Yea def not gonna take Cog's spot but why on earth would he play left

 

 

For next year, when Uggla departs and Coghlan moves to 2nd base.

Didn't he spend an entire fall in Arizona playing LF?

Didn't he spend an entire fall in Arizona playing LF?

 

Yes.

Dude is raking in NOLA. .309/.426/.553 line so far (OPS of .984). Is there any way we can find a spot for this kid this season? With Stanton up, Coghlan getting back to form, and Gaby doing well, it's hard to find a place for him.

Dude is raking in NOLA. .309/.426/.553 line so far (OPS of .984). Is there any way we can find a spot for this kid this season? With Stanton up, Coghlan getting back to form, and Gaby doing well, it's hard to find a place for him.

 

 

At the risk of being accused of being a Morrison-hater as I was the last time I brought this possibility up, and now with Stanton officially in the bigs, Logan Morrison will probably be the most discussed Marlins trading prospect this summer just like Stanton was during the last. Clearly the guy can rake and unless they can get fair and beneficial (to the overall makeup of the team) compensation for Gaby which I doubt, it leaves LM and that kid Martinez (offense-wise) as probably the biggest attentiongetters.

I agree. He should be able to net us a really good ML player, though. You don't trade the guy for an okay reliever.

It's really starting to look like Morrison is going to be a real impact player, as he's starting to put his total skillset together in AAA, as he's showing the power, plate discipline, and batting average he's shown before in spurts all at once.

 

I'd hate to trade him for a reliever.

 

I'd absolutely trade Gaby before I traded Morrison, and I'm one of Gaby's biggest fans.

He still only has 3 HR. His ISO is boosted by 5 triples, although that's not necessarily a bad thing. And he's still just 22! He's just flat-out hit at every level. I'm excited for him, even if it's not until next year.

 

Also, count me in the crowd that doesn't want to trade him for bullpen arm.

Trading our current (now) top hitting prospect who looks to be our future starting 1B for a reliever is beyond dumb.

 

Any discussion of doing so needs to stop. It shouldn't and never will happen. I understand trading the beast Adrian Gonzalez for Urbina worked (as we won the WS), but I don't think there isn't at least a part of us that still wishes we had A-Gon. This team isn't a guy like Urbina away from a championship, we are a Minnesota Twins bullpen away from even sniffing a championship.

Morrison should not be traded unless we are getting the best bullpen back in return. Not just one reliever, but an ENTIRE bullpen.

Trading our current (now) top hitting prospect who looks to be our future starting 1B for a reliever is beyond dumb.

 

Any discussion of doing so needs to stop. It shouldn't and never will happen.

 

I totally agree so let's hope that the Marlins feel the same way.

Again not a knock on Morrison but one thing that may diminish his value as a trade chip, were he to be the subject of interest, is his injury history. He's no Nick Johnson but teams will use it against us if that's where negotiations were headed.

Hopefully there are no negotiations for Morrison in the first place. Heres how the Marlins should handle teams inquiring about him:

Other GM:"Hey, Admin, we heard you need a reliever and we got a middle reliever we might not be able to hang on to and another one in AA who could be with the club this year"

Admin Beinfest: "GFY" *click*

 

This team has so many holes that trading one of the top prospects in baseball for bullpen help would be such an epic fail Admin Beinfest would deserve to get publicly flogged, especially when said help isnt going to get the Marlins any closer to the postseason.

There's a lot of talk about there being no room for Logan to play with Gaby doing well. Please don't cast me as a hater because I've thought Gaby has been overdue for a chance to play at the major league level, but is Gaby really doing all that well for a first basemen? He has a good plate approach, which is certainly rare in this lineup, but his OBP isn't anything special and nearly all of his hard hit balls are foul or caught at the warning track. We can get much, much better than that at first base. He's an older rookie too, so there isn't really a whole lot of projection there. In short, I'm saying that Gaby is pretty much what we expected him to be in that he is a good hitter who is still not that great of a hitter for a first baseman.

 

The middle range for Morrison's possible major league production is around where Gaby is now, but with the potential to add power significantly exceeding that of Gaby's. I worry that the genuine power may never happen, but the OBP and AVG should easily be in Gaby range once he adjusts to major league pitching. I don't know what Morrison's real timetable is, but I do know that this team isn't very good right now and while we're not getting horrible production out of first, we could be better there. Why not try to improve if the opportunity is there. The bigger question will be when that opportunity actually presents itself in the form of a major league ready Morrison.

I don't think anyone really thinks that Gaby has first base locked down. If the Marlins have a productive outfield and Morrison is considered to be ready, I think Gaby will be moved aside.

 

I stand up for Gaby when members here say silly things about him, but I sure don't see him being a long term piece as a starter.

Hopefully there are no negotiations for Morrison in the first place. Heres how the Marlins should handle teams inquiring about him:

Other GM:"Hey, Admin, we heard you need a reliever and we got a middle reliever we might not be able to hang on to and another one in AA who could be with the club this year"

Admin Beinfest: "GFY" *click*

 

This team has so many holes that trading one of the top prospects in baseball for bullpen help would be such an epic fail Admin Beinfest would deserve to get publicly flogged, especially when said help isnt going to get the Marlins any closer to the postseason.

 

 

If the Marlins ever want to get much of anything, its gonna involve giving up a player like Morrison. Not that I really advocate trading him, but it was pretty clear last year that teams looking for deadline deals wanted a Maybin or Morrison. Nobody was worth that, and there may not be any this year worth that either. And this team may not be worth that either.

 

Still, I'd like to see the Marlins do more than just keep around players until they become too expensive & actually attempt once to do whats necessary to contend. Sometimes that involves trading young talent. Either way, having a team that is 2/3 of a good roster every year is all this team has been content to do, and they're too scared of trying to get that extra 1/3 that is needed to really compete in case what they're trying doesn't work. This isn't a blueprint for success, it's a blueprint for continued mediocrity.

Trading Morrison for bullpen help when there are a multitude of problems of this team independent of the bullpen is a mistake.

Gaby is also one of those rare first basemen that doesn't hit for power.

Is .976 OPS any good?

If we trade away a future stud first baseman for one bullpen arm again I'll flip out. I know Urbina helped out a lot in 03 but there's no way it was worth Adrian. If the Marlins don't make that trade who knows, maybe they got another reliever of similar caliber without having to have to give up a first overall pick for god sakes. No one trades first overall picks for bullpen help, nobody.

 

I hope Beinfest learned from that mistake.

I don't think anyone really thinks that Gaby has first base locked down. If the Marlins have a productive outfield and Morrison is considered to be ready, I think Gaby will be moved aside.

 

I stand up for Gaby when members here say silly things about him, but I sure don't see him being a long term piece as a starter.

 

 

I'm all for leaving Logan down in AAA for the season to prove his bat isn't coming in spurts and he can stay healthy. He just looked so lost at the plate this ST, even tho his defense was great. Bring him up when rosters expand and give him a good look.

 

Logan has always been advwertised as our 1B of the fiture. If he shows his bat is ready next ST I wouldn't expect Gaby to be breaking camp with us.

There's a lot of talk about there being no room for Logan to play with Gaby doing well. Please don't cast me as a hater because I've thought Gaby has been overdue for a chance to play at the major league level, but is Gaby really doing all that well for a first basemen? He has a good plate approach, which is certainly rare in this lineup, but his OBP isn't anything special and nearly all of his hard hit balls are foul or caught at the warning track. We can get much, much better than that at first base. He's an older rookie too, so there isn't really a whole lot of projection there. In short, I'm saying that Gaby is pretty much what we expected him to be in that he is a good hitter who is still not that great of a hitter for a first baseman.

 

The middle range for Morrison's possible major league production is around where Gaby is now, but with the potential to add power significantly exceeding that of Gaby's. I worry that the genuine power may never happen, but the OBP and AVG should easily be in Gaby range once he adjusts to major league pitching. I don't know what Morrison's real timetable is, but I do know that this team isn't very good right now and while we're not getting horrible production out of first, we could be better there. Why not try to improve if the opportunity is there. The bigger question will be when that opportunity actually presents itself in the form of a major league ready Morrison.

 

 

Fair post and I like Gaby too. I think he's pretty much doing as expected - which is to say that for the money, he's fine. If he improves with more major league experience he could be a good value, I doubt we'd see a huge power increase but no reason why the average and on-base couldn't keep creeping up. And he hasn't even had a full season yet.

 

If we had more talent in the outfield sure I could see him getting squeezed out. The only reason I bring up Morrison in the outfield is that if/when some of the vet guys are moved I don't think we have an outfielder who is clearly better than Gaby is at first. And that's assuming Maybin can hold down one of the spots. If there is, by all means let's go PlayerX-Maybin-Stanton and give Morrison the 1B shot. I wish Gaby were a better 3B than he apparently is, that would help too.

 

He's the kinda guy that by being average and cheap would allow you to spend some money elsewhere... starting pitching, etc.

I don't think anyone really thinks that Gaby has first base locked down. If the Marlins have a productive outfield and Morrison is considered to be ready, I think Gaby will be moved aside.

 

I stand up for Gaby when members here say silly things about him, but I sure don't see him being a long term piece as a starter.

 

 

I'm all for leaving Logan down in AAA for the season to prove his bat isn't coming in spurts and he can stay healthy. He just looked so lost at the plate this ST, even tho his defense was great. Bring him up when rosters expand and give him a good look.

 

Logan has always been advwertised as our 1B of the fiture. If he shows his bat is ready next ST I wouldn't expect Gaby to be breaking camp with us.

 

The bat is ready now...There isn't anything for him to gain right now, except some more polish in the Outfield

I am trying to figure out how to improve on .400+ OBP....500+ OBP?

If anyone think he is on a hot streak you couldnt be farther from the truth If anything He can hit even better

Where did the "Morrison for bullpen" rumor start? It's not really being considered, is it?