Just thinking out loud here... Imagine if the Marlins were able to piece it together the next month and then get Stanton back strong. Might make for a decent September actually. Not the playoff run we expected but we could hopefully at least be one of those teams that has a nice end to the year to build to 2016.

 

As for the trade deadline... Gotta hope they don't mistakenly pick up a Carlos Lee veteran type right fielder in an attempt to salvage this season. Without giving up hope on the field, the focus of the front office off the field should already be on 2016, and beyond really. 

 

while miricles do happen in the World, you really shouldnt bank on them.  I mean sure, someone out there is going to win the lottery (3 times), just not you.  Same concept.

 

 

while miricles do happen in the World, you really shouldnt bank on them.  I mean sure, someone out there is going to win the lottery (3 times), just not you.  Same concept.

 

Depends on what lottery. I know for a fact no one's going to win the Powerball or Mega Million 3 times.

 

 

I absolutely wasn't banking on that. Like I said it was just a thought. It was an "imagine how cool this would be" thought and nothing more. Really all I said was we could have a nice September. Plenty of shit teams have decent September runs.

 

Geez, its like if people aren't allowed to have happy thoughts around here.

 

 

Marlins at this point should try to lose as many games as possible to get as high a draft pick as possible next June.

 

 

Marlins at this point should try to lose as many games as possible to get as high a draft pick as possible next June.

 

Why? They'll just take the under slot value guy anyway

 

 

Marlins at this point should try to lose as many games as possible to get as high a draft pick as possible next June.

 

They'll still fuck it up and pick a 4th rounder as their 1st pick

 

 

Marlins need to win 20 per month to reach the playoffs. Cardinals need just 14 per month. Must be nice 

 

 

Stanton came back stronger after breaking his face. He will do the same after breaking his hand and still have most hrs and rbis in the majors. 

 

 

Its also scary to thing he can break his own hand with the mere force of his swing. 

 

 

Its also scary to thing he can break his own hand with the mere force of his swing. 

 

it actually happens quite a bit.

 

 

I wonder if he aggravated the hand the other day on that groundout where he stood there after his bat broke

 

 

Serious question...maybe this deserves to be its own topic...what do the Marlins needs to be contenders?

 

No outrageous trades...be reasonable. To be contenders in 2016...what needs to happen? Who needs to go? What minor leaguers need to pan out? What Free Agents need to adorn the Cuban Rainbow? 

 

There are no minor leaguers to pan out, which also means there's really no trades we can make that doesn't then create a new hole in the major league team (outside of the bullpen, where we have depth).

 

Current holes (By ranking of fWAR/rWAR in NL): C (14th/14th), 1B (13th/12th), 3B (13th/9th), LF (13th/12th), CF (12th/10th), SP (12th/13th).

 

And 3b is mostly because of Solano - Prado and DD's combined 1.3 fWAR would rank 7th. We already upgraded there with calling up Rojas.

 

Our only SP that's not a #4/#5 are Jose and Alvarez. And Alvarez is now a huge injury question. So we need to at least sign a #2, and if we really wanted to seal in next years team we'd sign a #3 as well for Alvarez insurance. But signing one pitcher is unlikely enough to happen to not even really be hopeful for signing two. The good news is, there is a ton of SP depth in the upcoming FA class.

 

So basically: Morse, Yelich, and Ozuna need to be the guys they are suppose to be. Realmuto needs to pan out. We need to sign at least 1 SP, preferably two for injury insurance. That's the realistic way to contend next year.

 

 

Well said Nny, it's at least good to think this team doesn't have go start from scratch to be good again.

 

 

Well said Nny, it's at least good to think this team doesn't have go start from scratch to be good again.

 

Further hopefulness: Realmuto has a 105 OPS+ in June entering today and Yelich is at 104. And Ozuna has to eventually hit for power, it just makes no sense how he does this.

 

The bad news is 1B though. Morse looks like a sunken cost and I'm not a believer in Bour. But our hands are kind of tied there.

 

 

I keep thinking Morse can't really be this bad but judging by his rehab games he doesn't seem any better. I for one was happy to hear about his finger injury under the hope that once the nagging injury was gone he'd pick it back up like Latos and his knee. Now I dunno what to think.

 

 

I wouldn't mind looking at Latos. 

 

But man, what if Haren can keep doing what he's doing? Have to see if he's interested. 

 

 

There are no minor leaguers to pan out, which also means there's really no trades we can make that doesn't then create a new hole in the major league team (outside of the bullpen, where we have depth).

 

Current holes (By ranking of fWAR/rWAR in NL): C (14th/14th), 1B (13th/12th), 3B (13th/9th), LF (13th/12th), CF (12th/10th), SP (12th/13th).

 

And 3b is mostly because of Solano - Prado and DD's combined 1.3 fWAR would rank 7th. We already upgraded there with calling up Rojas.

 

Our only SP that's not a #4/#5 are Jose and Alvarez. And Alvarez is now a huge injury question. So we need to at least sign a #2, and if we really wanted to seal in next years team we'd sign a #3 as well for Alvarez insurance. But signing one pitcher is unlikely enough to happen to not even really be hopeful for signing two. The good news is, there is a ton of SP depth in the upcoming FA class.

 

So basically: Morse, Yelich, and Ozuna need to be the guys they are suppose to be. Realmuto needs to pan out. We need to sign at least 1 SP, preferably two for injury insurance. That's the realistic way to contend next year.

 

And we have Loria as our owner. Next year to realistically to contend we'll have to spend some major money in Free Agency......WILL......NOT......HAPPEN. I'm just about done with the franchise until new ownership is in place. I'm convinced there is no chance under this owner they will ever succeed. If they do, it will be by accident like in 2003.

 

 

Hey @Fotog let me ask you a question because you're gonna take the brunt of my frustrations over that thinking.  I see it too much.  How the hell is the record this year due to Loria being cheap in 2015??????

 

He gave Stanton the biggest contract EVER in U.S. Sports history.  He made a large commitment to Yelich. He spent for Morse, Ichiro, Prado and Latos.   He offered the most for Shields who took less to play closer to home.

 

Which FA should he have signed his offseason?  And don't just tell me it's due to us having the lowest payroll. Answer that question please.

 

 

I wouldn't mind looking at Latos. 

 

But man, what if Haren can keep doing what he's doing? Have to see if he's interested. 

 

I hope that Latos and Haren are both traded.

 

 

I hope that Latos and Haren are both traded.

 

Haren needs to go ASAP, but I'd be into retaining Latos for something like 2/18. 

 

 

I hope that Latos and Haren are both traded.

 

Explanation?

 

 

Explanation?

 

Both are unlikely to be here in 2016 and both would probably net the highest returns of anything we can realistically trade away. Am I right Erick?

 

 

Both are unlikely to be here in 2016 and both would probably net the highest returns of anything we can realistically trade away. Am I right Erick?

 

I doubt we will get much. I wonder what Latos could command considering his fastball Appears to be back which could make him quite good again. 

 

I dont know I just feel like they should make an attempt to at least bring Latos back. Obviously at the right price. 

 

 

Explanation?

 

Haren is a great sell high candidate since he's in his mid-30s, not as good as his early season results, and likely not coming back next year anyway. Why would you keep him?

 

Latos is dependent on contract, but I'd rather move him anyway to help the farm system which sucks. He'll be a free agent after the year anyway so if you really want him, just bring him back. For what it's worth, I think he'll get more than the 2/18 previously mentioned. It wouldn't surprise me to see him get a 3 or 4 year deal. 

 

The pitching market is pretty good next year. There will be plenty of options if Loria cares to spend. 

 

Personally, my preference for the rotation next year would be Jose, hopefully healthy Alvarez, cost-controlled pitcher acquired for Ozuna, FA pitcher, and #5 from within the organization. Then spend the money on a bat to replace Ozuna or just move Yelich to CF and spend the money on a couple of platoon bats for LF. Or trade Yelich for the pitching and keep Ozuna, I don't care. I think neither one of those guys are going to be special and it shouldn't difficult to acquire a corner outfielder in free agency. 

 

 

Can Erick be the GM? Seriously those are good pretty simple realistic moves. Sometimes this front office tries too hard.