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Closed Clubhouse Meeting?

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The moral of this story: stop crying racism for everything. It's annoying and dilutes the significance of the word.

It's bad optics, if you will...

43 minutes ago, Michael said:

Barstool: "everyone on the team hates Jazz." Lololololol now THAT is a misleading-ass headline.

I really hope the team rallys around Jazz and tells "journalist's" to go fly a kite.  Jazz doesn't deserve to be dragged through the mud like this.  He's the one fucking player that's actually fun to watch. 

Also, after reading everything over the last couple of days, I had to give props to Don for holding the meeting to clear the air instead of letting people continue to talk behind Jazz's back. 

However,  I think he made a mistake by  going to the media with it.  He could have just said that he called a team meeting because we're playing like shit and left it at that.  No one would have doubted him.

Instead, he came out, was really vague about what and who it was about, and it was like throwing blood in the water for these reporters.  Now they are sensationalizing everything.  Even when Don does the right thing, he fucks it up.

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One thing I will say: talking shit behind someone's back is really lame. Especially if it's the best player on the team. These are grown men. If you have a problem with someone's dress style, attitude, etc., talk to them yourself...

Cooper's response to the meeting (something along the lines of, we didn't need it) makes me feel like he was one of the shit-talkers. "Oh we really didn't need this meeting; I didn't need to be called out for being a priss". I wonder if he was involved

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3 minutes ago, Rydawg said:

Also, after reading everything over the last couple of days, I had to give props to Don for holding the meeting to clear the air instead of letting people continue to talk behind Jazz's back. 

However,  I think he made a mistake by  going to the media with it.  He could have just said that he called a team meeting because we're playing like shit and left it at that.  No one would have doubted him.

Instead, he came out, was really vague about what and who it was about, and it was like throwing blood in the water for these reporters.  Now they are sensationalizing everything.  Even when Don does the right thing, he fucks it up.

I can agree with all this.

 

5 minutes ago, Entendu said:

The moral of this story: stop crying racism for everything. It's annoying and dilutes the significance of the word.

It's bad optics, if you will...

I also agree that the word shouldn't be just thrown around willy-nilly but, given the baiting headline, could have been called for in this scenario.

Once context is applied, of course it's not actually that - thus journalists really need to do a better job in conveying their shorter messages.

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1 minute ago, Entendu said:

Cooper's response to the meeting (something along the lines of, we didn't need it) makes me feel like he was one of the shit-talkers. "Oh we really didn't need this meeting; I didn't need to be called out for being a priss". I wonder if he was involved

I'm hoping it's the opposite, that he said we didn't need it because it was truly a non-issue that has been overblown. I'd like to think he supports Jazz fully ...

Won't know unless someone spills the beans from the inside.

2 minutes ago, Michael said:

I can agree with all this.

 

I also agree that the word shouldn't be just thrown around willy-nilly but, given the baiting headline, could have been called for in this scenario.

Once context is applied, of course it's not actually that - thus journalists really need to do a better job in conveying their shorter messages.

What was the headline of this article? Comparing Jazz to Dennis Rodman alone means nothing.

To me, Rodman is an eccentric, burnt out dude (who may actually be a high IQ CIA spy in disguise). I don't know what this has to do with him being black, unless one believes that those are characteristics of being black. I'm not saying you believe that at all, but I question those who shout racism all the time at things like this; it just feels like projection to me

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4 minutes ago, Entendu said:

One thing I will say: talking shit behind someone's back is really lame. Especially if it's the best player on the team. These are grown men. If you have a problem with someone's dress style, attitude, etc., talk to them yourself...

Cooper's response to the meeting (something along the lines of, we didn't need it) makes me feel like he was one of the shit-talkers. "Oh we really didn't need this meeting; I didn't need to be called out for being a priss". I wonder if he was involved

Trade him for a CF’er.

Just now, Entendu said:

I'd trade him and sign Dennis Rodman. The team would be so watchable.

I was a big Dennis Rodman fan. 

1 minute ago, Michael said:

Cooper for Roman Quinn, who says no?

We would definitely say yes, Roman Quinn was our guy and they took him from us. This could be our second chance.

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2 minutes ago, Entendu said:

What was the headline of this article? Comparing Jazz to Dennis Rodman alone means nothing.

To me, Rodman is an eccentric, burnt out dude (who may actually be a high IQ CIA spy in disguise). I don't know what this has to do with him being black, unless one believes that those are characteristics of being black. I'm not saying you believe that at all, but I question those who shout racism all the time at things like this; it just feels like projection to me

Sorry, perhaps not the headline, but the snippet provided.

Truly I can't explain it because it's not something I have experienced, but I think it's in the vein of, "just cause he's a black athlete doesn't mean he has to immediately be compared to another black athlete" - that's ... maybe it. I don't know for sure.

Just now, Michael said:

Cooper for Roman Quinn, who says no?

Oh, God no.  LOL

I will say, if it's the veterans that are complaining,  the same veterans that are playing like shit, I would clean house now where I can.  We're probably better off trading a few of them and bringing up Encarnacion and L Diaz anyway.  It would also send a message to Jazz that the FO has his back.  

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4 minutes ago, Rydawg said:

Oh, God no.  LOL

I will say, if it's the veterans that are complaining,  the same veterans that are playing like shit, I would clean house now where I can.  We're probably better off trading a few of them and bringing up Encarnacion and L Diaz anyway.  It would also send a message to Jazz that the FO has his back.  

Yes, I agree.

13 hours ago, Michael said:

As a guy who wrote an article once, I'm offended.

 

1 hour ago, Michael said:

Sorry, perhaps not the headline, but the snippet provided.

Truly I can't explain it because it's not something I have experienced, but I think it's in the vein of, "just cause he's a black athlete doesn't mean he has to immediately be compared to another black athlete" - that's ... maybe it. I don't know for sure.

 

Off the top of my head, I can’t think of another professional athlete that had blue/brightly colored hair other than Jazz and Rodman.

If that’s the basis for comparison then has nothing to do with race.  It’s literally hair.

"The Worm" was, is, and will always be my favorite nickname for a player in any sport. I highly doubt that will ever be topped. Rodman was a fierce competitor on the court and completely unselfish (he wasn't the worst shooter either). No, I wasn't a fan of any of the teams he played on during his tenure but I thought he was a fantastic player. 

1 hour ago, Entendu said:

Cooper's response to the meeting (something along the lines of, we didn't need it) makes me feel like he was one of the shit-talkers. "Oh we really didn't need this meeting; I didn't need to be called out for being a priss". I wonder if he was involved

I took it completely the opposite and thought it was meant it was like 2 or 3 guys max that took offense and it should have been handled in Don's office between them. Cooper strikes me as a guy who just comes in, does his job, and goes home guy. Not really someone who pays a lot of attention to other guys - also evidenced by his lack of enthusiasm for the steer the boat or car bit when he gets on base.

So dumb. Dennis Rodman is one of my favorite players of all time and one of the greatest players ever. Should be a  compliment unless he has a serious drinking problem or something lol

3 hours ago, Entendu said:

One thing I will say: talking shit behind someone's back is really lame. Especially if it's the best player on the team. These are grown men. If you have a problem with someone's dress style, attitude, etc., talk to them yourself...

Cooper's response to the meeting (something along the lines of, we didn't need it) makes me feel like he was one of the shit-talkers. "Oh we really didn't need this meeting; I didn't need to be called out for being a priss". I wonder if he was involved

Jazz doesn’t follow Cooper on IG. Everybody who Jazz doesn’t follow on IG getting traded.

1 hour ago, Erick said:

Jazz doesn’t follow Cooper on IG. Everybody who Jazz doesn’t follow on IG getting traded.

is that why Das is with the Cardinals now?

Why is Jazz even being discussed? No1 but the players knows what took place in the meeting. It's easy to make up crap and put Jazz in the middle of it because it's "spicy". Chances are it's all made up for media attention. 

Cooper is a quiet dude but man, rocking that shirt speaks volumes.  Only thing I can think of is that it's one or more of the new guys that came over. Stallings strikes me very much like a Cooper type personality in that he comes in, does his job, and heads home.  Would be hilarious if it's big money Avisail who's grousing about how Jazz carries himself. 

Really don't have the slightest clue who would really care THAT much to make it into a thing.  Wendle? He's been out seemingly on the IL for at least 1/3 of the season already though so I don't think he was even at the park when the meeting took place.  Soler loafs on the field as-is so it had better not be him (not that I could do anything about it anyway haha).

Maybe Jazz drilled Tom Koehler's wife?

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