He was being sarcastic babe

 

YEAH WELL SO WAS I AND BENDER IS STUPIDER

 

 

Valdespin is a career .218/.273/.372 hitter and he is below average defensively at every position he plays. 

 

What exactly do you like about Valdespin? Because this is kind of like saying "I love anal bleeding. Penis seepage is just meh".

 

You are one sick dude. 

 

 

I think you all may have missed something here.

 

Keeping him down probably 25 days will knock his service time out of Super2 land. They'll save $2.5 million next year.

 

The organization can calculate this pretty accurately at this point tracking every teams service time, so I wouldn't expect him back until it's clear he won't be arbitration eligible. Based on the dates, August 1 seems about right. 

 

I like it because he sucks right now, but I also like shedding payroll in the hopes they go after an ace SP next year. Every bit is going to help.

 

 

And as you said on that other link, it's not just $ next year. This is huge savings in his future arbitration throughout his club control. Super 2's make more because they have 4 times through arbitration instead of 3.

 

It's a smart move because he's not doing good anyway (so very unlikely any kind of suit against the Marlins) and we're not going anywhere this year anyway, and it's a move that saves something like 5-7m total.

 

 

The Marlins would be idiots to let Ozuna become a Super 2 because he isn't that good and doesn't deserve it. So it's not a silly "Loria being cheap scenario; it's a smart baseball move.

 

 

it's not a silly "Loria being cheap scenario; it's a smart baseball move.

 

ummm I believe those are on in the same. I read a sweet article about how the Blue Jays trade was BRILLIANT

 

 

There are none.

 

maybe someone from A ball?

 

 

Justin Twine, but that's about it.

 

 

MarlinsLou, I love the enthusiasm, but you and I both know that money isn't going into buying an ace in the offseason.

 

But honestly it doesn't hurt to send Ozuna down right now for money reasons. Seasons lost anyway so why not save a few bucks down the road. Plus it gives us more Morse YAY

 

 

Eh I dunno about *ace* money but seems a pretty deep FA pitching group next season, particularly if Cosart doesn't get it together they'll go get a good starter to pair with Jose and Alvarez.  We'll have to see what happens with Latos.

 

 

MarlinsLou, I love the enthusiasm, but you and I both know that money isn't going into buying an ace in the offseason.

 

But honestly it doesn't hurt to send Ozuna down right now for money reasons. Seasons lost anyway so why not save a few bucks down the road. Plus it gives us more Morse YAY

 

Likely not, but they can.

 

It's the same train of thought - nothing changes until Loria goes. There is no reason they shouldn't have a $100 million payroll next year.

 

 

This is putting the organizational depth on display front and center. As bad as Ozuna was at the plate, I cringe at the replacement options.

 

But wait, Dan Jennings and Mike Hill are amazing.....12 years of......oops failures  :ohmy

 

 

I think you all may have missed something here.

 

Keeping him down probably 25 days will knock his service time out of Super2 land. They'll save $2.5 million next year.

 

The organization can calculate this pretty accurately at this point tracking every teams service time, so I wouldn't expect him back until it's clear he won't be arbitration eligible. Based on the dates, August 1 seems about right. 

 

I like it because he sucks right now, but I also like shedding payroll in the hopes they go after an ace SP next year. Every bit is going to help.

 

Delusional.....

 

 

YEAH It is totally Loria's fault that Ozuna's effectiveness went down!

 

Loria owns the team, and picks the people, who pick the players. So yes, it's partially on him.

 

 

YEAH It is totally Loria's fault that Ozuna's effectiveness went down!

 

Well by marlins logic Redmond was the reason all our shitty players sucked (Latos, Cosart, Cishek, Morse) so we can then surmise through that that Jennings is responsible for Ozuna sucking, no? I guess we have to give credit for to Jennings for Yelich's turn around then tho. 

 

 

Loria owns the team, and picks the people, who pick the players. So yes, it's partially on him.

 

Oh so you thought before the season that Ozuna should have been off the roster then?  Cool.

 

 

Hey @Fotog, when Loria is no longer the owner and things go wrong -- who will you blame then?  I know you need a scapegoat for everything.

 

 

Hey @Fotog, when Loria is no longer the owner and things go wrong -- who will you blame then?  I know you need a scapegoat for everything.

 

I can't wait for that to see who gets blamed. They'll probably still blame Loria just because.

 

 

Hey @Fotog, when Loria is no longer the owner and things go wrong -- who will you blame then?  I know you need a scapegoat for everything.

 

This many things don't go wrong for anyone else. 

 

We haven't been to the playoffs in 13 years. We have the 3rd longest current playoff drought in the majors. Since then, we've fired 6 different managers, and are still paying 2 of them. We've had a payroll above $100M for approximately half a season. Since 2003, we've had a countless number of PR issues, have turned over 2 cores, and have seen every team in our division win the division at least once.

 

I don't think we'll be blaming anyone when Loria is gone. We're blaming Loria because SO MUCH has gone wrong. One can't realistically expect this much to go wrong under anyone else. Because it hasn't.

 

 

I don't forgive Loria for mistakes he's made but when people start blaming him for not foreseeing Ozuna's decline, well then its crazy sorry.

 

 

I don't forgive Loria for mistakes he's made but when people start blaming him for not foreseeing Ozuna's decline, well then its crazy sorry.

 

I haven't seen anyone blame Loria for Ozuna's decline solely. It's the aggregation of failures. If this had happened to the Pirates with Polanco, Pirates fans should be understanding because their team is built so well that it can be chalked up to bad luck. For us, when year after year our teams are built with scotch tape and elmer's glue, we have a right to be pissed off when things keep going wrong.

 

 

Yeah but some people are blaming the wrong culprit. Loria's past mistakes have NOTHING to do with this year's failures.  He invested and added every piece he should have added.  They just haven't performed.

 

 

(Fr. team transaction page)

 

Miami Marlins selected the contract of Jordany Valdespin from New Orleans Zephyrs.

 

Officially Valdespin gets callup, replacing Ozuna.

 

 

Officially Valdespin gets callup, replacing Ozuna.

 

Thank god it wasn't a Solano

 

 

I can't wait for that to see who gets blamed. They'll probably still blame Loria just because.

 

Do you and Admin think Jeffrey Loria is a good owner?