July 29, 20188 yr Unless he agrees to a contract extension How could he agrees to a contract extension that even not offered to him ?rumors said this team plans to start the conversation after this season and JT himself rather to have talks in the next off-season,too.
July 29, 20188 yr How could he agrees to a contract extension that even not offered to him ?rumors said this team plans to start the conversation after this season and JT himself rather to have talks in the next off-season,too. Right which is why they'd only trade him now if blown away. Getting Robles AND Kieboom in a deal would be the kind of thing that can do it. I doubt the Nats will offer it though anyway.
July 29, 20188 yr Let’s keep throwing THE BEAR out there until he sucks every last morsel of value out of himself.
July 29, 20188 yr I'll agree - been much more hittable this month after being unhittable in June. Has he gone away from his change-up which garnered his success, or is he perhaps throwing it too much now and more predictably? Regression to the mean.
July 29, 20188 yr Author or is his arm falling off? If his arm was falling off you'd at least see some blood by now.
July 29, 20188 yr Author The way Ziegler has pitched the last month combined with how ridiculous some GMs get around July 31st kinda has me thinking we might be relatively surprised with the return for him. This is playing out nicely for us, don't screw it up.
July 29, 20188 yr The way Ziegler has pitched the last month combined with how ridiculous some GMs get around July 31st kinda has me thinking we might be relatively surprised with the return for him. This is playing out nicely for us, don't screw it up. I think GM's pay too much attention to year-long counting stats that they won't be able to justify the trade because of his ERA for the entire year. Probably the same logic that will get us something back for Barraclough
July 30, 20188 yr I don't understand how the Nationals see themselves as buyers. If both teams keep performing the way they have, we may be knocking on their door in a few more weeks. **Granted, we are about to move a few pieces, so I expect us to slow down.
July 30, 20188 yr I don't understand how the Nationals see themselves as buyers. If both teams keep performing the way they have, we may be knocking on their door in a few more weeks. **Granted, we are about to move a few pieces, so I expect us to slow down. Agreed. The only reason they should see themselves as buyers is that they have underachieved like crazy and maybe want to make one last run with Harper. Other than that, its clear they arent good enough and that they are too far back at this point. They have significantly underachieved though all over the board between Turner, Harper, Murphy returning from injury, Zimmerman coming off a good year, Eaton getting hurt and missing some time again, and Robles getting hurt and not being able to contribute as of yet.
July 30, 20188 yr There needs to be 3 goals for the marlins at the deadline. 1- Sell high on Ziegler, Barraclough, and likely Conley. Front office needs to show they "get it" compared to the last regime and understand the relative value of relievers with how easy they are to find and the value you can get for Ziegler who is pitching well and Barraclough and Conley who either are at the height of their value (Barraclough) or could ave higher value in a year but could also completely fall apart and get nothing for them in the future (Conley.) . Steckenrider you keep because he has been less effective as of late and you can do the same thing with him at the deadline next year that we did with Barraclough this year and hipe that he pitches well and a team will foolishly value him higher just because he has a few saves prior to the deadline. 2- If you sell on JT before extension talks in the offseason you need to get Robles AND Kieboom. Anything less than that and you just hold on to him, let him finish his career year as the best catcher in baseball and 2 years of remaining team control and then attempt to re-sign him in the offseason and if it doesnt work then you deal him because you'll have more teams in the bidding. 3- Get as much IFA cash as humanly possible. Even if it means getting a lesser prospect for some of our lesser assets. The marlins have a legitimate chance as signing Victor Victor Mesa out of cuba and he is a legit 5 tool player who going by his twitter likes really wants to play here and might just be praying that the marlins can make the cash at all close to the team with the highest amount of IFA cash, that being the Orioles. Im telling you, I think we're getting him if we can acquire just a little more cash. Go look at his twitter likes. Its a stupid way to read into something, but there is a ton of marlins likes and very few likes of stuff relating to any other team. Other than that, only deal Straily, Urena, Bour, etc if you get really good value, and then deal Dietrich for the best possible return. If not, keep them as they are solid 2-3 WAR guys with years of team control left. Then spend the rest of the year evaluating guys like Lopez, Alcantara, Brinson, Austin Dean, Richards, and Jarlin.
July 30, 20188 yr Go look at his twitter likes. Its a stupid way to read into something, but there is a ton of marlins likes and very few likes of stuff relating to any other team. I checked. It seems like he likes basically any tweet about himself. Plenty of orioles ones there too.
July 30, 20188 yr Victor Mesa is an exciting player but they would have to forego a number of prospects to acquire enough extra cash. Orioles have a big lead. That would be a huge risk to take the cash instead of talent and then see him sign elsewhere.
July 30, 20188 yr Victor Mesa is an exciting player but they would have to forego a number of prospects to acquire enough extra cash. Orioles have a big lead. That would be a huge risk to take the cash instead of talent and then see him sign elsewhere. Supposedly the orioles might have signed a few IFA guys that they havent announced yet to bring it a little closer as well as the no state income tax thing. I think the orioles for sure will end up with the most but we can do some things to make it relatively close and then try to sell the Cuban/latin population down here. How many times can we possibly strike out on cuban guys? We've been in on how many different ones and failed to meet the price? Granted its a different regime but we've got to be able to sell the little havana thing to at least one of these guys eventually, right? I wouldnt blame the front office in this scenario however as they are clearly putting more of an emphasis on IFA which is long overdue.
July 30, 20188 yr I also dont think it would be risking much in terms of prospects. There are quite a few teams with money left over and there arent very many big IFA guys any more so teams like the Cubs and Dodgers and yankees/sox might be wiling to part with some money rather than giving up borderline prospects for guys like Maybin, Ziegler, maybe even a holaday. We wont be getting much for most of those guys anyways. I wasnt referring to taking lesser packages for some of our bigger trade assets.
July 30, 20188 yr mlb.com Yankees exploring options for Judge's absence July 28: The timeliness of Aaron Judge's chip fracture in his right wrist manifested in a manner that could allow the Yankees to explore immediate help to account for the superstar's absence, and the club is reportedly seeking options to fill his void, according to Joel Sherman in an article for the New York Post. Judge is expected to be sidelined for at least three weeks, and while the Yankees entered Saturday with a 99.9 percent chance of reaching the postseason, according to FanGraphs projections, the Bombers remain in a heated race for the American League East crown with the Red Sox, the winner of which will benefit tremendously by avoiding the potential of going one-and-done in the American League Wild Card Game. Sherman speculates that the Yankees may target the Marlins' Cameron Maybin or the Orioles' Danny Valencia over the Blue Jays' Curtis Granderson given the former pair's right-handed-hitting ability ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 things to take away here: 1) Maybin being looked at by the Yankees 2) The Yankees want to fill Judge's void (ewww)
July 30, 20188 yr Dietrich and Barraclough to me make a lot of sense to deal together to a mid market team who is a contender but doesnt want to make an enormous move. Teams like the Brewers or Indians to me make so much sense.
July 30, 20188 yr https://www.mlb.com/marlins/news/jt-realmuto-draws-interest-from-nationals/c-287914924 "Internally, the Marlins also are pondering if they would deal arguably the best catcher in the Major Leagues. Realmuto is under club control through 2020. Even if the Nationals agree to part with Robles and Kieboom, Miami still may decide to retain Realmuto and aim to build around him. The Marlins don't have an obvious replacement for Realmuto, and the organization has a number of young pitchers. The Marlins see plenty of value in having an elite catcher to help the development of them." I said it many times,why trade a player that obviously had more impact to this team than the players in return !?
July 30, 20188 yr https://www.mlb.com/marlins/news/jt-realmuto-draws-interest-from-nationals/c-287914924 "Internally, the Marlins also are pondering if they would deal arguably the best catcher in the Major Leagues. Realmuto is under club control through 2020. Even if the Nationals agree to part with Robles and Kieboom, Miami still may decide to retain Realmuto and aim to build around him. The Marlins don't have an obvious replacement for Realmuto, and the organization has a number of young pitchers. The Marlins see plenty of value in having an elite catcher to help the development of them." I said it many times,why trade a player that obviously had more impact to this team than the players in return !? If the Nats actually offered both and Miami turns it down, they better hope he signs a contract extension this offseason or they’ll regret that big time.
July 30, 20188 yr If the Nats actually offered both and Miami turns it down, they better hope he signs a contract extension this offseason or they’ll regret that big time. Screw "this offseson". Overpay, and tell him sign NOW! ?
July 30, 20188 yr Supposedly the orioles might have signed a few IFA guys that they havent announced yet to bring it a little closer as well as the no state income tax thing. I think the orioles for sure will end up with the most but we can do some things to make it relatively close and then try to sell the Cuban/latin population down here. How many times can we possibly strike out on cuban guys? We've been in on how many different ones and failed to meet the price? Granted its a different regime but we've got to be able to sell the little havana thing to at least one of these guys eventually, right? I wouldnt blame the front office in this scenario however as they are clearly putting more of an emphasis on IFA which is long overdue. You have a better chance of selling Little Havana to a Nicaraguan baseball player than to a Cuban one nowadays
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