December 11, 201114 yr I'm still ok with trying to trade for Wade Davis I don't understand the fuss over Wade Davis or how he would be an upgrade in our rotation. Not trying to be rude or anything. It's just that his peripherals aren't great and had an ERA of about 4.50 last season. personally I think hes durable and he'd fare much better in the NL
December 12, 201114 yr how come nobody is taking into account that our infield defense should be better this year? This should help out guys like volstad who is a groundball pitcher. I'm not saying this will make our pitchers cy winners but it should help their numbers.....am i wrong in thinking this way? True, But remains to see how hanley performs at 3rd At the very least the defense will improve for the right handers.
December 15, 201114 yr Author So I doubt we even placed a bid on Yu and Volstad has been tendered a contract. 1) Josh Johnson - 2.40 ERA 2) Mark Buerhle - 3.30 ERA 3) Anibal Sanchez - 3.40 ERA 4) Ricky Nolasco - 4.00 ERA 5) Chris Volstad - 4.75 ERA I think those are all reasonable. Mark Buerhle is the biggest wild card. Also if Sanabia or Hand wins the 5th spot, they could post an even lower ERA for the 5th spot. But then again, I believe Volstad has the potential to put up a 4.00 ERA.
December 15, 201114 yr So I doubt we even placed a bid on Yu and Volstad has been tendered a contract. 1) Josh Johnson - 2.40 ERA 2) Mark Buerhle - 3.30 ERA 3) Anibal Sanchez - 3.40 ERA 4) Ricky Nolasco - 4.00 ERA 5) Chris Volstad - 4.75 ERA I think those are all reasonable. Mark Buerhle is the biggest wild card. Also if Sanabia or Hand wins the 5th spot, they could post an even lower ERA for the 5th spot. But then again, I believe Volstad has the potential to put up a 4.00 ERA. Those are all very optimistic. I would place a large bet that it's not the case that every one of them comes in at or below those ERAs.
December 15, 201114 yr 1) Johnson 2.85 ERA 2) Buehrle 3.50 ERA 3) Nolasco 3.82 ERA 4) Sanchez 3.65 ERA 5) Volstad 3.88 ERA Peripherals and xFIP numbers are good clues. Great rotation
December 15, 201114 yr I honestly don't see nolasco having an era above 4.3. I don't see it happening. He has good stuff, didn't have a good year but some people are seriously over reacting on one year Well, seeing his last 3 seasons, he's had an ERA north of 4.5, saying under 4.3 could be a bit of a stretch - however, possible. I wouldn't mind seeing 2008 Ricky back.
December 15, 201114 yr So I doubt we even placed a bid on Yu and Volstad has been tendered a contract. 1) Josh Johnson - 2.40 ERA 2) Mark Buerhle - 3.30 ERA 3) Anibal Sanchez - 3.40 ERA 4) Ricky Nolasco - 4.00 ERA 5) Chris Volstad - 4.75 ERA I think those are all reasonable. Mark Buerhle is the biggest wild card. Also if Sanabia or Hand wins the 5th spot, they could post an even lower ERA for the 5th spot. But then again, I believe Volstad has the potential to put up a 4.00 ERA. Those are incredibly optimistic. I'd take the "over" on every one. I think the closest projection there would be Volstad. Buehrle hasn't had an ERA under 3.59 since 2005. How do you project a 3.30 ERA for him? A league change doesn't account for that much. Keep in mind he's also a year older now.
December 15, 201114 yr anyone think that maybe we're waiting for matt cain to hit free agency next season and pursue him aggressively??
December 15, 201114 yr Johnson: 2.85 (less than 200 innings) Buehrle: 3.75 Sanchez: 3.60 Nolasco: 4.50 Volstad: 4.80 I think we see something like that. I hate to be a pessimist, but I highly doubt Johnson gives a full season of work, which is something that the "rotation is fine" people don't seem to take into account.
December 15, 201114 yr Halfway through the season aren't there trades? Maybe, if not now, we'll improve our rotation then?
December 15, 201114 yr Johnson: 2.85 (less than 200 innings) Buehrle: 3.75 Sanchez: 3.60 Nolasco: 4.50 Volstad: 4.80 I think we see something like that. I hate to be a pessimist, but I highly doubt Johnson gives a full season of work, which is something that the "rotation is fine" people don't seem to take into account. You can only comment about what we see on paper. With JJ, our rotation is fine. Even with Volstad as our number 5.
December 15, 201114 yr Johnson: 2.85 (less than 200 innings) Buehrle: 3.75 Sanchez: 3.60 Nolasco: 4.50 Volstad: 4.80 I think we see something like that. I hate to be a pessimist, but I highly doubt Johnson gives a full season of work, which is something that the "rotation is fine" people don't seem to take into account. You can only comment about what we see on paper. With JJ, our rotation is fine. Even with Volstad as our number 5. No. Nothing happens in a vacuum. In assessing the preparedness of the rotation for 2012, Johnson's health status needs to be discussed because it is a legitimate question. Baseball games are not won on paper. We live in the real world.
December 15, 201114 yr Author Buerhle has dominated the NL in his interleague play time (24-6, 3.32 ERA) so It'll be interesting in how he manages for a whole season. And yeah, I was being a bit optimistic. I guess those are what I see as best case scenarios for this rotation, but definitely not impossible. They're all within grasp. Health is an issue, but the Marlins also have some depth. Brad Hand and Alex Sanabia have proven to be solid replacements, and Wade LeBlanc shouldn't be absolutely terrible.
December 15, 201114 yr Johnson: 2.85 (less than 200 innings) Buehrle: 3.75 Sanchez: 3.60 Nolasco: 4.50 Volstad: 4.80 I think we see something like that. I hate to be a pessimist, but I highly doubt Johnson gives a full season of work, which is something that the "rotation is fine" people don't seem to take into account. You can only comment about what we see on paper. With JJ, our rotation is fine. Even with Volstad as our number 5. No. Nothing happens in a vacuum. In assessing the preparedness of the rotation for 2012, Johnson's health status needs to be discussed because it is a legitimate question. Baseball games are not won on paper. We live in the real world. Then predict for us when JJs injury will happen so we can give you a better answer about our rotation.
December 15, 201114 yr Johnson: 2.85 (less than 200 innings) Buehrle: 3.75 Sanchez: 3.60 Nolasco: 4.50 Volstad: 4.80 I think we see something like that. I hate to be a pessimist, but I highly doubt Johnson gives a full season of work, which is something that the "rotation is fine" people don't seem to take into account. You can only comment about what we see on paper. With JJ, our rotation is fine. Even with Volstad as our number 5. No. Nothing happens in a vacuum. In assessing the preparedness of the rotation for 2012, Johnson's health status needs to be discussed because it is a legitimate question. Baseball games are not won on paper. We live in the real world. You can't predict injuries, to be fair. Before the season begins, all we have is paper.
December 15, 201114 yr You can't predict injuries, to be fair. Before the season begins, all we have is paper. But also to be fair, Josh Johnson has a consistent injury history and has recorded only one 200+ IP season. He's so injury prone, I kind of expect him to go on the DL at least once a year. I don't like to be pessimistic about it, and I really hope he proves me wrong.
December 15, 201114 yr You worry about it when it happens. If he does get injured, there's always the trade market. Until then, with JJ, our rotation is fine.
December 15, 201114 yr Johnson: 2.85 (less than 200 innings) Buehrle: 3.75 Sanchez: 3.60 Nolasco: 4.50 Volstad: 4.80 I think we see something like that. I hate to be a pessimist, but I highly doubt Johnson gives a full season of work, which is something that the "rotation is fine" people don't seem to take into account. I came up with almost the same numbers: Johnson: 2.75 Buehrle: 3.75 Sanchez: 3.60 Nolasco: 4.50 Volstad: 4.75
December 15, 201114 yr Johnson: 2.85 (less than 200 innings) Buehrle: 3.75 Sanchez: 3.60 Nolasco: 4.50 Volstad: 4.80 I think we see something like that. I hate to be a pessimist, but I highly doubt Johnson gives a full season of work, which is something that the "rotation is fine" people don't seem to take into account. You can only comment about what we see on paper. With JJ, our rotation is fine. Even with Volstad as our number 5. No. Nothing happens in a vacuum. In assessing the preparedness of the rotation for 2012, Johnson's health status needs to be discussed because it is a legitimate question. Baseball games are not won on paper. We live in the real world. You can't predict injuries, to be fair. Before the season begins, all we have is paper. The paper I'm looking at shows his injury history.
December 15, 201114 yr At least Josh Johnson doesn't get blisters like another Josh we knew pretty well...
December 16, 201114 yr What will it cost to bring in edwin jackson? I dont know, but according to beat writers we are not interested.
December 16, 201114 yr I really hope they try and land Saunders. He doesn't have to have the kind of year he had last season to be successful and a good left-handed #4-5 in our rotation, but if he DOES do it again what a pick-up. Looks like he could probably be had on a 2-year, $16 Million type of deal. Lower risk, high reward. Another lefty to face the NL East hitters, in a pitchers park, with Buerhle's brain to pick. Not a bad situation.
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