Don't forget fella's, the Original Miami Marlins played there in the 50's I believe.

 

I had to look that one up because I didn't think you were right. The original Miami Marlins listed their home as Miami Stadium. But they did play at least one game at the Orange Bowl.

The Miami Marlins absolutely played in the Orange Bowl. Satchel Paige famously played there in front of over 57,000 fans, pitching for the Marlins.

And I Thought Sunlife was a bad place to play baseball, imagine playing there. Cool picture though.

If I'm not mistaken, this is from the aforementioned Satchel Paige game.

Pics or it didn't........oh, wait.

Great picture.

 

The distance down the right-field line to the fence is about 200 feet.

 

Assuming the rest of the outfield encompasses the entire rest of the field, the distance down the left-field-line would be 300' plus 30' of end-zone plus maybe another 15'. Total about 345'.

 

Assuming a rectangle 200' x 345', the deepest point in center field would be about 399' from home plate. Very small field.

 

And people think that Robbe-Dolphins-Landshark-Sun Life was bad.

Great picture.

 

The distance down the right-field line to the fence is about 200 feet.

 

Assuming the rest of the outfield encompasses the entire rest of the field, the distance down the left-field-line would be 300' plus 30' of end-zone plus maybe another 15'. Total about 345'.

 

Assuming a rectangle 200' x 345', the deepest point in center field would be about 399' from home plate. Very small field.

 

And people think that Robbe-Dolphins-Landshark-Sun Life was bad.

 

 

It does look awfully small. Especially down right field line. Scores must have been really high when games were played there.

If I'm not mistaken, this is from the aforementioned Satchel Paige game.

 

I think it most likely is too. There were very few baseball games played at the Orange Bowl from what I can gather. The filled stands is a good indication that it is the Paige game.

Great picture.

 

The distance down the right-field line to the fence is about 200 feet.

 

Assuming the rest of the outfield encompasses the entire rest of the field, the distance down the left-field-line would be 300' plus 30' of end-zone plus maybe another 15'. Total about 345'.

 

Assuming a rectangle 200' x 345', the deepest point in center field would be about 399' from home plate. Very small field.

 

And people think that Robbe-Dolphins-Landshark-Sun Life was bad.

 

 

It does look awfully small. Especially down right field line. Scores must have been really high when games were played there.

The LA Coliseum hosted a few games and was known for its odd baseball dimensions. I believe the distance there was actually a bit less absurd--something like 250 feet to left field with an even higher wall than at the Orange Bowl.

 

 

 

In this picture from an exhibition game held a couple of years ago, it looks like less than 250 feet to the naked eye and you even have 5 infielders:

One idea for remodelling the OB was to place home plate in the middle of the WEST end zone.

 

There would've been "cut-outs" in the stands down each line to make them reasonable (like about 310' each).

 

Didn't happen, but interesting nonetheless.

The LA Coliseum hosted more than just a few games, it was home field for the Dodgers until Dodgers stadium was built. Hard to imagine baseball being played there for 4 years

The Miami Marlins absolutely played in the Orange Bowl. Satchel Paige famously played there in front of over 57,000 fans, pitching for the Marlins.

 

Like I said, I actually looked it up. The article I read stated exactly what I said. There was only mention of one game being played there. The rest, as far as I can tell, were played elsewhere. So technically they did play at the Orange Bowl. But saying that in a generalized statement, to me, means that was their home field. And what I find contradicts that. If anyone can find something different then please share it. I'm always interested in history.

 

As far as I can tell, they played that game there because they were expecting a huge crowd. And at that time, it was the largest crowd ever for that conference. It would only make $$$ sense to move it to someplace that could hold that kind of turnout.

Great picture.

 

The distance down the right-field line to the fence is about 200 feet.

 

Assuming the rest of the outfield encompasses the entire rest of the field, the distance down the left-field-line would be 300' plus 30' of end-zone plus maybe another 15'. Total about 345'.

 

Assuming a rectangle 200' x 345', the deepest point in center field would be about 399' from home plate. Very small field.

 

And people think that Robbe-Dolphins-Landshark-Sun Life was bad.

 

 

It does look awfully small. Especially down right field line. Scores must have been really high when games were played there.

The LA Coliseum hosted a few games and was known for its odd baseball dimensions. I believe the distance there was actually a bit less absurd--something like 250 feet to left field with an even higher wall than at the Orange Bowl.

 

 

 

In this picture from an exhibition game held a couple of years ago, it looks like less than 250 feet to the naked eye and you even have 5 infielders:

 

 

 

Actually its more than a few games at the Coliseum. The Dodgers played all their home games there in 1958, 1959, 1960 and 1961. Dodger Stadium opened in 1962.

Great picture.

 

The distance down the right-field line to the fence is about 200 feet.

 

Assuming the rest of the outfield encompasses the entire rest of the field, the distance down the left-field-line would be 300' plus 30' of end-zone plus maybe another 15'. Total about 345'.

 

Assuming a rectangle 200' x 345', the deepest point in center field would be about 399' from home plate. Very small field.

 

And people think that Robbe-Dolphins-Landshark-Sun Life was bad.

 

 

It does look awfully small. Especially down right field line. Scores must have been really high when games were played there.

The LA Coliseum hosted a few games and was known for its odd baseball dimensions. I believe the distance there was actually a bit less absurd--something like 250 feet to left field with an even higher wall than at the Orange Bowl.

 

 

 

In this picture from an exhibition game held a couple of years ago, it looks like less than 250 feet to the naked eye and you even have 5 infielders:

 

 

 

Actually its more than a few games at the Coliseum. The Dodgers played all their home games there in 1958, 1959, 1960 and 1961. Dodger Stadium opened in 1962.

 

Ugh look at those dimensions... The dodgers probably didn't bother using a single lefty power hitter whenever they played there. Why bother? As for righties, imagine the fluke home runs bonifacio gets in a place like that... for that matter, thats the stadium Stanton needs to play in to easily reach 100 homers in a season.

Matter of fact... is there even a left fielder in that pic???

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghostoffire/sets/72157627570236051/

Matter of fact... is there even a left fielder in that pic???

 

Yeah, in the 2nd pic he's disguised as a SS. The SS and 2B are permanently playing a Ryan Howard-type "shift" regardless of who's hitting.

 

The estimate of a 250' LF line seems to be about right for the 1st pic, the aerial shot. In the 2nd pic, it looks to be between 180' and 200'. It's hard to tell exactly, there is a little fore-shortening going on in the picture.

 

Home plate is on one sideline of the football playing field. A US pro football field is 160' wide. Add the sideline area, 20, 30, 40', whatever it is on the other side, and there's the total. 180 to 200'. (About the same as the Orange Bowl setup.)

 

To reduce the effect of fore-shortening by looking at something further away in the pic, if you draw a line from the center of the pitching rubber, parallel to the LF line to the fence, you cross the widest part of the infield dirt. It's about 47.2' from the center of the rubber to a line running from 2B to 3B (by simple geometry.) The edge of the dirt is 3' inside that line (by MLB rule) making it 44.2' to the dirt from the rubber. It's 95' to the edge of the outfield grass (by MLB rule.)

 

So we know the widest part of the relatively far-away (from the camera) infield dirt is 50.8'.

 

Remember that, all you future shortstops. Dirt is important.

 

:lol

 

Looking at the maximum width of the dirt and comparing it to the width of the grass to the fence, it appears to be about the same, or about 51 feet. The LF fence drops off a little from the foul pole, maybe 10' as it follows the curvature of the stands.

 

90' to 3B plus ~100' to the fence, minus the drop-off from the LF pole makes the LF line about 180', plus 2 or 3', fore-shortening can't be entirely eliminated. 5% of 50' for something in mid-ground would jibe with the light standards in the foreground appearing to be 10% larger in the pic than the same-size light standards in the background on the far side of the field.

 

In any case, it's clear why the guy in LF plays a deep SS.

 

Worse is the RF line, where they had plenty of room. There is less fore-shortening going on, but the RF foul pole looks to be 260-270'. The fence immediately drops off another 20-30', call it 280-300' just off the RF foul pole.

 

At most, that would be a rectangle roughly 200' x 300', making the deepest CF dimension about 360'. But deepest, darkest CF isn't even that deep, they angled the fence, the whole thing is a weird semi-trapezoid with a curved side. Could have been as little as 310', barely more than the 280-300' just off the RF line.

 

They chopped off a lot of potential playing surface in the interest of seating. And no elevated LF fence. Talk about a band-box, the Coliseum's baseball field in the 2nd pic wasn't much larger than a softball field.

Boy, did they ever chop off a lot of playing surface in the interest of seating. Imagine that.

 

Other than a few degrees of rotation in baseball field orientation (counter-clockwise) within the stadium from pic 1 to pic 2, which resulted in RF being less chopped-off near the foul pole and accounts for maybe 10' of the reduced LF line in the pic 2, here's what happened that made the major difference between the two pics:

 

Before the '93 football season the Coliseum did a renovation that lowered the field by 11 feet and added 14 rows of seats all the way around the field. Which replaced the running track, bringing the first row of seats closer to the playing field by 50-60'.

 

Total change: 60-70'.

 

Which explains how a ~250' LF line gets turned into ~180-190'.

Great picture.

 

The distance down the right-field line to the fence is about 200 feet.

 

Assuming the rest of the outfield encompasses the entire rest of the field, the distance down the left-field-line would be 300' plus 30' of end-zone plus maybe another 15'. Total about 345'.

 

Assuming a rectangle 200' x 345', the deepest point in center field would be about 399' from home plate. Very small field.

 

And people think that Robbe-Dolphins-Landshark-Sun Life was bad.

 

 

It does look awfully small. Especially down right field line. Scores must have been really high when games were played there.

The LA Coliseum hosted a few games and was known for its odd baseball dimensions. I believe the distance there was actually a bit less absurd--something like 250 feet to left field with an even higher wall than at the Orange Bowl.

 

 

 

In this picture from an exhibition game held a couple of years ago, it looks like less than 250 feet to the naked eye and you even have 5 infielders:

 

 

 

Actually its more than a few games at the Coliseum. The Dodgers played all their home games there in 1958, 1959, 1960 and 1961. Dodger Stadium opened in 1962.

 

Ugh look at those dimensions... The dodgers probably didn't bother using a single lefty power hitter whenever they played there. Why bother? As for righties, imagine the fluke home runs bonifacio gets in a place like that... for that matter, thats the stadium Stanton needs to play in to easily reach 100 homers in a season.

 

Ah, never mind. Got it.

No, he means lefties. Righties pull to left field, which is the one with the terrible dimensions. I assume he's talking about the park pictured above where they practically don't have a left field.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghostoffire/sets/72157627570236051/

 

 

Wow. Lmao @ the last few pictures. I'd sell my house if I were those people. That's going to be terrible.

Those are some amazing pictures. Post before me is right, you literally have a residential area right across the street from the stadium, thats not good.

I know a bunch of people that say that the new stadium looks like a space ship but seriously, I think it looks beautiful. I can't wait to watch a game there.

Am I the only one that's gets a big black box from kcellis post?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ghostoffire/sets/72157627570236051/

Wow. Lmao @ the last few pictures. I'd sell my house if I were those people. That's going to be terrible.

I remember a couple of houses from our last trip to the area. They can easily be sold/bought for commercial developement. But from what I recall, most of that residential area is apartment buldings. Gonna be a little harder to get them to move all those low income families out.