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Coghlan

Infante

Ramirez

Stanton

Morrison

Sanchez

Buck

Dominguez

 

I would love to see LoMo in the middle of the order, he gets on base and could keep a rally going. This also keeps sanchez and stanton apart so we don't have the two strikeouts in a row, that we had sometimes with Cody, and Uggla.

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I'd actually rather have Dominguez start the season in the minors, and go with...

 

1. Coghlan 2B/3B

2. Infante 2B/3B

3. Hanley SS

4. Stanton RF

5. Morrison LF

6. Gaby 1B

7. Buck C

8. Pitcher

9. Bonifacio CF

 

OR

 

8. Cousins CF

9. Pitcher

 

...but they'll go with what has been said already on this thread.

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I'd actually rather have Dominguez start the season in the minors, and go with...

 

1. Coghlan 2B/3B

2. Infante 2B/3B

3. Hanley SS

4. Stanton RF

5. Morrison LF

6. Gaby 1B

7. Buck C

8. Pitcher

9. Bonifacio CF

 

OR

 

8. Cousins CF

9. Pitcher

 

...but they'll go with what has been said already on this thread.

 

 

I'd rather let Matty D test himself at the MLB level. As long as he is fine defensively, (not a sure thing, maybe his nerves or bat affects his glove) his WAR should be fine for this team. Plus he can't be much worse in the 8-hole than what we had last year.

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I'd actually rather have Dominguez start the season in the minors, and go with...

 

1. Coghlan 2B/3B

2. Infante 2B/3B

3. Hanley SS

4. Stanton RF

5. Morrison LF

6. Gaby 1B

7. Buck C

8. Pitcher

9. Bonifacio CF

 

OR

 

8. Cousins CF

9. Pitcher

 

...but they'll go with what has been said already on this thread.

 

 

I'd rather let Matty D test himself at the MLB level. As long as he is fine defensively, (not a sure thing, maybe his nerves or bat affects his glove) his WAR should be fine for this team. Plus he can't be much worse in the 8-hole than what we had last year.

 

 

I'm more worried about Coghlan defensively in CF than I am about Dominguez, to be honest. My point with Dominguez is that if he doesn't project to perform to his full potential right away, they can let him develop further in the minors, and call him up like they did Stanton to delay arbritration.

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Why isn't Morrison getting more consideration at #2?

 

He doesn't have much power and is probably a .380-.400 OBP guy. I see Coghlan being more like a .340ish guy. Even with his speed, I see Coghlan as someone who should be hitting below the heart of the order.

 

 

that'd be fine too, and though I mentioned Gaby at #2, Gaby may have a little more pop than Logan at least initially so may be a better fit for 5/6 than Logan. Hard to figure how much Morrison's power will develop. One thing is that Logan's pretty slow and that "clog up the bases" thing comes to mind at #2, but if he's getting on base a ton I don't much care that he's not a base stealer.

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Why isn't Morrison getting more consideration at #2?

 

He doesn't have much power and is probably a .380-.400 OBP guy. I see Coghlan being more like a .340ish guy. Even with his speed, I see Coghlan as someone who should be hitting below the heart of the order.

 

 

 

With Uggla departing, I think we need Morrison more in the middle of the order. He didn't show much power in terms of HR's last year, but he did get plenty of extra base hits; some of those extra base hits will probably turn into HR's, sooner or later.

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Why isn't Morrison getting more consideration at #2?

 

He doesn't have much power and is probably a .380-.400 OBP guy. I see Coghlan being more like a .340ish guy. Even with his speed, I see Coghlan as someone who should be hitting below the heart of the order.

 

 

 

With Uggla departing, I think we need Morrison more in the middle of the order. He didn't show much power in terms of HR's last year, but he did get plenty of extra base hits; some of those extra base hits will probably turn into HR's, sooner or later.

 

Yeah this. He had 20 doubles in not even half of the season. I can see some of those making it over the fence. Although I really did like him in the #2 slot last season, I think Infante will get that slot behind Coghlan. But yeah, the lineup could change in many ways and still be effective. It's nice to have that kind of flexibility.

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Why isn't Morrison getting more consideration at #2?

 

He doesn't have much power and is probably a .380-.400 OBP guy. I see Coghlan being more like a .340ish guy. Even with his speed, I see Coghlan as someone who should be hitting below the heart of the order.

 

 

 

With Uggla departing, I think we need Morrison more in the middle of the order. He didn't show much power in terms of HR's last year, but he did get plenty of extra base hits; some of those extra base hits will probably turn into HR's, sooner or later.

I don't recall many of those 2Bs being of the near miss variety. For Gaby Sanchez, yes, but not so much Morrison. It comes down to the types of hitters you see Coglan and Morrison settling into. Morrison's SLG in 2010 was worse than Coglan's was in 2009. I see Coghlan not keeping such a high OBP but beating Morrison in SLG. I don't see Morrison ever developing home-run (20+) power.

 

If Dominguez is in the line-up he'll be hitting for power. His power along with Gaby Sanchez in the middle of the order for the entire season (plus the addition of Buck) should definitely compensate for the power loss of Uggla.

 

The Marlins just need two guys at the top getting on base regularly. Infante and Morrison are the best options.

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Why isn't Morrison getting more consideration at #2?

 

He doesn't have much power and is probably a .380-.400 OBP guy. I see Coghlan being more like a .340ish guy. Even with his speed, I see Coghlan as someone who should be hitting below the heart of the order.

 

 

 

With Uggla departing, I think we need Morrison more in the middle of the order. He didn't show much power in terms of HR's last year, but he did get plenty of extra base hits; some of those extra base hits will probably turn into HR's, sooner or later.

I don't recall many of those 2Bs being of the near miss variety. For Gaby Sanchez, yes, but not so much Morrison. It comes down to the types of hitters you see Coglan and Morrison settling into. Morrison's SLG in 2010 was worse than Coglan's was in 2009. I see Coghlan not keeping such a high OBP but beating Morrison in SLG. I don't see Morrison ever developing home-run (20+) power.

 

If Dominguez is in the line-up he'll be hitting for power. His power along with Gaby Sanchez in the middle of the order for the entire season (plus the addition of Buck) should definitely compensate for the power loss of Uggla.

 

The Marlins just need two guys at the top getting on base regularly. Infante and Morrison are the best options.

 

 

I'm not sure why you think Coghlan max's out at a .340ish .OBP.

 

If you're looking for the best two .OBP options at the top of the lineup not named Hanley, it should actually be Coghlan and Morrison, then. Infante is not really a "good" .OBP guy. If his fortunate .babip were to go down some, his .OBP #'s would be pretty mediocre.

 

Coghlan's always been a good .OBP guy. I think you're putting a little too much on his 2010 #'s. While he's not as good as 2009, he's not nearly as bad as 2010. He's always been a good .OBP guy with good K/BB ratios. I highly doubt we'll see Coghlan walking 33 times/striking out 87 times as he did last year, again.

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I don't think he'll max out at .340 OBP, but I think that will be a baseline with a +/- of .010, depending on the groove he's in. I'm open to being wrong about this. He's not as bad as he was in 2010, but he showed terrible ability to adjust to pitchers and the high strikeout rate was symptomatic of this. Until he shows signs of making the necessary adjustments, I don't see him being a +.360 OBP guy.

 

And Infante's career has undergone a bit of a transformation, looking at his peripherals. A lot of his OBP is owed to a respectable BABIP, but his K/BB rate really improved in Atlanta to coincide with that. I don't see him being necessarily better than Coghlan in terms of OBP, but his power ability is much lower of the three, which makes him suited for the top of the order unless that OBP really tanks. So I'm not really suggesting that the two best OBP guys be one and two without other considerations. However, I am receptive to the idea that Coghlan>Infante. I still contend that Morrison is best used at the top of the line-up though, which is my main point here.

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I understand the argument for having Morrison 5th/6th, but I prefer him 2nd. I expect him to have a good shot at a .370+ OBP.

And I think that Hanley, Stanton, Gaby, and John Buck provide enough power 3-6 such that we don't need Morrison to be a middle-of-the-lineup bat.

 

I'm glad someone else agrees.

 

Those are my feelings exactly.

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