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Marcell Ozuna Traded to the Cardinals

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I do hope he’s not the best prospect in the deal. Just saying, most in the industry don’t agree that that’s his ceiling. 

 

i think youd be hard pressed to find anyone in the industry who would say that's his ceiling.  thats complete bullshit.

 

 

I do hope he’s not the best prospect in the deal. Just saying, most in the industry don’t agree that that’s his ceiling. 

 

maybe before 2017 season they thought that, but he made zero progress last year

 

 

maybe before 2017 season they thought that, but he made zero progress last year

 

his value has literally been at it's highest this offseason following the AFL performance.

 

 

Where the heck is the outfielder? Damn it at least get Grichuk to fill a vacancy. That deal is trash if it ends up being the final one.

 

 

It's kind of scary that he's the one the Marlins wanted all along. I wonder if this is a Hill or Denbo move. I'm guessing it's the latter but Alcantara seems like a Michael Hill player.

 

Maybe they know something I don't, but this deal seems disappointing so far.

 

agreed.  I will say that around the time of the AFL Alcantara's stock was soaring, but i was really hoping he'd be the second prospect in any deal.  Let's see the other 3 prospects though.  Id assume Dakota hudson is also part of this deal and if so, that's another high floor mid rotation guy to counter the high ceiling low floor that Alcantara has.

 

 

This would be the type of return I'd expect if we dumped a bad contract with Ozuna but that hasn't been reported as happening. Weird.

 

STL also has an incredible farm system and Alcantara's stock has risen recently, so 3 more prospects from their system could still be really solid.  I have a feeling hudson and/or gomber will be in this deal too plus a minor league OF (of which they have a ton of solid ones).

 

 

Is it just me or does this feel a hell of a lot worse than last two firesales? At least before those we won the damn WS the year before. This team was as Stanton said a few starters away from serious playoff contention. Yeah the system was thin but this whole process was totally unnecessary if Jeter was smart about dealings, shed Prado (Anderson), Straily, and a few other costly contracts, made some educated SP acquisitions, and only raised payroll a few mil, if that.

 

Instead this organization has been set back at least five years. Loria was a terrible owner. Between everything he’s done since taking over Jeter has started out as a worse one.

 

And we even still have the HR sculpture.

 

 

I know one has nothing to do with the other but we are still a circus.  LOL

 

 

Is it just me or does this feel a hell of a lot worse than last two firesales?

 

yup. there is no light at the end of this tunnel.

 

16.5 WAR traded and the farm system got upgraded from the 30th best in baseball to... i dunno? the 29th?

 

 

Is it just me or does this feel a hell of a lot worse than last two firesales? At least before those we won the damn WS the year before.

 

Maybe it is age setting in but I'm struggling to remember a 2004 firesale.

 

 

Is it just me or does this feel a hell of a lot worse than last two firesales? At least before those we won the damn WS the year before. This team was as Stanton said a few starters away from serious playoff contention. Yeah the system was thin but this whole process was totally unnecessary if Jeter was smart about dealings, shed Prado (Anderson), Straily, and a few other costly contracts, made some educated SP acquisitions, and only raised payroll a few mil, if that.

 

Instead this organization has been set back at least five years. Loria was a terrible owner. Between everything he’s done since taking over Jeter has started out as a worse one.

 

And we even still have the HR sculpture.

 

Preach to the choir brother.

 

 

Is it just me or does this feel a hell of a lot worse than last two firesales? At least before those we won the damn WS the year before. This team was as Stanton said a few starters away from serious playoff contention. Yeah the system was thin but this whole process was totally unnecessary if Jeter was smart about dealings, shed Prado (Anderson), Straily, and a few other costly contracts, made some educated SP acquisitions, and only raised payroll a few mil, if that.

 

Instead this organization has been set back at least five years. Loria was a terrible owner. Between everything he’s done since taking over Jeter has started out as a worse one.

 

And we even still have the HR sculpture.

 

I agree with this. If you shed those contracts and get some solid pitching you can compete. This is more than likely the last year the Nationals have a huge strangle hold on the division as well. 

 

 

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