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Sorry, I meant it in a kind of "are we a better team with the players we've lost and the players we've gained since the end of the 2013 season" way but I know how you douche bags are about thread titles.

 

I still say we won the Gordon trade. IMHO Heaney is a number one prospect in the same way Jeremy Hermida was a number one prospect. I just don't think he has ML balls, and I think the Marlins FO knew what they were doing (we may scorn them, but they got us no-names like Brian Morris and Jarrod Cosart last year and turned them into plus WAR heroes). We have Tyler Kolek, so we didn't need him any more. The rest of the rotation once Jose is back is freakishly young, aside from Haren and Latos is a rental. Gordon's stats are not good, but they ain't bad, and we've seen how Butler and co can improve Hech from garbage to horrible. Gordon on base will allow Yelich to draw more walks, with GS and another power bat and Ozuna to follow. Barnes was blocked by Realmuto. I can't say I'll miss Hatcher or Hernandez. Hernandez struck me as another Dallas McPherson.

 

I want to hibernate until the start of next season,.

 

 

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Sorry, I meant it in a kind of "are we a better team with the players we've lost and the players we've gained since the end of the 2013 season" way but I know how you douche bags are about thread titles.

 

I still say we won the Gordon trade. IMHO Heaney is a number one prospect in the same way Jeremy Hermida was a number one prospect. I just don't think he has ML balls, and I think the Marlins FO knew what they were doing (we may scorn them, but they got us no-names like Brian Morris and Jarrod Cosart last year and turned them into plus WAR heroes). We have Tyler Kolek, so we didn't need him any more. The rest of the rotation once Jose is back is freakishly young, aside from Haren and Latos is a rental. Gordon's stats are not good, but they ain't bad, and we've seen how Butler and co can improve Hech from garbage to horrible. Gordon on base will allow Yelich to draw more walks, with GS and another power bat and Ozuna to follow. Barnes was blocked by Realmuto. I can't say I'll miss Hatcher or Hernandez. Hernandez struck me as another Dallas McPherson.

 

I want to hibernate until the start of next season,.

 

 

 

I don't get the reasoning for spinning the Gordon trade this way.

 

"We have Kolek, so we don't need Heaney" doesn't add up.

First of all, Kolek is at least three years away. Second of all, having one great asset doesn't Mean you don't need more great assets.

 

The team got better but they lost that particular trade.

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I think the Marlins got better so far. Even though they lost the Gordon trade, I really like him as a player (Ideally he's an 8th hole hitter or super utility guy but here we are.)

 

Ii think it's reasonably optimistic to hope he can be a slightly better Emilio Bonifacio. If that's the case, it's not a catastrophic trade, just a slight loss.

 

We won the Latos trade. Even if it's a one year rental, you QO him after the year and get value.

 

Really like the rule V pickup and Scott Sizemore pickup low key. If he's healthy he might actually be better than Garrett Jones *Sips tea*

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The good news about the Gordon trade that we need to mention? It probably means they don't extend Hech.

 

Hey, it even means there is a long shot he becomes expendable after another shitty season, which is a sure thing.

 

 

 

Wishful thinking... They'll try and extend both Hech and Gordon and say "we've locked down our All Star Gold Glove middle infield tandem for years to come. You're welcome "

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Wishful thinking... They'll try and extend both Hech and Gordon and say "we've locked down our All Star Gold Glove middle infield tandem for years to come. You're welcome "

 

 

 

You know, they both actually have really, really good tools defensively. Just make the routine fucking plays guys.

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So, do you think we won or lost?

 

LOST

 

DeSclafani

 

Wallach

 

Heaney

 

Hatcher

 

Hernandez

 

Barnes

 

Jennings

 

Flynn

 

Redman

 

Lucas

 

Brantley

 

Canha

 

Olmos

 

Furcal

 

Gregg

 

Johnson

 

Penny

 

GAINED

 

Latos

 

Gordon

 

Haren

 

Rojas

 

Rienzo

 

Crow

 

McKirahan

 

 

 

who is redman?

 

you cant really say how does this look in trades and half the players lost were from contracts expiring and waivers.

 

comical

 

nevermind, i answered my question, some minor league ham n egger

 

 

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You know, they both actually have really, really good tools defensively. Just make the routine fucking plays guys.

 

This. I mean, look at the ranks:

 

Among second baseman, here is his Inside Edge rank on made play percentage by bucket: Remote (0-10%) 4th, Unlikely (10%-40%) t-3rd, Even (40%-60%) 2nd, Likely (60-90%) 8th, Routine (90-100%) 20th. There are 20 second baseman on this list.

My understanding is that Hech's numbers are actually fairly similar. Need these guys to make the routine plays, once they start doing that, they will be plus defenders imho.

 

source: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/what-do-the-marlins-see-in-dee-gordon/

 

 

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Despite what we gave up to LA, the major league team is better today than it was a week ago. With that said, we're not a true contender until we get that power bat. And if it's a really good one we are capable of catapulting to being serious contenders as opposed to the fringe type of contender we probably are now.

 

 

 

While I agree, I don't think we get much more production from a Pedro Alvarez over Justin Bour. I think we could be a playoff team right now, even with Bour at first.

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