ``will wait until next year'' to decide whether Leo Nuñez or Matt Lindstrom will be the closer. ``Both can do it,'' he said. Would be great if both would leave. I think Lindstrom at least. Nunez we could try back in relief next year but Lindstrom??? All I can say it better be injury related. That better have been the reason why he sucked so bad this year. Nunez is actually going to cost more, considering his 25 saves, and he sure as hell isn't worth it. I'd actually rather keep Lindstrom at this point. Lindstrom's been bad. Nunez has been bad...and lucky. If I was GM, every reliever would be earning less than a mill. Good idea. Isn't that what the Marlins are doing??? Apparently not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I'll beat Marlins2003 to saying I immediately knew who wrote that Herald article. I was going to say something earlier today, but why...same old same old :notworthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someguy150 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 If the Marlins get rid of Josh Johnson they are complete fools. You can't keep dumping younger players and expect to ever build a consistent winner. Yeah. If they drop JJ I will be disappoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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