May 9, 200917 yr You guys can qualify and draw lines however you like, but EB's BA is 50 points higher than Maybin. In this case it is the difference between respectability and the Mendoza line. Further, Maybin and EB have struck out the same number of times, with EB having 50% more ABs. "yea, its soooo laughable how much the management (read: conspiracy participants ) loves EB" but then no one scrutinizes their own feelings... Maybin has been hyped up big time since the deal with Detroit but no one questions that form of brainwashing. This news has nothing to do with Bonifacio, by the way. Nevertheless, what a shocker that he would get brought up in this thread.
May 9, 200917 yr It was bound to happen. Just needs to fix some mechanics, lets see what Coughlan can do. More importantly, it seems we have a need to go out and get some sort of insurance pitcher for both Miller and Sanchez, as well as at the deadline trade for some relief help. I still feel that we should spend that $3 million to get Pedro Martinez at this point. I know its not the smartest investment money wise, but it will simply be a contract just until the end of the season. Pedro is not good though. Pedro at this point adds some needed depth, and can be a serviceable 4.50 ERA kind of guy with a good K number. And would give us some more time to give Miller to develop, just for the season. I don't think Miller is quite ready for the majors, really. Pedro had a 5.61 ERA last season with a 1.569 WHIP last season. He had a much better ERA the previous season, which of course only lasted a month. We can get that from Badenhop. but then we are taking the ball away from one of our better long relief pitchers this season. Put Bandenhop into the lineup and who do we have left in the majors for long relief, Penn and... I have several guys mulling in the minor leagues that are fine as a #7 bullpen arm.
May 9, 200917 yr It was bound to happen. Just needs to fix some mechanics, lets see what Coughlan can do. More importantly, it seems we have a need to go out and get some sort of insurance pitcher for both Miller and Sanchez, as well as at the deadline trade for some relief help. I still feel that we should spend that $3 million to get Pedro Martinez at this point. I know its not the smartest investment money wise, but it will simply be a contract just until the end of the season. Pedro is not good though. Pedro at this point adds some needed depth, and can be a serviceable 4.50 ERA kind of guy with a good K number. And would give us some more time to give Miller to develop, just for the season. I don't think Miller is quite ready for the majors, really. Pedro had a 5.61 ERA last season with a 1.569 WHIP last season. He had a much better ERA the previous season, which of course only lasted a month. We can get that from Badenhop. but then we are taking the ball away from one of our better long relief pitchers this season. Put Bandenhop into the lineup and who do we have left in the majors for long relief, Penn and... Ugh...how many long relievers would you like? Most teams only have 1. Plus, Meyer has shown he can give innings in relief, as well, in case the emergency occurs where Penn can't be used one day.
May 9, 200917 yr Ill admit i rip on boni but how can some of you rip so much on him yet give maybin this pass. At least Boni did well for a little bit this year while maybin has stunk it up from day 1. Really both shouldnt be in the lineup.
May 9, 200917 yr Ill admit i rip on boni but how can some of you rip so much on him yet give maybin this pass. At least Boni did well for a little bit this year while maybin has stunk it up from day 1. Really both shouldnt be in the lineup. I don't think Maybin has been any better than Boni. But, I'd like Maybin to see ML pitching and couldn't care less what kind of pitching Boni sees, as long as it's not in our starting lineup.
May 9, 200917 yr Ill admit i rip on boni but how can some of you rip so much on him yet give maybin this pass. At least Boni did well for a little bit this year while maybin has stunk it up from day 1. Really both shouldnt be in the lineup. I don't think Maybin has been any better than Boni. But, I'd like Maybin to see ML pitching and couldn't care less what kind of pitching Boni sees, as long as it's not in our starting lineup. He does see it and it goes right by him. He looks so over matched and lost. I dont think the minors will hurt him. I expceted maybin to struggle but not this much. Going to the minors could hopefully get his confidence back also. We have to get him going some how.
May 9, 200917 yr Ill admit i rip on boni but how can some of you rip so much on him yet give maybin this pass. At least Boni did well for a little bit this year while maybin has stunk it up from day 1. Really both shouldnt be in the lineup. Personally I think it's because nobody really likes the idea of a having the worst hitting 3b in all of baseball... I mean to go from Lowell, Cabrera, Cantu to Bonifacio is a joke! From those all stars to this guy who is a strike out machine, and has ZERO power!!!! He can't even run the bases or steal properly! Yes he's fast but he doesn't know what he's doing out there, and it's dumb to have the hard on the front office for the fish had with him cus he's fast. What good is speed if you CANT MAKE CONTACT? He is nothing but a Pinch Runner at best, and that's why people have hated on him so much, and as for Mayben well he stinks! He's terrible, and he will never develop from looking at him out there he simply is clue less of what's going on at the plate, and takes terrible strides in the OF after balls. Also I don't think people will ever really except Mayben because we lost Cabrera a future hall of famer to the tigers and got him in return as the big name coming back. Unless he produces like Cabrera he will always have people hate on him... I know I'll never forgive the front office the Cabrera trade! That's the worst in baseball history since the Red Sox sold the BABE to the Yankees!
May 9, 200917 yr You guys can qualify and draw lines however you like, but EB's BA is 50 points higher than Maybin. In this case it is the difference between respectability and the Mendoza line. Further, Maybin and EB have struck out the same number of times, with EB having 50% more ABs. "yea, its soooo laughable how much the management (read: conspiracy participants ) loves EB" but then no one scrutinizes their own feelings... Maybin has been hyped up big time since the deal with Detroit but no one questions that form of brainwashing. This news has nothing to do with Bonifacio, by the way. Nevertheless, what a shocker that he would get brought up in this thread. How does it have nothing to do with Boni? It has everything to do with him, as many think that he should be replaced by Coghlan, not Maybin.
May 9, 200917 yr Ill admit i rip on boni but how can some of you rip so much on him yet give maybin this pass. At least Boni did well for a little bit this year while maybin has stunk it up from day 1. Really both shouldnt be in the lineup. Personally I think it's because nobody really likes the idea of a having the worst hitting 3b in all of baseball... I mean to go from Lowell, Cabrera, Cantu to Bonifacio is a joke! From those all stars to this guy who is a strike out machine, and has ZERO power!!!! He can't even run the bases or steal properly! Yes he's fast but he doesn't know what he's doing out there, and it's dumb to have the hard on the front office for the fish had with him cus he's fast. What good is speed if you CANT MAKE CONTACT? He is nothing but a Pinch Runner at best, and that's why people have hated on him so much, and as for Mayben well he stinks! He's terrible, and he will never develop from looking at him out there he simply is clue less of what's going on at the plate, and takes terrible strides in the OF after balls. Also I don't think people will ever really except Mayben because we lost Cabrera a future hall of famer to the tigers and got him in return as the big name coming back. Unless he produces like Cabrera he will always have people hate on him... I know I'll never forgive the front office the Cabrera trade! That's the worst in baseball history since the Red Sox sold the BABE to the Yankees! I dont expect him to match what miggy did.
May 9, 200917 yr Ill admit i rip on boni but how can some of you rip so much on him yet give maybin this pass. At least Boni did well for a little bit this year while maybin has stunk it up from day 1. Really both shouldnt be in the lineup. I don't think Maybin has been any better than Boni. But, I'd like Maybin to see ML pitching and couldn't care less what kind of pitching Boni sees, as long as it's not in our starting lineup. He does see it and it goes right by him. He looks so over matched and lost. I dont think the minors will hurt him. I expceted maybin to struggle but not this much. Going to the minors could hopefully get his confidence back also. We have to get him going some how. I think we rushed him just like Detroit rushed him. He struggled in the first half of last year at AA but improved in the second half but it's not like he was the second coming of Miggy. He got called up in September because he is "the future" and he performed admirably, hitting singles in bunches. But this year he is clearly overmatched at the plate and I don't think we're doing him any favors, nor the team, more importantly, by throwing him out there repeatedly to fail. He's only 22. He may be a stud one day but right now he needs to work on his game and not handicap the big league club.
May 9, 200917 yr The way posters rip on 22 year old rookies on this board is amazing. When he's on pace to set records for strike outs, and hits 1 HR a month with 3Rbi and a .208 avg what you want for us to praise his awesome OF play? Well guess what he isn't that good out there either. Personally I think we should let Chris Coghlan take a crack at 3b while Amezega, and Brett Carroll split time in CF... I'd like to see what Carroll could do with some actual playing time! He has the best arm on the team out there, and he covers the OF perfectly for a CF. He's our best OF right now, and I think we should see what he has I mean we have allowed Mayben to stink up the joint for an entire month... Lets give someone else a chance.
May 9, 200917 yr The way posters rip on 22 year old rookies on this board is amazing. When he's on pace to set records for strike outs, and hits 1 HR a month with 3Rbi and a .208 avg what you want for us to praise his awesome OF play? Well guess what he isn't that good out there either. Personally I think we should let Chris Coghlan take a crack at 3b while Amezega, and Brett Carroll split time in CF... I'd like to see what Carroll could do with some actual playing time! He has the best arm on the team out there, and he covers the OF perfectly for a CF. He's our best OF right now, and I think we should see what he has I mean we have allowed Mayben to stink up the joint for an entire month... Lets give someone else a chance. Brett Carroll would put up the same line as Maybin, minus the home run
May 9, 200917 yr Wow! You wanna say how bad Maybin sucks, yet you want Carrol to play. Yea, you know what you're talking about.
May 9, 200917 yr The way posters rip on 22 year old rookies on this board is amazing. When he's on pace to set records for strike outs, and hits 1 HR a month with 3Rbi and a .208 avg what you want for us to praise his awesome OF play? Well guess what he isn't that good out there either. He's not on pace for the strike out record. Small victory?
May 9, 200917 yr I'd rather have 2 Bonifacios in the lineup than see De Aza again. why? They have similar skills but De Aza walks, and can bunt for a hit. Its not like De Aza ever got a fair chance, after he got hurt he wasn't the same. I rather go with the one that has a .380+ obp at AAA.
May 9, 200917 yr Ok I have an Idea............ I know I'm not the manager but still......... why not start amezaga in 3rd base and in the leadoff spot. and let Boni be a nice utility player off the bench. I know that having Amezaga off the bench is a great comfortable thing for Fredi, but even if you start him at 3rd base and you need him to cover an outfield spot in late innings you can use Boni at third or even Chris Coghlan. I know that Alfredo is not the best hitter but that defense is amazing, so if Boni is struggling at the leadoff spot you can at least expect amezaga giving you quality at bats in that spot in the lineup. I'm sorry but for me this makes absolute sense. PS Boni has shown good d fence but Amezaga's D is just way to better.
May 9, 200917 yr I remember when Adam Jones was called up and had a .548 OPS for the Mariners. He sucks.
May 9, 200917 yr De Aza is actually doing well this year in AAA. .311/.395/.446/.841. Walking 11% of the time with a 0.64 BB/K I'm not saying I want him up, I'm just saying he's doing well.
May 9, 200917 yr This news has nothing to do with Bonifacio, by the way. How does it have nothing to do with Boni? It has everything to do with him, as many think that he should be replaced by Coghlan, not Maybin. In other words, the reason that the news pertains to EB is because people think it should be EB instead of Maybin getting sent down. If that's what you mean, I agree.
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