Is anyone else mad about Jennings getting called and Hand getting the spot? Doesn't seem like it.

No, who gives a damn. Enough with Eli freaking Villanueva, he sucks.

couldn't you at least pass around some of what you're smoking?

Just fresh air man, nothing else. We've won twenty games so far, Jose is responsible for about five of them. Whatever helped us win the other fifteen is still here. That's all I'm saying.

Unlikely yes. Possible too.

 

You're being ridiculous.

No. They didn't have much of a chance even with Fernandez in rotation. They probably will lose about 4 games more now with him out of the picture no matter who they replace him with.

I just don't get it. Hand has been arguably the worst pitcher still on the team. We have good talent in AAA. But we just give the spot to Hand. It's almost as if they just said "screw it" and got lazy.

Just fresh air man, nothing else. We've won twenty games so far, Jose is responsible for about five of them. Whatever helped us win the other fifteen is still here. That's all I'm saying.

 

It's not likely to stay that way. There are a bunch of guys performing above their projections and career norms.

It's not likely to stay that way. There are a bunch of guys performing above their projections and career norms.

 

Some would just call that improvement.

No, who gives a damn. Enough with Eli freaking Villanueva, he sucks.

Yeah Brad Hand is better. Sorry.

Might as well call up Flynn now to replace him and then would love to see Conley replace Turner eventually with Desclafini in the bullpen at some point before the end of the year.

I just don't get it. Hand has been arguably the worst pitcher still on the team. We have good talent in AAA. But we just give the spot to Hand. It's almost as if they just said "screw it" and got lazy.

 

First, I think you are overrating the guys in AAA and it's not even a guarantee that they match Hand's production. Second, Hand was only given two starts this season and it couldn't hurt to give them a couple more before they cut him loose due to a lack of options. It's not like people are saying that Hand should be guaranteed a spot from now through September. I think you fail to understand that.

Yeah Brad Hand is better. Sorry.

 

They both probably suck but you are overrating Villanueva for some reason.

It's not likely to stay that way. There are a bunch of guys performing above their projections and career norms.

 

Yeah totally agree but that was bound to happen with Jose healthy too, which is obvious. I dunno, maybe I'm misreading it but I feel like some people are thinking we won't win another game this year just cuz Jose is gone.

Yeah Brad Hand is better. Sorry.

it won't be Hand in the long term but whatever.

They both probably suck but you are overrating Villanueva for some reason.

The point is give someone else a shot. Hand is horrible.

Yeah totally agree but that was bound to happen with Jose healthy too, which is obvious. I dunno, maybe I'm misreading it but I feel like some people are thinking we won't win another game this year just cuz Jose is gone.

 

If the regression was bound to happen with Jose around anyway, that's exactly why you throw in the towel.

it won't be Hand in the long term but whatever.

It's him now. It shouldn't be.

 

By the way, hope you catch whoever pissed in your cereal.

The point is give someone else a shot. Hand is horrible.

 

He's gotten two starts this season. I wouldn't call that much of a shot.

 

I'm not high on Hand overall, but I agree with Erick in saying that under the present circumstances the Marlins would be wise to start with Hand and then proceed from there.

A crying shame.

 

Almost all for Jose

I'd rather they just do the surgery than have him wait around on the DL, giving us false hope, then coming back and getting injured even more. Just put the stake in our hearts now.

Some would just call that improvement.

 

So Koehler has "improved" and is now a 1.99 ERA pitcher? The things you say sometimes...

They both probably suck but you are overrating Villanueva for some reason.

Actually the funny thing is villanueva outperformed Hand last year in triple A. So both suck. Both had a FIP one run higher than Flynn.

I would like to see el penguino say one positive thing about this team. It would be a welcome change.

 

It's like having Eeyore on the board.

If we draft a pitcher this year, let's just start him out with Tommy John surgery.

Carlos Rodon!

I would like to see el penguino say one positive thing about this team. It would be a welcome change.

 

It's like having Eeyore on the board.

 

What have I said in this thread that's more pessimistic than what anyone else has said? Or far from reality?

 

Spike is the one who said that Fernandez has become Matt Morris now and then you call me out for negativity? I'm not saying anything that isn't objectively supported by stats.

I would like to see el penguino say one positive thing about this team. It would be a welcome change.

 

It's like having Eeyore on the board.

he doesn't do that sort of thing.

I'm not saying it's incredibly awful that Fernandez is hurt and the season is in jeopardy. That is true. But the whining and complaining in this thread and on the board has been ridiculous.

 

We get it, some of the pitchers are overperforming and some of the hitters are overperforming. Regression will happen.

 

But nobody ever mentions that the bullpen won't be this bad forever. The defense will improve. Some of the hitters we have on this team MAY actually be improving.

 

I'm not calling this a playoff team. I'm not that crazy right now. But even without Jose, the talent on this team is real, and giving up on us right now is unbelievably ridiculous. We're still over .500, we've still got 3 pitchers who have been pitching ridiculously well.

 

Oh, and we have that guy Giancarlo Stanton. He's fun to watch sometimes.

 

So the team will move on from the injury. There's was a time when we didn't even think Fernandez would be in the major leagues until 2015 anyway.. We still have enough talent on this roster to compete.