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Realmuto traded to Phillies

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As I said before not giving the window actually makes sense. Him saying no to the Padres hurts negotiations with other teams because it takes san Diego out of the running. This is particularly true if for example we are more interested in dealing with another team and are using the Padres for leverage. 

 

Yea this has to be it. We are assuming JT would accept an extension but what if he says no then what's the point of the Padres acquiring him? 

 

 

I hate the no window thing too but answer the question... what happens to a proposed trade if the window opens and JT flat out says no? 

 

I would say the trade stays the same as what the other teams have offered and the Marlins lose some leverage to ask for more. That's about it.

 

 

We shouldn't be granting any windows to anyone.  You know his contract, you take him as is.  Dumb to offer more leverage to any team wanting him!  

 

 

We shouldn't be granting any windows to anyone.  You know his contract, you take him as is.  Dumb to offer more leverage to any team wanting him!  

 

You have to think of it from the other team's viewpoint. Padres would be willing to deal away Mejia if they know JT is the longterm answer. If JT is only there for 2 years, they become less likely to include Mejia.

 

 

You have to think of it from the other team's viewpoint. Padres would be willing to deal away Mejia if they know JT is the longterm answer. If JT is only there for 2 years, they become less likely to include Mejia.

 

Seems to be something that's not really our problem.  JT is a top 5 catcher in baseball.  Of course the cost will be high!  

 

 

I would say the trade stays the same as what the other teams have offered and the Marlins lose some leverage to ask for more. That's about it.

 

I think the fear is the Padres only want him if they can extend him so if they get the window and JT says no then the Padres back out of the deal completely. 

 

 

You have to think of it from the other team's viewpoint. Padres would be willing to deal away Mejia if they know JT is the longterm answer. If JT is only there for 2 years, they become less likely to include Mejia.

 

You're still assuming JT says yes to an extension. 

 

 

The Marlins are being defensive. They probably know the teams JT would want to go to and they definitely know more or less what he's looking for in an extension - both years and annual amount. By denying all teams a chance to negotiate you keep the playing field even. If you let someone negotiate with him and his demands are too high, the team might balk. And then leak how much JT actually wants which could turn off some F.O. peeps from other teams. If he had only 1 year left, I'd get it. But it's two years. Only the Padres are asking for this window because they're cheap. (not that a Marlins fan should be able to call any other team cheap but...) The Dodgers and Astros and whoever else can trade for him and then wait 6-12 months and resign him after he likes the city and the team etc. I don't like everything the Marlins have done but this makes sense to me. It's two years. Take it or leave it. Fuck off if it's not good enough for you. I don't blame the Padres at all for asking, they're trying to be resourceful and beating around the bush with Manny also. Maybe if they land one they'll be more willing to go for the other also and keep that WS window open for as long as possible. I also don't blame the Marlins for their stance. They aren't budging on their asking price, on negotiating windows, on anything. They're showing resolve and dare I say it competence. I'm cool with it.

 

 

I think the fear is the Padres only want him if they can extend him so if they get the window and JT says no then the Padres back out of the deal completely. 

 

Yes, but the Padres know what it would take to sign him to an extension.  If they aren't willing to make that commitment then why make the trade in the first place?

 

 

I think the reason for not giving them that window is because if realmuto says no then it takes any deal with the Padres off the table. That would then hurt the marlins in negotiations with other teams. 

 

It also is likely realmuto wouldn’t sign an extension with them since they’re basically still in a rebuild. 

 

Yea, I think it's the only reason that makes sense.

 

 

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