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2022-2023 Offseason Thread

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6 minutes ago, SonOfJack said:

I actually don't hate the idea of trying Jazz in CF.

If we're a WIN NOW team then how could we TRYING something in the regular games ? doesn't matter because they may also TRYING Segura in the 3B.

Just now, TaiwanAstros said:

If we're a WIN NOW team then how could we TRYING something in the regular games ? doesn't matter because they may also TRYING Segura in the 3B.

Well we are clearly not a "win now" team so may as well try it.

3 minutes ago, SonOfJack said:

Well we are clearly not a "win now" team so may as well try it.

I'm TRYING to believe we're a WIN NOW team …

3 minutes ago, TaiwanAstros said:

I don't think they would do their best to acquire a real CF if they had that thinking in mind. 

Well they haven't really tried to get a real CF, so it seems they do have this thinking in mind possibly.

7 minutes ago, Das Texan said:

100% should do just that. 

Why ? he ever played central field in his career ? what if it didn't work ?

55 minutes ago, TaiwanAstros said:

I'm much more upset they didn't offer Abreu 3/60 (or a little fewer because he's reported intrigued to play in the Florida) to match what he got from the Astros and offer him only 2/40, what's not determined ? that's not determined !!!

Feels like with Abreu it was more about the years than the money. I think the money per year was comparable to the Astros. 

22 minutes ago, TaiwanAstros said:

I don't think they would do their best to acquire a real CF if they had that thinking in mind. 

Lately it sure sounds like they are trying hard to get a CF so that may be nothing more than a thought as a backup option. Not every news, note, or rumor means it's concrete stuff. Could literally be something they said once in a meeting. 

41 minutes ago, TaiwanAstros said:

If we're a WIN NOW team then how could we TRYING something in the regular games ? doesn't matter because they may also TRYING Segura in the 3B.

If they're really still looking for upgrades then none of this positional talk matters now because multiple players should be added and subtracted in the next month or so. I'd really wait before thinking anything about positioning right now.

23 minutes ago, TaiwanAstros said:

I don't think they would do their best to acquire a real CF if they had that thinking in mind. 

Jazz is in the lineup anyway so what they need is an offensive upgrade that can come from any place. CF was one of the thinnest talent pools which is gonna require trading from (and thus weakening) the starting pitching , while middle infield was crawling with options to sign. if switching him to center was an option then do that and sign a free agent infielder so you can keep your once in a decade group of pitching together and make a run. Then when you’ve filled the roster enough and you’re “one bat” away then you can bite the bullet and trade from the pitching. But that one bat needs to be a Juan Soto type bat that immediately makes a massive difference and gets you over the hump 

1 hour ago, SonOfJack said:

I actually don't hate the idea of trying Jazz in CF.

You should probably practice a few times first at home in front of some friends and family before you set up in the outfield and perform.

Does anyone remember when 2B Alfonso Soriano played for the Nationals for one season in 2006 and they moved him from 2B to the outfield. And then he went to the Cubs the next year and pretty much remained a LF the rest of his career.

 

This possibility with Chisholm is giving me Soriano vibes. 😂

34 minutes ago, TaiwanAstros said:

Why ? he ever played central field in his career ? what if it didn't work ?

I dont know

That is what you find out in Spring Training, its not like at this point you have any other viable options.

This is what they should have done LAST spring as I said then.  

More competent staff means they might actually do it this time. 

5 minutes ago, SirFishFan said:

Does anyone remember when 2B Alfonso Soriano played for the Nationals for one season in 2006 and they moved him from 2B to the outfield. And then he went to the Cubs the next year and pretty much remained a LF the rest of his career.

 

This possibility with Chisholm is giving me Soriano vibes. 😂

Soriano was also a terrible defender and I dont think he was a SS by trade as well. 

BIG difference.

Also CF is not LF which is where Soriano went because its a far easier position to play than 2b. 

2 minutes ago, Das Texan said:

Soriano was also a terrible defender and I dont think he was a SS by trade as well. 

BIG difference.

Also CF is not LF which is where Soriano went because its a far easier position to play than 2b. 

And Soriano ended up doing pretty well out there overall, didn't he?

9 minutes ago, Das Texan said:

Soriano was also a terrible defender and I dont think he was a SS by trade as well. 

BIG difference.

Also CF is not LF which is where Soriano went because its a far easier position to play than 2b. 

Right.

 

I was more talking about the possibility of Jazz Chisholm being moved to the outfield and then remaining there permanently, at least for his Marlins tenure. Probably won’t happen but seems like something the Marlins FO would do, as it would solve their needing a CF without having to spend any extra money. 😂

 

And funny you should mention that Soriano wasn’t a Shortstop by trade. According to a 2006 article in Baseball Prospectus:

“Most of Soriano’s first full professional season for the Yankees organization came for Norwich of the Double-A Eastern League, although there was also a short stay for Triple-A Columbus. Soriano was a shortstop initially, but clearly was not going to move Derek Jeter off of the position once he arrived to the major leagues”

Source:https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/5729/player-profile-alfonso-soriano/

 

Edited by SirFishFan

Just now, TaiwanAstros said:

Simple and clear, transfer Jazz to a CF and you have only Jazz, acquire a CF and you have Jazz and that CF.

But they aren't acquiring a CF so this is an interesting alternative

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