Entendu Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 In the wild card hunting until september in the last season still not good,right !? Lol when was the last time this dumpster fire made the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 In the wild card hunting until september in the last season still not good,right !? Coming up on 14 years since making playoffs. Not good. Even if they get eliminated in a 1-off Wild Card game, it would mean better respectablility for this franchise. Hanging around until September 1st is just a dicktease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Lol when was the last time this dumpster fire made the playoffs? Ok,whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 The 'this team is closer than people realize' is a bit of a myth. Especially with the untimely passing of Jose Fernandez. That whole concept was thrown out the window. This team has a nice offensive core. They have dick regarding starting pitching that could contend for anything really. Having an ace changed that perception. I dont see any aces walking through those doors now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Shouldn't ignored the improvement deliberately. We were (Jose aside) a .500 team last year. They could not sustain being 10 games over. If you want to call .500 an improvement, fine but this team is not playoff caliber. The rotation is still a fucking mess and the offense can't score runs like they should so why would you come here to close games if the opportunities to close will be much less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 We were (Jose aside) a .500 team last year. They could not sustain being 10 games over. If you want to call .500 an improvement, fine but this team is not playoff caliber. The rotation is still a fucking mess and the offense can't score runs like they should so why would you come here to close games if the opportunities to close will be much less Ok,whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Ok,whatever. OK, you're being an asshole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamTheLaw Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I honestly hope we sign neither one of them... This isn't where money should be allocated towards. If anything, if we do sign them, I hope we sign them to decent deals that we can then trade them for prospects that we DESPERATELY need! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I honestly hope we sign neither one of them... This isn't where money should be allocated towards. If anything, if we do sign them, I hope we sign them to decent deals that we can then trade them for prospects that we DESPERATELY need! Improve the offense or get a near ace pitcher (since the FA ain't good and we can't trade for shit with our farm) This closer BS with Jansen and CHapman is just Loria trying to make a big splash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 The 'this team is closer than people realize' is a bit of a myth. Especially with the untimely passing of Jose Fernandez. That whole concept was thrown out the window. This team has a nice offensive core. They have dick regarding starting pitching that could contend for anything really. Having an ace changed that perception. I dont see any aces walking through those doors now. I'll even go further and state the offensive core is a bit misleading. You have Yelich, Realmuto and Stanton (though he is what he is). Prado is a veteran who at some point sooner rather than later will probably start to lose some. Hech is what he is, great defender, questionable bat. Gordon will be forever tarnished by his drug bust. And the numbers kinda show that could be true. Ozuna if I recall struggled in the second half and the Marlins probably would love to move him giving his link to Scott Boras and his impending higher salaries. Bour is a nice piece, but hardly someone you build around. There is a reason this team finished in the bottom 5 in runs scored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 OK, you're being an asshole Fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Fine. You are just proving my point. You are giving your view , I am giving mine. Continue to support your view and stop acting like a whiney bitch regardless of who is wrong or right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixYearItch Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 So hoping against hope this team comes to its senses, after losing Jansen which it will, hopefully, and then goes after EE, signs Ziegler and one of Hammer/Fister and trades some combination of Bour/Dietrich/Ozuna or even AJ for another 3/4 starter. Just seems like the obvious way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 If I knew this team was thinking "Jansen OR Encarnacion" I'd say forget Jansen and get Edwin but there's no sign that the team is thinking this at all. It seems to be "Jansen or bust" and thus I'd rather get Jansen than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Even if Jansen signs here, does he become our next Heath Bell / Fernando Rodney? I doubt he gets as many save opportunities here and that could be a factor on how well he plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I don't feel like there's really any concern around here about Jansen's abilities and/or about him becoming a bust like Bell and Rodney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Jansen is an absolute bad ass and his pitches will age really well. He's showing absolutely zero signs of being shitty like rodney and bell did (and who most except the marlins FO figured they would be terrible because of their shitty ass peripherals) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I don't feel like there's really any concern around here about Jansen's abilities and/or about him becoming a bust like Bell and Rodney. I just keep wondering if Jansen gets more save ops in 2017 with us than Bryan Harvey did in '93. I would feel better if he came here with a better rotation going in otherwise why close for a team with a messy rotation. I've taken crappy jobs because the pay kept me afloat but before long I kept getting a "I don't wanna be here" mindset and it interferred with the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Jansen's wedding should not even be a factor anymore. That it is taking this long concerns me. He could at least say yeah I wuill chose Miami and make it official when the honeymoon is over. The longer the decision, the more I think he doesn't want to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 If I knew this team was thinking "Jansen OR Encarnacion" I'd say forget Jansen and get Edwin but there's no sign that the team is thinking this at all. It seems to be "Jansen or bust" and thus I'd rather get Jansen than not. Maybe thinking EE after lock up Jansen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Maybe thinking EE after lock up Jansen. i would like both but also add another decent arm in the rotation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Maybe thinking EE after lock up Jansen. But my point is the Marlins have shown ZERO interest in EE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I've taken crappy jobs because the pay kept me afloat but before long I kept getting a "I don't wanna be here" mindset and it interferred with the job. I don't think this applies to MLB players as much it does to us regular people. If Jansen accepts he won't complain about how many save opportunities because he generally knows what he's getting into. And at the end of the day he'll still be a highly paid closer playing baseball for a living. It's easier for them to accept the crappy job is what I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 No, the fire has spread onto nearby buildings and has claimed a few lives too soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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