December 6, 201312 yr Author I'm kinda confused as to why people are so upset about this. Yeah, the lineup isn't amazing, it's not a world-beater lineup, but it's improving. I don't see how. Furcal is terrible. He doesn't improve this team, defensively or offensively. I just don't see how you sign Saltalamacchia then go out and sign Furcal. Furcal has never been a bad hitter and he's been a gold glove defender. I don't get this at all? Look up his numbers. I'm not sure what to tell you if you don't see it. I see a player that would have been an average major league second baseman if we go by his 2012 numbers. And the options at third base were not exciting. That's obviously why they went this route. Average? He had a 1.2 WAR with BR and a lower WAR with Fangraphs. That would have fared better than Jose Altuve or Aaron Hill last year... I'm not sure what you're saying here but OK. Those are "All-Star" second basemen. Aaron Hill is a bad player. Altuve is a bad player. Furcal is a bad player. What do you not understand?? No they aren't.
December 6, 201312 yr Well Hill isn't a bad player, but Altuve is arguably a slightly better version of Hechavarria and Furcal is 36 and forced to sign with a bottom feeder team for an incentive laden, one year deal.
December 6, 201312 yr Yea, I underestimated Hill. But Furcal and Altuve are bad. I don't want bad baseball players starting here.
December 6, 201312 yr Author As I said before, at least we get to watch Hech and Furcal turn two. That will be fun.
December 6, 201312 yr As I said before, at least we get to watch Hech and Furcal turn two. That will be fun. If you mean hit into double plays, then yes.
December 6, 201312 yr As I said before, at least we get to watch Hech and Furcal turn two. That will be fun. If you mean hit into double plays, then yes. Triple plays. Breaking New Ground.
December 6, 201312 yr So average that lineup is but I'm kind of happy with the low expectations. Only way to go is up.
December 6, 201312 yr So average that lineup is but I'm kind of happy with the low expectations. Only way to go is up. Kinda feel the same way. 2012 was awful because we had high expectations. We know not to expect anything next season at least.
December 6, 201312 yr As I said before, at least we get to watch Hech and Furcal turn two. That will be fun. If you mean hit into double plays, then yes. Triple plays. Breaking New Ground.Tie goes to the runner!
December 6, 201312 yr I really hope they don't sign Uribe to anything more than a 1 or 2 year deal. Who really believes he's going to repeat last season, or even half of that, for the remainder of the contract. If he's a 2 WAR player 2 years from now, I would be surprised.
December 6, 201312 yr Too bad Coghlan won't be around anymore to put all of the hitters in the lineup in their natural places.
December 6, 201312 yr 1. Yelich 2. Furcal 3. Youkilis 4. Stanton 5. Saltalamacchia 6. Ruggiano platooning with either Garrett Jones or Jason Kubel 7. Morrison 8. Hechavarria Ozuna and Dietrich in AAA at the start of the season.
December 6, 201312 yr Author Too bad Coghlan won't be around anymore to put all of the hitters in the lineup in their natural places. That's what Furcal is for silly.
December 6, 201312 yr You left me with the impression that only Chris Coghlan could have that weight on his shoulders.
December 6, 201312 yr 1. Yelich 2. Furcal 3. Youkilis 4. Stanton 5. Saltalamacchia 6. Ruggiano platooning with either Garrett Jones or Jason Kubel 7. Morrison 8. Hechavarria Ozuna and Dietrich in AAA at the start of the season. Ozuna will be in the majors
December 6, 201312 yr 1. Yelich 2. Furcal 3. Youkilis 4. Stanton 5. Saltalamacchia 6. Ruggiano platooning with either Garrett Jones or Jason Kubel 7. Morrison 8. Hechavarria Ozuna and Dietrich in AAA at the start of the season. Ozuna will be in the majors I wouldn't be so sure about that. He started like a ball of fire until the pitchers got a book on him.
December 6, 201312 yr I'm fine with Ozuna in the Majors or back in AA/AAA. Either works for me. However, this Jones signing kinda puts a damper on my lineup idea. :lol
December 7, 201312 yr I believe Furcal will bat 1st If you look at his career....Furcal has led off about 90% of the games he has started.
December 7, 201312 yr I believe Furcal will bat 1st If you look at his career....Furcal has led off about 90% of the games he has started. I was thinking this too, not so much for Furcal but for how it should put Yelich in a better spot in the order.
December 7, 201312 yr Author I believe Furcal will bat 1st If you look at his career....Furcal has led off about 90% of the games he has started. I was thinking this too, not so much for Furcal but for how it should put Yelich in a better spot in the order. I think at this point Yelich should be leading off, give him as many AB's as humanly possible. Furcal hit leadoff most of his career as an elite player, which he no longer is. However he doesn't K much, he's a switch hitter, and an excellent bunter with good speed. All these things point to a productive #2 hitter.
December 7, 201312 yr I believe Furcal will bat 1st If you look at his career....Furcal has led off about 90% of the games he has started. I was thinking this too, not so much for Furcal but for how it should put Yelich in a better spot in the order. I think at this point Yelich should be leading off, give him as many AB's as humanly possible. Furcal hit leadoff most of his career as an elite player, which he no longer is. However he doesn't K much, he's a switch hitter, and an excellent bunter with good speed. All these things point to a productive #2 hitter. It looks like we finally agree on something Wild Card.
December 7, 201312 yr I believe Furcal will bat 1st If you look at his career....Furcal has led off about 90% of the games he has started. I was thinking this too, not so much for Furcal but for how it should put Yelich in a better spot in the order. I think at this point Yelich should be leading off, give him as many AB's as humanly possible. Furcal hit leadoff most of his career as an elite player, which he no longer is. However he doesn't K much, he's a switch hitter, and an excellent bunter with good speed. All these things point to a productive #2 hitter. You are leaving out the main ingredient--he doesn't get on base much anymore. He put up a .314 OBP in his last two seasons of play. His speed is also a fraction of what it used to be. At this point he's more of a true bottom of the order hitter, not a productive number 2 hitter.
December 7, 201312 yr Author I believe Furcal will bat 1st If you look at his career....Furcal has led off about 90% of the games he has started. I was thinking this too, not so much for Furcal but for how it should put Yelich in a better spot in the order. I think at this point Yelich should be leading off, give him as many AB's as humanly possible. Furcal hit leadoff most of his career as an elite player, which he no longer is. However he doesn't K much, he's a switch hitter, and an excellent bunter with good speed. All these things point to a productive #2 hitter. You are leaving out the main ingredient--he doesn't get on base much anymore. He put up a .314 OBP in his last two seasons of play. His speed is also a fraction of what it used to be. At this point he's more of a true bottom of the order hitter, not a productive number 2 hitter. He's the best thing we have.
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