I don't know who the next hitting coach should be, but I do know that Redmond should pick him.

 

 

But he's already been picked.

Next hitting coach should be me. The job is that irrelevant.

 

Crappy hitters will be crappy and good hitters will be good. We have a lot of crappy hitters so we're a crappy hitting team. Get better hitters. New hitting coach will look like a genius!

If Redmond says that he was not happy over Loria's choice of hitting coach, will Loria fire redmond after the season?

If Redmond says that he was not happy over Loria's choice of hitting coach, will Loria fire redmond after the season?

 

 

Only if he benches Hanley for not hustling after kicking a pop-up.

If Redmond says that he was not happy over Loria's choice of hitting coach, will Loria fire redmond after the season?

 

 

Only if he benches Hanley for not hustling after kicking a pop-up.

 

 

Good thing Superstar is in fucking Hollywood.

Next hitting coach should be me. The job is that irrelevant.

 

Crappy hitters will be crappy and good hitters will be good. We have a lot of crappy hitters so we're a crappy hitting team. Get better hitters. New hitting coach will look like a genius!

 

 

True a hitting coach isn't going to automatically make Juan Pierre bat .300 again, but he still can be valuable in fine tuning some of the players swings and approaches at the plate. Look at what Cito Gaston did for Jose Batista.

Major League coaches are not bosses, they are helpers.

 

Lose your connection with the players and you should be toast.

Putting together the pieces of the puzzle now... I'm now seriously thinking SomethingFishy could have been Tino.

 

 

Thanks I now have to wipe coffee off of my screen!

Just thinking how many hitting coaches has it now been for Stanton and Morrison? No wonder neither are consistent!

Putting together the pieces of the puzzle now... I'm now seriously thinking SomethingFishy could have been Tino.

 

 

Notice that Tino never put his hands around Donovan Solano's neck. Nor did he berate him with curse words.

Watching the game... is this interim guy 90 years old?

oh god, this comment.

 

 

 

"Wow! What a bunch of whinny babies! This is just another example of the wussification of America. These guys are lucky to be at the professional level and with this type of crying, they wont be there long! Maybe we need to get together to make sure all the Marlins players get trophies for trying.... NOT!!

Tino is a class-act in every measure. He comes from a tradition of tough, hard-nosed disclipline that WINS ball games- The New York Yankees. It just shows how bad these guys really are that we cannot take some firm criticism. And for the Marlins to react in such a way, just shows what a bunch of LOSERS they are.

With Redman in charge, this team is going no where but the basement, because he is a big push over that will have these kids running all over him in no time. This is the beginning of the end for Redman not Tino!

Tino will bounce back better without the Marlins."

The Yankees sure showed that tradition of tough, hard-nosed discipline that wins ball games in the 2003 World Series.

I'm sure people in 1935 were being told by their elders about the wussifcation of America. What a joke.

oh god, this comment.

 

 

 

"Wow! What a bunch of whinny babies! This is just another example of the wussification of America. These guys are lucky to be at the professional level and with this type of crying, they wont be there long! Maybe we need to get together to make sure all the Marlins players get trophies for trying.... NOT!!

Tino is a class-act in every measure. He comes from a tradition of tough, hard-nosed disclipline that WINS ball games- The New York Yankees. It just shows how bad these guys really are that we cannot take some firm criticism. And for the Marlins to react in such a way, just shows what a bunch of LOSERS they are.

With Redman in charge, this team is going no where but the basement, because he is a big push over that will have these kids running all over him in no time. This is the beginning of the end for Redman not Tino!

Tino will bounce back better without the Marlins."

 

 

Where's this comment even from?

oh god, this comment.

 

With Redman in charge, this team is going no where but the basement, because he is a big push over that will have these kids running all over him in no time. This is the beginning of the end for Redman not Tino!

Tino will bounce back better without the Marlins."

 

 

Method Man for hitting coach?

You guys see this yet? Tino goes into detail about the "incidents" in question.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/tino-martinez-resign-hitting-coach-miami-marlins-picking-up-balls-batting-cage-072913

 

FWIW I think he's full of shit

100% support Tino on this one. Most professional ballplayers feel they're too high up on the pedestal to pick up baseballs and that drives old school guys like Tino crazy. He went on a profanity-laced tirade because a hitter decided he wasn't going to pick up after himself and I would too. Hell, I coach 11U youth ball and I get a little pissy when my kids be lazy about picking up balls in the cage.

 

You have to love the media and they're ability to take something generic and really spin a villain. Getting in a player's grill over not picking up balls in the cage is obviously a far cry from "grabbing a player around the neck" during hitting instruction. Now I don't know why Tino would be so willing to resign after this but I do believe he's had it with the club and didn't really know what he was signing up for. It probably was only a matter of time and he wouldn't have been back for next year anyways.

100% support Tino on this one. Most professional ballplayers feel they're too high up on the pedestal to pick up baseballs and that drives old school guys like Tino crazy. He went on a profanity-laced tirade because a hitter decided he wasn't going to pick up after himself and I would too. Hell, I coach 11U youth ball and I get a little pissy when my kids be lazy about picking up balls in the cage.

 

You have to love the media and they're ability to take something generic and really spin a villain. Getting in a player's grill over not picking up balls in the cage is obviously a far cry from "grabbing a player around the neck" during hitting instruction. Now I don't know why Tino would be so willing to resign after this but I do believe he's had it with the club and didn't really know what he was signing up for. It probably was only a matter of time and he wouldn't have been back for next year anyways.

 

 

This is only Tino's side of the story. The fact that he resigned, makes me think there's a lot more than meets the eye here. Also, the way he handled Kotchman and wanted to fight him because of an injury is another red flag that he's simply trying to salvage his rep after this and was probably a much bigger asshole than asking dudes to pick up balls.

100% support Tino on this one. Most professional ballplayers feel they're too high up on the pedestal to pick up baseballs and that drives old school guys like Tino crazy. He went on a profanity-laced tirade because a hitter decided he wasn't going to pick up after himself and I would too. Hell, I coach 11U youth ball and I get a little pissy when my kids be lazy about picking up balls in the cage.

 

You have to love the media and they're ability to take something generic and really spin a villain. Getting in a player's grill over not picking up balls in the cage is obviously a far cry from "grabbing a player around the neck" during hitting instruction. Now I don't know why Tino would be so willing to resign after this but I do believe he's had it with the club and didn't really know what he was signing up for. It probably was only a matter of time and he wouldn't have been back for next year anyways.

 

 

This is only Tino's side of the story. The fact that he resigned, makes me think there's a lot more than meets the eye here. Also, the way he handled Kotchman and wanted to fight him because of an injury is another red flag that he's simply trying to salvage his rep after this and was probably a much bigger asshole than asking dudes to pick up balls.

 

 

1. What we know of Tino as a player supports his side of the story. I mean, how often did we hear of "Tino the asshole" when he played all those years? I swear, I had never heard anyone say anything bad about him before yesterday.

 

2. If he was trying to save face, then why come up with such a simple story as "players not picking up balls in the cage"? I 100% believe it, I think this is the byproduct of today's lazier and more egotistical ballplayers, and they're clashing with the old guard who are now their coaches.

 

I'm also hesitant to believe any of this "tried to fight Kotchman" crap because it seems to be a blip thrown into the tail end of all these "Evil, Bipolar Tino" articles. The lack of details regarding the incident makes it nothing more than a rumor and my guess is it was a heated exchanged in the clubhouse....something that happens everywhere, all the time.

100% support Tino on this one. Most professional ballplayers feel they're too high up on the pedestal to pick up baseballs and that drives old school guys like Tino crazy. He went on a profanity-laced tirade because a hitter decided he wasn't going to pick up after himself and I would too. Hell, I coach 11U youth ball and I get a little pissy when my kids be lazy about picking up balls in the cage.

 

You have to love the media and they're ability to take something generic and really spin a villain. Getting in a player's grill over not picking up balls in the cage is obviously a far cry from "grabbing a player around the neck" during hitting instruction. Now I don't know why Tino would be so willing to resign after this but I do believe he's had it with the club and didn't really know what he was signing up for. It probably was only a matter of time and he wouldn't have been back for next year anyways.

 

 

This is only Tino's side of the story. The fact that he resigned, makes me think there's a lot more than meets the eye here. Also, the way he handled Kotchman and wanted to fight him because of an injury is another red flag that he's simply trying to salvage his rep after this and was probably a much bigger asshole than asking dudes to pick up balls.

 

 

1. What we know of Tino as a player supports his side of the story. I mean, how often did we hear of "Tino the asshole" when he played all those years? I swear, I had never heard anyone say anything bad about him before yesterday.

 

2. If he was trying to save face, then why come up with such a simple story as "players not picking up balls in the cage"? I 100% believe it, I think this is the byproduct of today's lazier and more egotistical ballplayers, and they're clashing with the old guard who are now their coaches.

 

I'm also hesitant to believe any of this "tried to fight Kotchman" crap because it seems to be a blip thrown into the tail end of all these "Evil, Bipolar Tino" articles. The lack of details regarding the incident makes it nothing more than a rumor and my guess is it was a heated exchanged in the clubhouse....something that happens everywhere, all the time.

 

 

 

 

He admitted to the Kotchman thing and said he regrets it...

 

Of course he's trying to save face. He wants another coaching job after all. I'm sure the balls thing happened, but I seriously doubt that's all there is to the story.

 

For instance, Ruggiano was a huge fan of Ozzie so I really don't see him clashing with Tino for no reason. Something just doesn't add up which is why I read Tino's side with a grain of salt at best.

100% support Tino on this one. Most professional ballplayers feel they're too high up on the pedestal to pick up baseballs and that drives old school guys like Tino crazy. He went on a profanity-laced tirade because a hitter decided he wasn't going to pick up after himself and I would too. Hell, I coach 11U youth ball and I get a little pissy when my kids be lazy about picking up balls in the cage.

 

You have to love the media and they're ability to take something generic and really spin a villain. Getting in a player's grill over not picking up balls in the cage is obviously a far cry from "grabbing a player around the neck" during hitting instruction. Now I don't know why Tino would be so willing to resign after this but I do believe he's had it with the club and didn't really know what he was signing up for. It probably was only a matter of time and he wouldn't have been back for next year anyways.

 

 

This is only Tino's side of the story. The fact that he resigned, makes me think there's a lot more than meets the eye here. Also, the way he handled Kotchman and wanted to fight him because of an injury is another red flag that he's simply trying to salvage his rep after this and was probably a much bigger asshole than asking dudes to pick up balls.

 

 

1. What we know of Tino as a player supports his side of the story. I mean, how often did we hear of "Tino the asshole" when he played all those years? I swear, I had never heard anyone say anything bad about him before yesterday.

 

2. If he was trying to save face, then why come up with such a simple story as "players not picking up balls in the cage"? I 100% believe it, I think this is the byproduct of today's lazier and more egotistical ballplayers, and they're clashing with the old guard who are now their coaches.

 

I'm also hesitant to believe any of this "tried to fight Kotchman" crap because it seems to be a blip thrown into the tail end of all these "Evil, Bipolar Tino" articles. The lack of details regarding the incident makes it nothing more than a rumor and my guess is it was a heated exchanged in the clubhouse....something that happens everywhere, all the time.

 

 

 

 

He admitted to the Kotchman thing and said he regrets it...

 

Of course he's trying to save face. He wants another coaching job after all. I'm sure the balls thing happened, but I seriously doubt that's all there is to the story.

 

For instance, Ruggiano was a huge fan of Ozzie so I really don't see him clashing with Tino for no reason.

 

 

 

I've never read him admitting much less acknowledging the Kotchman story

 

And I just don't see where it makes any sense for a guy with Tino's track record to just be jacking up ballplayers in the clubhouse for no reason. I think this is a case where Tino's coaching style didn't mesh well with Redmond's clubhouse and it made him the odd man out.

 

And if players feel they're too good to pick up balls in the cage, then Redmond needs to get his damn players in check.

It's in the article Polly linked a few minutes ago. Here, I saved you the trouble.

 

 

 

The Sun-Sentinel also reported that Martinez challenged first baseman Casey Kotchman to a fight. Martinez did not directly address that claim but took responsibility for the disagreement.

“That’s probably the only one I regret — he’s a good guy,� Martinez said. “I questioned his injury (a strained left hamstring that Kotchman suffered on April 5). I shouldn’t have done that. I felt bad about doing that.�

It's in the article Polly linked a few minutes ago. Here, I saved you the trouble.

 

 

 

The Sun-Sentinel also reported that Martinez challenged first baseman Casey Kotchman to a fight. Martinez did not directly address that claim but took responsibility for the disagreement.

“That’s probably the only one I regret — he’s a good guy,� Martinez said. “I questioned his injury (a strained left hamstring that Kotchman suffered on April 5). I shouldn’t have done that. I felt bad about doing that.�

 

Okay...

 

I'm not seeing the "challenged him to a fight" part of that admission but w/e

It's in the article Polly linked a few minutes ago. Here, I saved you the trouble.

 

 

 

The Sun-Sentinel also reported that Martinez challenged first baseman Casey Kotchman to a fight. Martinez did not directly address that claim but took responsibility for the disagreement.

“That’s probably the only one I regret — he’s a good guy,� Martinez said. “I questioned his injury (a strained left hamstring that Kotchman suffered on April 5). I shouldn’t have done that. I felt bad about doing that.�

 

Okay...

 

I'm not seeing the "challenged him to a fight" part of that admission but w/e

 

 

 

This is what you said:

 

 

 

I've never read him admitting much less acknowledging the Kotchman story

He acknowledged it. That's all I was going for here.

It's in the article Polly linked a few minutes ago. Here, I saved you the trouble.

 

 

 

The Sun-Sentinel also reported that Martinez challenged first baseman Casey Kotchman to a fight. Martinez did not directly address that claim but took responsibility for the disagreement.

“That’s probably the only one I regret — he’s a good guy,� Martinez said. “I questioned his injury (a strained left hamstring that Kotchman suffered on April 5). I shouldn’t have done that. I felt bad about doing that.�

 

Okay...

 

I'm not seeing the "challenged him to a fight" part of that admission but w/e

You're being a huge apologist here