February 2, 20179 yr http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/trade-miami-marlins-san-diego-padres-philadelphia-phillies-boston-red-sox-aj-preller-injury-colin-rea-ken-rosenthal-020217?amp=true Ken Rosenthal with interesting details on last summers shenanigans with the Padres. Turns out when Colin Rea blew out his elbow the Marlins wanted to take back the entire trade and their plan was to trade Naylor to the Phillies for Hellickson which the Phillies had already agreed upon! Then Castillo would be flipped to another team for a controllable starter before the trade deadline. The Marlins couldn't get the entire trade vetoed so they agreed upon Rea returned for Castillo and the Phillies backed off on trading Hellickson to anyone. Also explains why Castillo got traded for Straily. Seems like they were always intent on using Castillo as bait for a controllable starter.
February 2, 20179 yr They coulda traded naylor for hellickson and traded for Cashner instead. Mike hill baby
February 2, 20179 yr They coulda traded naylor for hellickson and traded for Cashner instead. Mike hill baby Pretty much my thought. Naylor is 19 headed for AA possibly this year. Could've had Helickson, went Cashner. Gotta love it
February 2, 20179 yr If this is true...fuck you to all of those people (mostly Erick) who told me I was wrong when I said the Marlins could have gotten Hellickson instead.
February 2, 20179 yr If this is true...fuck you to all of those people (mostly Erick) who told me I was wrong when I said the Marlins could have gotten Hellickson instead. i think the only real fuck you here belongs to mike hill. this trade actually looks even worse now. Only Mike Hill.
February 2, 20179 yr i think the only real fuck you here belongs to mike hill. this trade actually looks even worse now. Only Mike Hill. Of course it looks worse. But there were some idiots here who were defending that trade on the grounds that there was no way in hell that the Marlins could have gotten Hellickson. The premise was basically that the Phillies asking price was too high and that was apparently not true at all.
February 3, 20179 yr "A complete voiding of the initial trade, as the Marlins understood it, would have been complicated by the fact that Cashner already had pitched for them, allowing one earned run in six innings in a 5-4 victory over the Cardinals on July 31." What "COMPLICATED" would prevented them to complete voiding that terrible trade !? as COMPLICATED as Hill's BRAIN !?
February 3, 20179 yr yeah they should've been able to negate that entire trade, Marlins should've been going nuts. This wasn't a 1 for 1 deal, you don't make that trade without all the pieces.
February 3, 20179 yr yeah they should've been able to negate that entire trade, Marlins should've been going nuts. This wasn't a 1 for 1 deal, you don't make that trade without all the pieces. they saw cashner's box score in his first game rather than actually watching how bad he sucks and how lucky he was
February 3, 20179 yr This is just another reason why Mike Hill has no business near any front office. I know [uSER=5078]@pollyvonwog[/uSER] will remember this one. Chicago reportedly asked the Astros for a package including young right-hander Joe Musgrove and top prospects Francis Martes and Kyle Tucker when the two sides last engaged in serious Quintana talks, and that package was deemed too steep by Houston. Musgrove, after all, made his big league debut at age 23 last year and threw 62 solid innings with a 4.06 ERA, 8.0 K/9, 2.3 BB/9 and a 43.4 percent ground-ball rate. He’d be controllable for at least another six seasons and possibly seven, depending on how much service time he accumulates in 2017. Martes and Tucker, meanwhile, are considered two of Houston’s best prospects and both ranked within the game’s top 35 prospect in MLB.com’s recent rankings. (Both were within the top 60 on this week’s top 100 rankings from ESPN’s Keith Law, as well.) Remember Franics Martes? They guy we kind of just threw in the trade for Jared Cosart a couple years ago? Now he is a Top 35 prospect and has been doing quite well in the Houston system.
February 3, 20179 yr Author Apparently they thought the commissioners office wanted them to work out a separate new trade instead of nixing the entire first trade and they thought nixing the entire first trade was complicated by Cashner already pitching a game even though Rea also pitched a game for us. I don't get this.
February 3, 20179 yr Qustion, kind of off subject, but any chance we could get Park for nothing? We just got a new park, what are we, the Braves?
February 3, 20179 yr Qustion, kind of off subject, but any chance we could get Park for nothing? Haven't expressed any real interest in Lee for basically nothing so...
February 3, 20179 yr Author Qustion, kind of off subject, but any chance we could get Park for nothing? Parking at the ballpark garages is usually about $15. You can park for less on someone's lawn in the nearby community. I doubt you can park for nothing unless you do something like park at a nearby business and walk to the ballpark. I tend to just pay up for the parking garages for the convenience of it. Hope this helps, let me know.
February 3, 20179 yr I would move the team back into Dolphins Stadium and use Marlins Park for monster truck rallies if it meant getting rid of Mike Hill forever.
February 4, 20179 yr http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/trade-miami-marlins-san-diego-padres-philadelphia-phillies-boston-red-sox-aj-preller-injury-colin-rea-ken-rosenthal-020217?amp=true Ken Rosenthal with interesting details on last summers shenanigans with the Padres. Turns out when Colin Rea blew out his elbow the Marlins wanted to take back the entire trade and their plan was to trade Naylor to the Phillies for Hellickson which the Phillies had already agreed upon! Then Castillo would be flipped to another team for a controllable starter before the trade deadline. The Marlins couldn't get the entire trade vetoed so they agreed upon Rea returned for Castillo and the Phillies backed off on trading Hellickson to anyone. Also explains why Castillo got traded for Straily. Seems like they were always intent on using Castillo as bait for a controllable starter. My impression is that Hill could not find the way to send Cashner back to San Diego after he had pitched well in his first start and the League preferred to mediate than to cancel the Trade but the option was available to cancel the trade
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