hovertical Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Guys who I believe the new group will jettison via shit trades to shed salary and will not be in uniform for the Fish on opening day: Ozuna Dietrich Gordon Yelich - I'm thinking he'll be included in a deal to dump one of the horrid contracts they're saddled with. Prado - This won't hurt as much as we thought it would at the start of the season Realmuto - see:Yelich I'm actually thinking they'll convince Ichiro to come back and he'll be leading off once Gordon is shipped off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 You really think Stanton will be here? Rumors are they want to get payroll to 55 mil. Stanton is half that. Stanton, Ozuna, Gordon likely gone. Yelich is a maybe. They'll keep JT, no one wants Prado. The next 3-4 years will be some of the worst we've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canada-marlin24 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I desperately hope the owners reject this deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP16 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Would be cool to see Ichiro leading off for the next 5 years and playing RF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP16 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 You really think Stanton will be here? Rumors are they want to get payroll to 55 mil. Stanton is half that. Stanton, Ozuna, Gordon likely gone. Yelich is a maybe. They'll keep JT, no one wants Prado. The next 3-4 years will be some of the worst we've ever seen. Stanton could stay but everyone else is gone. In 06 I think they had like a 15 mil payroll and D-Train and Miggy was like 5 mil of it each (roughly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP16 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 D-Train was around 4, Cabrera was under a million but point is good overall. Thanks. Ichiro and Stanton could be the big draws. Urena the "ace". Jeter and Ichiro played together so they might have a loyalty/friendship out of respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricOwens! Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Stanton is gone. No doubt in my mind. Pussy Jeter would make Hill trade him right now if he could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofthefish Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Hopefully Jeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP16 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Number 2, Derek Jeter. Number 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP16 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 He is a number two for sure. Now batting for the American League... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_gmac Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 He is a number two for sure. how long it took you to think of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_gmac Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 14 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTRiddlesMom Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Stanton is gone. No doubt in my mind. Pussy Jeter would make Hill trade him right now if he could. Full no trade clause. It's not Jeters decision if Stanton goes. Never forget that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiwanmarlin Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Loria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricOwens! Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Full no trade clause. It's not Jeters decision if Stanton goes. Never forget that. True but if Stanton sees everyone around him being traded and he can't see us competing realistically for another 3 years i don't see why he wouldn't waive the clause. I don't want him to leave obviously but I wouldn't blame him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish53 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I know this thread is for "whose gone" regarding meaningful players-BUT, losses accumulate with the likes of Zeigler and Nico. I never,never want to see either of them again, but as long as they are here this month, only in a lopsided game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poptart Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 half of the remaining fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_gmac Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 half of the remaining fans Plus @taiwanmarlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiwanmarlin Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Plus @taiwanmarlin you know it,it's all up to the payroll......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Everybody but Wei-Yin Chen. Best contract ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP16 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I just hope they keep Stanton. If not I hope he goes to Yankees to have Judge hitting behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exasperated Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Full no trade clause. It's not Jeters decision if Stanton goes. Never forget that. But given the fact we won't be winners for years....do you think Stanton decides to move on and forgo that huge contract ?? Will be interesting to see what motivates the man in several years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTRiddlesMom Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 But given the fact we won't be winners for years....do you think Stanton decides to move on and forgo that huge contract ?? Will be interesting to see what motivates the man in several years. First of all, even if he decides to leave he doesn't forgo the contract. He gets that money no matter where he plays unless he opts out. Switching teams doesn't negate the contract. Secondly, there's also no guarantee that the team he gets traded to is gonna be an immediate winner either so there's always the chance he'd prefer to stay here, be the face of the franchise (yes, even in losing seasons, look at 2017 as a perfect example), and hopefully ride out the storm and still be here for the next good team. I mean, I know it's unlikely, but what if Jeter does figure this out fairly quickly and the team is good 2 to 3 years from now? Stanton is definitely young enough to still be a significant part of that. It's not all the same but look at Ryan Zimmerman being productive for the Nationals at age 32 after riding out their bad years in his twenties. Stanton could be similar. Again, I'm not saying all of this is likely but it's all more reasons why Stanton might not really mind staying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovertical Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 You really think Stanton will be here? Rumors are they want to get payroll to 55 mil. Stanton is half that. Stanton, Ozuna, Gordon likely gone. Yelich is a maybe. They'll keep JT, no one wants Prado. The next 3-4 years will be some of the worst we've ever seen. It wouldn't be because they want to keep him, they'd still have to find a trade partner who would take on that monster of a contract. Stanton, finally having a season that semi-justifies that contract should help in that regard but it's still a ton of owed $$$. They'd get pennies on the dollar in return value too because they sure as shit don't sound like the type to send money in order to get better prospects. Red Sox maybe would pull that trigger? Dunno. Stanton's only issue is the contract because there just aren't that many teams that can take it on (including the one he plays for). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Stanton's only issue is the contract There's also a bigger issue than the contract... he has a full no trade clause. It's amazing how many people don't realize what that means. He only leaves if he wants to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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