Cohlan gets on base better than Bonifacio.

Ross Gload gets on base better than Bonifacio.

 

 

One could use Gload vs. RHP at 1B and Helms vs. LHP at 3B and replace Bonifacio completely

Or... one could use Coghlan at 3B

Someone produced a good stat, I think in the Game Thread last night showing how Coghlan had been far better than Bonifacio when it mattered, with guys in base.

 

My solution once again - Coghlan to 3B, Hermida to LF, Gload to RF

 

 

That's the downside of baseball, you can prove anything that you want to prove if you dig up the right stats. Bonifacio either scores or drives a run in every 0.192 plate appearances. Coglan either scores or drives in a run every 0.174 plate appearances.

 

You could probably prove that Jorge Julio is a currently a better pitcher than Zach Greinke with the right stat(s).

 

The stats show that neither one of them has been very good. It doesn't matter that I like Coghlan longterm a lot better than Bonifacio because of his track record, right now they both stink and both of them should not be in the lineup. I've always challenged the wisdom of playing an infield bat in LF and I really don't understand when that said IF bat is under .200. Jack Mckeon could play left field competently and still bat .200. We need more from that position, considering that 3B is still gonna be a tremendous weakness, and we either need to start getting De Aza or Gload starts there or find a different solution because starting out our lineup with 2 hitters under .200 is not doing us any favors.

I think Carroll should be given a shot. He plays good defense and I'm sure he can put up a .600 OPS ala Coglan and Bonifacio if given regular playing time.

Let's not fail to mention that Bonifacio leads the Majors with 9 errors. Anyone on the team is better then him defensively. I say lets give someone else a chance.

Yawn. Bonifacio was on base 3 times on Wednesday but of course no one mentions that.

 

Whilst Chris "Saint" Coghlan continues to light up the majors.

 

 

YEH! One good game in the past week! You go Bonifacio!

 

Well done. You've mentioned it.

 

When did Coghlan last have a good game? Do we get loads of threads demanded his removal or decapitation? Nope. Both guys are 24. Both guys are struggling. Both guys are in their first year as a day-to-day player. The only difference is Coghlan has looked much better in the minors. But that can mean diddly-squat when it comes to the bigs.

 

I'm not saying Bonifacio is a good player, as currently he is not and it seems unlikely he ever will be. I am saying though that the amount of flak he gets on here is disproportionate and undeserved.

 

This isn't about Coghlan vs Bonifacio. It's about how bad Bonifacio has been. He's been terrible.

 

But since you brought up Coghlan, we'll talk about him. His OBP is higher than his(small sample I know), He already tied Bonifacio with 16 walks. Yea, he's not great, but that's still better than Bonifacio.

According to UZR Hermida, Ross, Uggla and Coghlan are all worse defensively than Bonifacio.

No wonder we suck defensively.

It's hard to explain what happened to the defense. In '07 we sucked because Fredi ignored defense but this year I don't think that's the case.

It's hard to explain what happened to the defense. In '07 we sucked because Fredi ignored defense but this year I don't think that's the case.

 

Well, both Hermida and Ross have been worst off than last year, but both are playing new positions from last year.

 

Hermida, for one, has to learn to judge balls completely opposite of the way he has his entire career, plus learn the wall. Before the season started, Ross did say RF was his worst position, as apparently he's like me in believing that CF is NOT the hardest position to play in the OF, but the easiest, it just needs more natural talents. Going by +/-, Ross has been fine in CF this year in limited play and Hermida has been OK in RF.

 

And we all know why Chris sucks in LF.

and also have to remember we're dealing with small sample sizes. Hell one year is a rather small sample size when it comes to fielding. Just not many opportunities like hitting/fielding.

 

Doesn't change the fact it's been horrible so far though.

10-1 Bonifacio doesn't attempt to bunt his first at-bat

10-1 Bonifacio doesn't attempt to bunt his first at-bat

 

And? There have been 4 bunt hits to leadoff a game this year, in 1652 plate appearances.

 

His suckiness is beyond that.

This isn't about Coghlan vs Bonifacio. It's about how bad Bonifacio has been. He's been terrible.

 

But since you brought up Coghlan, we'll talk about him. His OBP is higher than his(small sample I know), He already tied Bonifacio with 16 walks. Yea, he's not great, but that's still better than Bonifacio.

 

 

I'm not making it about Coghlan vs Bonifacio. There are no "Coghlan sucks" threads. There is almost a daily "Bonifacio sucks" thread. I'm trying to work out why this board has this huge discrepancy.

This isn't about Coghlan vs Bonifacio. It's about how bad Bonifacio has been. He's been terrible.

 

But since you brought up Coghlan, we'll talk about him. His OBP is higher than his(small sample I know), He already tied Bonifacio with 16 walks. Yea, he's not great, but that's still better than Bonifacio.

 

 

I'm not making it about Coghlan vs Bonifacio. There are no "Coghlan sucks" threads. There is almost a daily "Bonifacio sucks" thread. I'm trying to work out why this board has this huge discrepancy.

The reason Schnellders said is why. I asked the same question earlier in the game thread yesterday.

Yawn. Bonifacio was on base 3 times on Wednesday but of course no one mentions that.

 

Whilst Chris "Saint" Coghlan continues to light up the majors.

 

 

Someone produced a good stat, I think in the Game Thread last night showing how Coghlan had been far better than Bonifacio when it mattered, with guys in base.

 

My solution once again - Coghlan to 3B, Hermida to LF, Gload to RF

When it mattered? If no one ever gets on base then no at bat ever matters.

One Player to Cut from Every Team: NL Edition

Posted by Nick Kapur on Friday June 05th 2009, 11:44 pm, filed in Diamond cuts

 

Marlins - 3B Emilio Bonifacio: The fact that Emilio Bonifacio, who has no business being in a major league lineup at all, is actually batting leadoff for the Marlins, despite his .294 OBP, is an indictment of the entire Marlins coaching staff and front office.

 

http://umpbump.com/press/2009/06/05/one-player-to-cut-from-every-team-nl-edition/

Oh no, the incompetence of our coaching staff is coming out.

This isn't about Coghlan vs Bonifacio. It's about how bad Bonifacio has been. He's been terrible.

 

But since you brought up Coghlan, we'll talk about him. His OBP is higher than his(small sample I know), He already tied Bonifacio with 16 walks. Yea, he's not great, but that's still better than Bonifacio.

 

 

I'm not making it about Coghlan vs Bonifacio. There are no "Coghlan sucks" threads. There is almost a daily "Bonifacio sucks" thread. I'm trying to work out why this board has this huge discrepancy.

 

 

Perhaps b/c Coghlan has a .337 .OBP, and has drawn as many walks as Bonifacio in 155 less PA's?

Or maybe it's b/c we're actually trying to move Coghlan around in the order (and benching him, occasionally...like last night against a lefty), while Bonifacio(ut) gets to play everyday, hitting in the 1st 2 spots in the order, despite having a .292 .OBP (.288 in the leadoff spot, for good measure). Yep, that's why.

 

Fredi & the front office must have homosexual tendencies. Either that, or they don't give a rats ass about winning b/c having this guy at the top of the order (the sample is also much bigger with Bonifacio than it is with Coghlan) is pretty insane. How many less than .300 .OBP guys do you see getting to, constantly, leadoff or hit 2nd, in the big leagues? (please don't bring up Jimmy Rollins either...he's actually earned that respect, with his play...and even he was moved down/benched for some games this year)

This isn't about Coghlan vs Bonifacio. It's about how bad Bonifacio has been. He's been terrible.

 

But since you brought up Coghlan, we'll talk about him. His OBP is higher than his(small sample I know), He already tied Bonifacio with 16 walks. Yea, he's not great, but that's still better than Bonifacio.

 

 

I'm not making it about Coghlan vs Bonifacio. There are no "Coghlan sucks" threads. There is almost a daily "Bonifacio sucks" thread. I'm trying to work out why this board has this huge discrepancy.

 

 

Perhaps b/c Coghlan has a .337 .OBP, and has drawn as many walks as Bonifacio in 155 less PA's?

Or maybe it's b/c we're actually trying to move Coghlan around in the order (and benching him, occasionally...like last night against a lefty), while Bonifacio(ut) gets to play everyday, hitting in the 1st 2 spots in the order, despite having a .292 .OBP (.288 in the leadoff spot, for good measure). Yep, that's why.

 

Fredi & the front office must have homosexual tendencies. Either that, or they don't give a rats ass about winning b/c having this guy at the top of the order (the sample is also much bigger with Bonifacio than it is with Coghlan) is pretty insane. How many less than .300 .OBP guys do you see getting to, constantly, leadoff or hit 2nd, in the big leagues? (please don't bring up Jimmy Rollins either...he's actually earned that respect, with his play...and even he was moved down/benched for some games this year)

 

 

Orlando Cabrera.

One Player to Cut from Every Team: NL Edition

Posted by Nick Kapur on Friday June 05th 2009, 11:44 pm, filed in Diamond cuts

 

Marlins - 3B Emilio Bonifacio: The fact that Emilio Bonifacio, who has no business being in a major league lineup at all, is actually batting leadoff for the Marlins, despite his .294 OBP, is an indictment of the entire Marlins coaching staff and front office.

 

http://umpbump.com/p...eam-nl-edition/

 

 

 

 

 

This!

 

If you hear any Triple A Chants tonight when Bonifacio is batting or does anything wrong thats my dad and Uncle

One Player to Cut from Every Team: NL Edition

Posted by Nick Kapur on Friday June 05th 2009, 11:44 pm, filed in Diamond cuts

 

Marlins - 3B Emilio Bonifacio: The fact that Emilio Bonifacio, who has no business being in a major league lineup at all, is actually batting leadoff for the Marlins, despite his .294 OBP, is an indictment of the entire Marlins coaching staff and front office.

 

http://umpbump.com/p...eam-nl-edition/

 

 

 

 

 

This!

 

If you hear any Triple A Chants tonight when Bonifacio is batting or does anything wrong thats my dad and Uncle

 

They won't be the only ones. :shifty

This isn't about Coghlan vs Bonifacio. It's about how bad Bonifacio has been. He's been terrible.

 

But since you brought up Coghlan, we'll talk about him. His OBP is higher than his(small sample I know), He already tied Bonifacio with 16 walks. Yea, he's not great, but that's still better than Bonifacio.

 

 

I'm not making it about Coghlan vs Bonifacio. There are no "Coghlan sucks" threads. There is almost a daily "Bonifacio sucks" thread. I'm trying to work out why this board has this huge discrepancy.

 

 

Perhaps b/c Coghlan has a .337 .OBP, and has drawn as many walks as Bonifacio in 155 less PA's?

Or maybe it's b/c we're actually trying to move Coghlan around in the order (and benching him, occasionally...like last night against a lefty), while Bonifacio(ut) gets to play everyday, hitting in the 1st 2 spots in the order, despite having a .292 .OBP (.288 in the leadoff spot, for good measure). Yep, that's why.

 

Fredi & the front office must have homosexual tendencies. Either that, or they don't give a rats ass about winning b/c having this guy at the top of the order (the sample is also much bigger with Bonifacio than it is with Coghlan) is pretty insane. How many less than .300 .OBP guys do you see getting to, constantly, leadoff or hit 2nd, in the big leagues? (please don't bring up Jimmy Rollins either...he's actually earned that respect, with his play...and even he was moved down/benched for some games this year)

 

 

Orlando Cabrera.

You'll find exceptions, but he is the only player without a track record getting so much playing time in the 1 or 2. The position in the order that calls for the highest OBP, is being occupied by the hitter with the worst OBP on the team. I'm going with the homo sexual tendencies.

I think Bonifacio might be slightly useful in the 8 spot before sending him to AAA, but this leadoff and #2 spot stuff has to stop!

how about josh fields to replace him. i know he isn't really tearing it up right now but he had a pretty good year in 2007 and has potential. just to note i don't hate bonifacio. i actually like him as a pinch runner and emergency infielder but he shouldn't be starting in the major leagues

I think Carroll should be given a shot. He plays good defense and I'm sure he can put up a .600 OPS ala Coglan and Bonifacio if given regular playing time.

 

 

 

Yeah at this point I want to see Brett Carroll play everyday in RF the guy has a cannon out there, and Cody Ross has looked real good in CF this week so I like the OF set up like how we saw when Carroll was out there. Hermida, Ross, Carroll and honestly Bonifacio is not a major leaguer, and should be sent to AA where his skill level is still at, and Coghlan should be given a shot at 3rd.

 

Seriously who is Bonifacio giving fellatio to? I mean how else does this guy still have a job in the majors?

 

He will never be Luis Castillo folks, and what good is his speed if he can't hit or steal bases when he does get on! And it's been said before but at 3rd base he's terrible! He has as many holes in his glove as he does in his swing, and with his short size he's got terrible range.

 

The Marlins front office keeping this clown in the majors show lack of compitence in both them, and their coaching staff... Or Emilio is very good at performing fellatio on men.