I like Ozuna so much but I'm kind of concerned about his ability to hit the dinger. I like his high average and good defense but the corner outfields have to supply power to the lineup. Do you think he will start to hit a few balls out when he is use to MLB pitching? If yes what do you guys think his ceiling could be? Out of my corner outfields I want to see at least 30 home runs. Same for my 3 rd basemen and 1 st basemen. The rest of the table setters need to get on base. With that being said how many taters could Ozuna have potential for in a full time year do you think?

I like Ozuna so much but I'm kind of concerned about his ability to hit the dinger. I like his high average and good defense but the corner outfields have to supply power to the lineup. Do you think he will start to hit a few balls out when he is use to MLB pitching? If yes what do you guys think his ceiling could be? Out of my corner outfields I want to see at least 30 home runs. Same for my 3 rd basemen and 1 st basemen. The rest of the table setters need to get on base. With that being said how many taters could Ozuna have potential for in a full time year do you think?

 

 

Ozuna will hit more homers when he has better protection in the lineup. I like this version of Ozuna anyway -- hitting for high average and hitting w/ RISP. The power will come. You obviously don't watch Ozuna, because he hits the ball hard almost every time.

This might be the first reasonable post you have made.

I like Ozuna so much but I'm kind of concerned about his ability to hit the dinger. I like his high average and good defense but the corner outfields have to supply power to the lineup. Do you think he will start to hit a few balls out when he is use to MLB pitching? If yes what do you guys think his ceiling could be? Out of my corner outfields I want to see at least 30 home runs. Same for my 3 rd basemen and 1 st basemen. The rest of the table setters need to get on base. With that being said how many taters could Ozuna have potential for in a full time year do you think?

 

Ozuna will hit more homers when he has better protection in the lineup. I like this version of Ozuna anyway -- hitting for high average and hitting w/ RISP. The power will come. You obviously don't watch Ozuna, because he hits the ball hard almost every time.He hits it hard but not a lot of them are in the air so he just hits alot of singles and doubles. If he is going to be a guy who only hits 5 to 10 ddingers a year maybe we should move him to CF?

Who the fuck cares where our power comes from as long as it's there. Our 2b has power, our cf will have moderate power, our 1b does as well. I prefer Ozuna to get on base

Out of my corner outfields I want to see at least 30 home runs. Same for my 3 rd basemen and 1 st basemen.

 

 

Only 27 guys in all of MLB hit 30+ homers last year. That's less than 1 per team. By my count, no team last year had more than 2 guys. There's almost no chance a team gets 30+ homers from all of RF, LF, 1B, and 3B. I'm not saying power isn't important, just that those are unduly high expectations.

And he just double to right center. Another foot or so from a homer.

And he just double to right center. Another foot or so from a homer.

 

 

The guy can hit w/ RISP. How many players have we had besides Miggy and 2009 Hanley can we say could consistently hit with guys on base?

Out of my corner outfields I want to see at least 30 home runs. Same for my 3 rd basemen and 1 st basemen.

 

 

Only 27 guys in all of MLB hit 30+ homers last year. That's less than 1 per team. By my count, no team last year had more than 2 guys. There's almost no chance a team gets 30+ homers from all of RF, LF, 1B, and 3B. I'm not saying power isn't important, just that those are unduly high expectations.

 

 

But there is a chance from a Jacobs-Uggla-Hanley-Cantu infield

Also, a third of his hits are for extra bases. Power doesn't just come from homers.

Also, a third of his hits are for extra bases. Power doesn't just come from homers.

 

 

This X100. Ozuna's playing at an all star level in his first month and a half in the majors without hitting home runs. Marlins Park is damn hard to hit a home run in, and he's getting plenty of XBH's.

 

I read something recently that mentioned that he's not hitting the ball as far as he did in the minors, something like an average of 250 feet per fly ball compared to 300+ for Ruggiano and Stanton. Power long term is definitely a necessary component for Ozuna to be successful, as it's extremely, extremely likely his current style of production isn't sustainable.

 

However, until he returns to not being able to hit for singles and doubles, I'm not going to worry too much about his power. He's the best hitter currently in the lineup. He's the last thing I'm worried about.

lol. the troll is trolling

Also, a third of his hits are for extra bases. Power doesn't just come from homers.

 

 

That's about MLB average, though. I'd definitely like to see more home runs from him.

Also, a third of his hits are for extra bases. Power doesn't just come from homers.

 

 

That's about MLB average, though. I'd definitely like to see more home runs from him.

 

 

He's 23. He's had like 140 mlb AB and has done a damn fine job. The power will come.

Maybe if the ballpark wasn't so gigantic, he'd have about a handful of HR's.

 

The power will be there when the 2.9 HR/FB% comes back to reality. Just like his average is going to go down once his .422 .BABIP comes down. It'll even out.

Also, a third of his hits are for extra bases. Power doesn't just come from homers.

 

 

That's about MLB average, though. I'd definitely like to see more home runs from him.

 

 

He's 23. He's had like 140 mlb AB and has done a damn fine job. The power will come.

 

 

 

 

I do expect the home run rate to increase eventually. I'm saying that his numbers right now don't necessarily reflect much power from sources outside of home runs.

Maybe if the ballpark wasn't so gigantic, he'd have about a handful of HR's.

 

The power will be there when the 2.9 HR/FB% comes back to reality. Just like his average is going to go down once his .422 .BABIP comes down. It'll even out.

 

 

yea hes hit a few that would be out elsewhere and his double today wen off the wall to right center.

Maybe if the ballpark wasn't so gigantic, he'd have about a handful of HR's.

 

The power will be there when the 2.9 HR/FB% comes back to reality. Just like his average is going to go down once his .422 .BABIP comes down. It'll even out.

 

 

I wouldn't necessarily say that the HR/FB rate right now is pure anomaly or a consequence of playing in a large park. He's ranked 259 out of 271 on the avg. fly ball distance (252 feet) leaderboard, which places him in the bottom 5% in MLB.

Maybe if the ballpark wasn't so gigantic, he'd have about a handful of HR's.

 

The power will be there when the 2.9 HR/FB% comes back to reality. Just like his average is going to go down once his .422 .BABIP comes down. It'll even out.

 

 

I wouldn't necessarily say that the HR/FB rate right now is pure anomaly or a consequence of playing in a large park. He's ranked 259 out of 271 on the avg. fly ball distance (252 feet) leaderboard.

 

 

Playing in any other ballpark, this wouldn't be a thread. Marlins Park has robbed him of at least a couple of HR's this year.

 

I feel like his high average has people thinking that he's changed his approach, but he really hasn't. I'm more worried about his approach at the plate than I am about his power.

It's easy to say that about the park, but that's a rather subjective observation to make about balls that "should have been" home runs.

 

The average fly ball distance pretty definitively suggests that the low HR/FB rate is more Ozuna than outside factors (like park). Again, I think that the home run numbers will increase at some point, but I don't think you can fairly say that the park has been the main culprit so far.

He had some games at Citizens Bank also where he hit balls that could've went out the park

At least Derek Dietrich is hitting for good power.

It's easy to say that about the park, but that's a rather subjective observation to make about balls that "should have been" home runs.

 

The average fly ball distance pretty definitively suggests that the low HR/FB rate is more Ozuna than outside factors (like park). Again, I think that the home run numbers will increase at some point, but I don't think you can fairly say that the park has been the main culprit so far.

 

 

I don't think it's subjective to watch a game and say a player would've had a HR in just about any other park if he hits a ball 400+ ft. and it doesn't go out.

 

The ball he hit against Aroldis Chapman the night Chapman blew the save here is just one example.

It's easy to say that about the park, but that's a rather subjective observation to make about balls that "should have been" home runs.

 

The average fly ball distance pretty definitively suggests that the low HR/FB rate is more Ozuna than outside factors (like park). Again, I think that the home run numbers will increase at some point, but I don't think you can fairly say that the park has been the main culprit so far.

 

 

I don't think it's subjective to watch a game and say a player would've had a HR in just about any other park if he hits a ball 400+ ft. and it doesn't go out.

 

The ball he hit against Aroldis Chapman the night Chapman blew the save here is just one example.

 

 

It's basically Broncobob "what my eyes tell me" logic. You have no way of reliably estimating what should have been a home run in an average MLB park. I also suspect that the occurrences of robbed home runs are more infrequent than you think they are.

 

There's actually a mathematical correlation with avg. fly ball distance. That's a much more reliable evaluation than your "eyes."

It's easy to say that about the park, but that's a rather subjective observation to make about balls that "should have been" home runs.

 

The average fly ball distance pretty definitively suggests that the low HR/FB rate is more Ozuna than outside factors (like park). Again, I think that the home run numbers will increase at some point, but I don't think you can fairly say that the park has been the main culprit so far.

 

 

I don't think it's subjective to watch a game and say a player would've had a HR in just about any other park if he hits a ball 400+ ft. and it doesn't go out.

 

The ball he hit against Aroldis Chapman the night Chapman blew the save here is just one example.

 

 

It's basically Broncobob "what my eyes tell me" logic. You have no way of reliably estimating what should have been a home run in an average MLB park. I also suspect that the occurrences of robbed home runs are more infrequent than you think they are.

 

There's actually a mathematical correlation with avg. fly ball distance. That's a much more reliable evaluation than your "eyes."

 

 

 

 

The reason for this thread is because he only has 1 HR. My point is that he'd have more than 1 HR if not for the ballpark. I'm sure you believe in park factors. A ball that hits the wall in CF at Marlins Park is gone in many other ballparks/stadiums. A ball that is caught at the warning track at Marlins Park is gone in many other ballparks/stadiums. It's really not a BroncoBob Spring Training observation; it's fact based on the dimensions of many other stadiums.

 

I'm not disputing average flyball distance. I'm just saying that there have been specific instances in which he's simply hit a ball in the wrong ballpark at the time.