Jokersgoon Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Do any of you believe that Samson's comments mean that they're done negotiating with him? Also, is it certain that any contract that was offered to him has been rejected? Samson never lies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Do any of you believe that Samson's comments mean that they're done negotiating with him? Also, is it certain that any contract that was offered to him has been rejected? Samson's comment is utterly meaningless. That being said I still don't expect him to sign. Just the fact is they did make offers to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MittRomney Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 He won't be traded unless a team grossly overpays (like with Jose) For sure. As it should be, but teams would overpay for Yelich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 He won't be traded unless a team grossly overpays (like with Jose) GUYS, THEY'RE SHOPPING YELICH!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Admin were the offers to cespedes recently like in the last couple of weeks or way before that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Admin were the offers to cespedes recently like in the last couple of weeks or way before that? Couple of days ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Couple of days ago As I figured... So based on that here's my analysis of it. Loria truly believes we can compete if we add a little more to the core. Not really sure if we can add more SP, and seeing Cespedes' mysterious market, Loria gives the green light to make a strong last push for Cespedes, who will make our team better even if we can't get the pitching we need. Based on this and our last minute push for James Shields last offseason I'm gonna say we absolutely did not low ball cespedes on the offer. We still may be a long shot but until Yoenis makes his decision I won't consider us out of it because we're not gonna go low on years like the Mets or low on money like the Braves wanna do. Best case scenario would be offer him six years, pay him a little more upfront and include an opt out for two years or less and bank on him escaping when he's useless two years from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastieMike Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 i say he signs by Friday. End the week with a bang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vince0926 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 In honor of MLK day this week, we really should sign cespedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 In honor of MLK day this week, we really should sign cespedes. Dude... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vince0926 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Dude... MLK day was yesterday, buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 our current 2016 payroll was at about 63M,so we still have about 17M to spend if our project payroll was at 80M,and even at 80M still be VERY LOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MittRomney Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 our current 2016 payroll was at about 63M,so we still have about 17M to spend if our project payroll was at 80M,and even at 80M still be VERY LOW. Don't forget the 8 managers they're paying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Don't forget the 8 managers they're paying and with one general manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYmarlins Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 And saltalamagarbage. Yeah that is $8 million in dead money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsLou Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 our current 2016 payroll was at about 63M,so we still have about 17M to spend if our project payroll was at 80M,and even at 80M still be VERY LOW. It's higher than that including Chen I believe. If $80 is the number, I think they don't have much left. I would expect a sub $5 million SP, with a healthy incentives package, as the final move. They are linked to A. Simon, Arroyo, C. Lee, etc. at this point so that sounds about right. I suspect we're going to be mad when Alvarez comes back healthy in June for Oakland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 It's higher than that including Chen I believe. If $80 is the number, I think they don't have much left. I would expect a sub $5 million SP, with a healthy incentives package, as the final move. They are linked to A. Simon, Arroyo, C. Lee, etc. at this point so that sounds about right. I suspect we're going to be mad when Alvarez comes back healthy in June for Oakland. I believed everyone here don't expect him to come back healthy due to he no more WITH US,SO SAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 and how about Cory Luebke ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Punisher Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Marlins wanting Bronson Arroyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYmarlins Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Arroyo tells Sheldon that he threw a bullpen session with Reds catching coach Mike Stefanski on Friday this past week. Sheldon adds that while the Reds didn’t have other personnel present to watch the session, they’ve received video and are determining a course of action. Arroyo sounds like his hope is to return to the Reds, though he doesn’t explicitly state that. He does, however, say that he hopes the Reds make an offer today, and he also adds: “I wanted to give the Reds every opportunity to keep me. Bryan Price has told me he’d love to have me in their locker room. I think it benefits both sides. It’s an opportunity for me to come into a less-stressed situation after a surgery and help young guys on the staff. If we can get something that’s in the ballpark [financially], I’d be happy.” per MLB Trade Rumors Anything fair, and he is signing with the Reds unless the Marlins turn around and guarantee him a spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 It makes too much sense for Arroyo to go to DC or Cincinnati. Marlins would need to be really creative or pull out a big dollar amount and I don't see that happening for Arroyo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYmarlins Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 It makes too much sense for Arroyo to go to DC or Cincinnati. Marlins would need to be really creative or pull out a big dollar amount and I don't see that happening for Arroyo. The Nationals currently project to have a rotation consisting of Max Scherzer, Stephen Strasburg, Gio Gonzalez, Joe Ross and Tanner Roark, while Cincinnati’s rotation is far more in flux. Nationals will have a much different rotation after 2016. Strasburg and Gio coming off the books. Arroyo has a much easier chance to land the Reds pitching staff they don't have much there. With Nationals he would be more of a depth signing unless they decide to push Roark back to the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Yes but Arroyo might accept a depth role on the Nationals to reunite with Dusty Baker and to play for a contender. Point is it's either Nationals or Reds, doubtful he goes elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I'm not sure I prefer Arroyo over some of the others pitchers discussed on here. He's 39 and coming off surgery. I think I would say gallardo, Lincecum, fister. In that order. Lincecum only if it looks like he can throw after his surgery but I recall reading an article about how his doctors have said that the fastball velocity will increase greatly because of the surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Punisher Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I think whoever picks up lincecum is brilliant. He can end being the pitcher he once was. If he does. Him and fernandez at the top of the rotation... OMG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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