AeroFishOne Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Halfway through spring training. How does everyone see the bench positions playing out. I haven't gotten to watch or listen to many games but seems to me Brignac is doing pretty good from what I have been seeing. How does everyone see it going down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 If Hech's shoulder hasn't healed, I'd assume Brignac makes the team. Otherwise, despite more talent in guys like Kelly, Sizemore, Dietrich, and Rojas, AAA players like Valdespin, Solano, and 2015 Reed Johnson will probably be on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I doubt Reed Johnson makes the team because he hasn't had the spring he had last year and he's just not as needed as he was a year ago with Ichiro and other veterans on the team and with the utility infielder spots being valued a bit more this year. Also, I hate to be this guy, but I did start a thread to discuss these kinds of spring questions. No hate, just sayin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Also, I hate to be this guy, but I did start a thread to discuss these kinds of spring questions. No hate, just sayin. I'm a fan of separate threads rather than one big one personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Brignac will likely grab one unless he drops dead these last two weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Also, I hate to be this guy, but I did start a thread to discuss these kinds of spring questions. No hate, just sayin. I'm a fan of separate threads rather than one big one personally. Coulda fooled me, I heard you loved the big ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Brignac will likely grab one unless he drops dead these last two weeks. Soooo....you're totally suspect #1 if Brignac is found dead, you know.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Brignac will likely grab one unless he drops dead these last two weeks. Would you really be surprised if they gave that spot to Rojas? If Hech is not 100% I would be extremely surprised if he wasn't their guy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Rojas is too void of offense to replace Hech. Rojas would only make this team as a defensive replacement. I don't think even the Marlins make him the starting shortstop after Hech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Rojas is too void of offense to replace Hech. Rojas would only make this team as a defensive replacement. I don't think even the Marlins make him the starting shortstop after Hech. Rojas had essentially the same value (0.5 fWAR to 0.6 fWAR) as Hech in 2014. Granted, the more plate appearances Rojas gets, the more it affects his WAR negatively, but then again the more fielding chances he gets, the more it affects his WAR positively. However, and this is BIG coming from me guys, so take a seat: Hech has way more offensive upside than Rojas. Right now, they are probably equally as valuable, but Hech has a much higher ceiling and should therefore be given yet another chance to improve. If Rojas could hit, even just a little? I would give him the job. Unfortunately, he basically comes up to bat with a tennis racket that has no strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 It's worth noting that Reid Brignac is also terrible. I really wouldn't care if they gave Rojas the spot over him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Give it to D. Solano!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Give it to D. Solano!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miamii580 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 They have four or five bench spots depending on how many pitchers they carry. I would think they need to go with five bench spots and carry 12 pitchers. Mathis and Suzuki are locks. I think Baker is as well because of his contract. That leaves two spots. I think it's Solano and Valdespin based on versatility. Love the starting lineup, but, our late inning pinch hitting options are going to be brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I say go with Rojas and Bour/Dietrich over Solano and Valdespin. Rojas can play all over the infield as a defensive replacement late if needed and Bour/Dietrich gives a power lefty option off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I actually hope they carry 13 pitchers. The extra pitcher in the pen would be better than carrying the 25th man on the bench likely to be a scrub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miamii580 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I prefer Bour/Dietrich as well. Just don't know if they will go that route. Both of those guys can continue to get at bats in AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bret Hart Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 If DD can handle at 1st, my pick is DD and Brignac. But, in this case, there is a lack of righty bench option (except Baker), so DD and Solano option can be possible, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Ichiro, Mathis, Baker, and pick a scrub. Seriously, no real need for anyone else. Carry an extra pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastieMike Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Ichiro, Mathis, Baker, and pick a scrub. Seriously, no real need for anyone else. Carry an extra pitcher. Valdespinga? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsLou Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Ichiro, Mathis, Baker, and pick a scrub. Seriously, no real need for anyone else. Carry an extra pitcher. You need guys in the NL for day to day management. I think Solano is a lock based on last year, and the last spot they'll give to Kelly/Brignac/other veteran who gets hot and has a good camp. Dietrich, Bour, and Valdespin should get everyday PA in AAA. See if anything is there. They can always come up and replace someone in the summer. Maybe they keep a 13th pitcher initially just because they may not want to DFA one of Hand/McKirahan, but ultimately they are just going to need the position bodies and a 5 man bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Rojas, Dietrich, and Bour sent down. There goes the thought of Rojas' defense winning out. He'll have his use later but his lack of a bat hurts him for now. Dietrich again hits the glass ceiling but with so many bench options this spring, he might not have been the best candidate for a spot regardless. Bour wasn't likely to make the club out of spring but he'll contribute later on as well. So we're down to Solano, Kelly, Brignac, Valdespin, and Sizemore for now. If they want a 5th outfielder its from Johnson, Colvin, or Gillespie, none of which have really stood out, making it more likely that they carry two of the above infielders with one being Kelly or Valdespin for their outfield work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsLou Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Rojas, Dietrich, and Bour sent down. There goes the thought of Rojas' defense winning out. He'll have his use later but his lack of a bat hurts him for now. Dietrich again hits the glass ceiling but with so many bench options this spring, he might not have been the best candidate for a spot regardless. Bour wasn't likely to make the club out of spring but he'll contribute later on as well. So we're down to Solano, Kelly, Brignac, Valdespin, and Sizemore for now. If they want a 5th outfielder its from Johnson, Colvin, or Gillespie, none of which have really stood out, making it more likely that they carry two of the above infielders with one being Kelly or Valdespin for their outfield work. Prado is the 5th OF. They should carry more IF options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Don Kelly and Jordany Valdespin are both bad at baseball, compared to their peers. Don Kelly seems like a good human being and had a huge fan following in Detroit. Jordany Valdespin is human garbage and teammates hated him when he was a Met. Neither should really be on a Major League roster, but if one of them makes it for versatility reasons, why not the one who isn't a diarrhea person? Character clause, bitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Don Kelly and Jordany Valdespin are both bad at baseball, compared to their peers. Don Kelly seems like a good human being and had a huge fan following in Detroit. Jordany Valdespin is human garbage and teammates hated him when he was a Met. Neither should really be on a Major League roster, but if one of them makes it for versatility reasons, why not the one who isn't a diarrhea person? Character clause, bitches. Well said but the counter argument is that Valdespin was diarrhea in the Mets organization. Nothing has pointed to him being disliked in Miami. With the front office and coaching staff emphasizing the team first mentality the last couple of seasons, if Valdespin was clubhouse diarrhea here he'd already be gone especially considering how many options we have besides him. (I never thought I'd use the word diarrhea so many times in one post) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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