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Hindsight: signing Heath Bell

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I would actually say I was very wrong about Bell. I did not think it would be so disastrous.

I would actually say I was very wrong about Bell. I did not think it would be so disastrous.

No sane person thought he would suck this hard.

 

I really hope he can lose some weight this offseason- if not for his career but for his future. He's going to need to pass a physical when we cut him.

His weight has nothing to do with it.

 

HE is fat and ugly.

 

His weight will help him somewhat- if not pitching- Atleast when he's putting the screws to his wife.

 

Side note- check out his DLHQ interview from February. Kind of funny at the end.

His weight has nothing to do with it.

 

Losing some weight could be a good weigh way to earn back some of his teammates' respect, since he has said that he's lost that.

I would actually say I was very wrong about Bell. I did not think it would be so disastrous.

 

 

Well that's not what I was talking about. But you were onto him and his poor pitching away from home, and you were obviously onto the idea of avoiding a big contract relief pitcher.

 

I honestly didn't care because I thought for sure he'd work out to some extent. I thought there was somewhat of a guarantee with him. I guess not.

Can we get Bell to do this?

 

that would be INCREDIBLE to say the least

 

Props to that guy for having mad honor

 

Of course he has honor. He's Japanese. :p

I'm surprised he didn't commit sepukku in the middle of the baseball diamond for his poor play.

I would actually say I was very wrong about Bell. I did not think it would be so disastrous.

 

 

Well that's not what I was talking about. But you were onto him and his poor pitching away from home, and you were obviously onto the idea of avoiding a big contract relief pitcher.

 

I honestly didn't care because I thought for sure he'd work out to some extent. I thought there was somewhat of a guarantee with him. I guess not.

 

I actually said something along the lines of it's probably not the best use of money, but he's been really consistent and I didn't care because it seemed like it wasn't going to prevent other signings.

I never really understood that mindset.

 

The Bell signing might not have been the reason why the Marlins didn't land CJ Wilson, but in the end every dollar spent has consequences and ramifications. The money wasted on a closer could have been used to fill depth elsewhere, despite not being a flashy free agent name like Wilson. Or they could have simply saved the money and not spent it at all.

 

If you haven't noticed, the Marlins are planning on scaling back payroll because revenue did not meet expectations. How nice would it be to not have to pay another $9 million for Bell in 2013?

 

I basically think that whenever the team does use money inefficiently, you should care because while those decisions might not have plainly visible effects, they do have consequences and place constraints upon the team.

 

Every dollar misspent will have negative consequences in some shape or form.

I never really understood that mindset.

 

The Bell signing might not have been the reason why the Marlins didn't land CJ Wilson, but in the end every dollar spent has consequences and ramifications. The money wasted on a closer could have been used to fill depth elsewhere, despite not being a flashy free agent name like Wilson. Or they could have simply saved the money and not spent it at all.

 

If you haven't noticed, the Marlins are planning on scaling back payroll because revenue did not meet expectations. How nice would it be to not have to pay another $9 million for Bell in 2013?

 

I basically think that whenever the team does use money inefficiently, you should care because while those decisions might not have plainly visible effects, they do have consequences and place constraints upon the team.

 

Every dollar misspent will have negative consequences in some shape or form.

 

 

You do realize the Marlins offered 20+ Million more then the Angels in a last gasp effort to sign Wilson, and it failed right?

 

Bells 9 Mil had no consequence on their offseason plans. The team underperformed like crazy, and Bells 9 Mil had nothign to do with it.

 

Like Onley said at one point "Loria is willing to sign anybody because all it costs is money, not prospects"

Looks like your reading comprehension is lacking. I'm saying that Bell had nothing to do with Wilson, but at the same time that money could have been spent elsewhere more efficiently or better yet--saved for later, which would have made the cost-cutting for 2013 more palatable.

 

If these types of signings had no consequences, the Marlins wouldn't be needing to scale back payroll for next season.

Looks like your reading comprehension is lacking. I'm saying that Bell had nothing to do with Wilson, but at the same time that money could have been spent elsewhere more efficiently or better yet--saved for later, which would have made the cost-cutting for 2013 more palatable.

 

If these types of signings had no consequences, the Marlins wouldn't be needing to scale back payroll for next season.

 

 

I know what you said, jackass. I was simply pointing out Bells money had no effect on the massive contract they tried to bestow upon Wilson or what the next payrolls going to be.

 

And as far as scaling back payroll, I don't believe it as much as one should. I can't seem to wrap my head around Loria just giving up on building a contender while still having players like Reyes, Buerhle, Johnson on the payroll.

 

When those players leave, then I'm scared about salary cuts.

 

If he has a 70 win team and a 118 million payroll, why wouldn't he cut it back as far as he could and get the same results.

 

I see Loria adding to the payroll to be quite honest.

And as far as scaling back payroll, I don't believe it as much as one should. I can't seem to wrap my head around Loria just giving up on building a contender while still having players like Reyes, Buerhle, Johnson on the payroll.

 

When those players leave, then I'm scared about salary cuts.

 

If he has a 70 win team and a 118 million payroll, why wouldn't he cut it back as far as he could and get the same results.

 

I see Loria adding to the payroll to be quite honest.

 

 

That's why I wouldn't be shocked if they traded Johnson and/or Reyes this offseason. Loria learned in 2012 that putting a bunch of money into the team doesn't automatically mean success. He took a gamble and it failed. It's probably back to budget baseball in 2013.

Reyes is going nowhere.

 

Payroll may drop but it won't be a huge drop.

 

 

Plus I mean.. he's kinda the Hanley replacement.

 

How did we not all see that coming...

I actually said something along the lines of it's probably not the best use of money, but he's been really consistent and I didn't care because it seemed like it wasn't going to prevent other signings.

 

 

Jesus, f*** Erick just take the f***ing compliment you snotnosed little brat.

 

 

 

 

#jk

The disaster outings of bell really hurt the momentum of the team there is no doubt about that. Has he done his job we would be maybe 10 games better.

 

However, I also believe the season began to go south when the team refused to ever wear the orange hat. This is the truth.

 

By the way, can someone, like Admin, email Samson and ask him what the eff is up with that one? Please.

was listening to Ozzie on the radio today, LeBatard is one of those who thinks they'll find a trade partner for JJ in the offseason but the other team will have to take Bell as part of the deal.

 

 

So basically we won't get much if anything back in trade.

Heath Bell was named the NL Cy Yuk award winner by ESPN and Jason Stark.

 

In equally hilarious and related news, the ENTIRE Miami Marlins team was named the NL LVP in the same article. They do give props to Stanton, Buerhle, and Ruggiano.

was listening to Ozzie on the radio today, LeBatard is one of those who thinks they'll find a trade partner for JJ in the offseason but the other team will have to take Bell as part of the deal.

 

 

I would absolutely love it if the Marlins were able to do that this offseason.

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