July 17, 200620 yr Jacobs: 278 AB, .288/.357/.522/.879, 13 HR, 50 RBI, 34 R, 26 2B (59 K/30 BB) Delgado: 318 AB .252/.342/.506/.849, 22 HR, 57 RBI, 52 R, 15 2B (77 K/37 BB) Jacobs April: .192 BA, 3 HR, 13 RBI May: .264, 3 HR, 16 RBI June: .361, 4 HR, 13 RBI July: .364, 3 HR, 8 RBI Delgado: April: .298, 9 HR, 20 RBI May: .208, 6 HR, 14 RBI June: .291, 7 HR, 21 RBI July: .156, 0 HR, 2 RBI Jacobs 2006 Salary: $327,000 Delgado 2006 Salary: $13,500,000
July 17, 200620 yr Well the sample size certainly is big enough. Although Jacobs does get a tremendous amount of protection with Cabs behind him! :cool
July 17, 200620 yr Author Well the sample size certainly is big enough. Although Jacobs does get a tremendous amount of protection with Cabs behind him! :cool ..having David Wright behind you isn't too bad either
July 17, 200620 yr Well the sample size certainly is big enough. Although Jacobs does get a tremendous amount of protection with Cabs behind him! :cool ..having David Wright behind you isn't too bad either :cool
July 17, 200620 yr The RBI differential isn't that big, Delgado had more dingers but Jacobs has higher average and more doubles (that eventually some of those become long balls)
July 17, 200620 yr It unbelievable isn't it? And this with Jacobs being hobbled by what seems to be a chronically bad ankle. One starts to get the idea why so many pundits/media types in NYC thought Mike Jacobs would be their 2006 rookie of the year candidate. What impresses me most is that a) Jacobs is a rookie still making rookie mistakes, b) he still can't handle lefties well and will certainly improve over the next couple of years, and c) all the upside is on his side while Delgado's career is at best at it's mid-point and perhaps entering its twilight stage. For all the crap the Marlins took for moving Carlos, this is starting to appear like a lop-sided trade in our favor. Who would of thought? Yes, Carlos is banged up too and underperforming because of it but it certainly is an impressive presentation. And yes Delgado is still Delgado, one of the most feared hitters in the game, but I'm more than satisfied with what our rookie first baseman has accomplished this season, especially when you consider his abysmal start.
July 17, 200620 yr I'd have to say, Beinfest and co will look like absolute geniuses if Delgado never returns to his 2005 form.
July 17, 200620 yr The RBI differential isn't that big, Delgado had more dingers but Jacobs has higher average and more doubles (that eventually some of those become long balls) The biggest stat when comparing sluggers is OPS
July 17, 200620 yr Crazy that Jacobs'd have a better OPS, but...just hear me out, Delgado still would provide protection for Cabrera, Jacobs doesn't do that...at least not yet.
July 17, 200620 yr Crazy that Jacobs'd have a better OPS, but...just hear me out, Delgado still would provide protection for Cabrera, Jacobs doesn't do that...at least not yet. Absolutely, 100% agree :thumbup In fact, it's Cabrera's protection of Jacobs that has fueled Jacobs' success at the plate.
July 17, 200620 yr looks like a steal for us. production wise they are almost on the same level, and i just love their salary figures.
July 17, 200620 yr That trade is looking quite good. I wonder how close they will be at seasons end The projections from ESPN.com have Jacobs at 25 home runs and 96 RBI Delgado at 41 home runs and 106 RBI
July 17, 200620 yr To add to my thought above, it becomes more and more obvious everyday that missing most from the Marlins lineup is someone who could actually provide Cabrera some protection. As much as I'd like to go get "a" Chris Denorfia type to grow with rest of the rookies, it's been obvious (at least to me) that's what's needed most is someone who strikes fear in the hearts of opposing pitchers and whose bat is legendary enough to force teams to pitch to Miggy.
July 17, 200620 yr To add to my thought above, it becomes more and more obvious everyday that missing most from the Marlins lineup is someone who could actually provide Cabrera some protection. As much as I'd like to go get "a" Chris Denorfia type to grow with rest of the rookies, it's been obvious (at least to me) that's what's needed most is someone who strikes fear in the hearts of opposing pitchers and whose bat is legendary enough to force teams to pitch to Miggy. Well that just takes time. Eventually a Jacobs or Hermida could give that to him.
July 17, 200620 yr he's having a great year..i don't miss delgado at all. carlos' average has really sucked this year , i think he's hitting like .253.
July 17, 200620 yr I was thinking the same thing this morning when I saw Jakey's .288 average. I just instinctively checked Delgado and saw .252. No one can knock Carlos, just an awesome threat, but you have to be impressed with Jacobs-especially with the slow start and the looping flaw in his swing. They caught it, he worked on it and just straightened it out-the results are tremendous. Girardi adds to the building of Jake's confidence by letting him play against lefties and not lifting him in key late game situations. Basically, he has been a real gem. And we have lost nothing defensively, hint of sarcasm, as both of them will not see gold. But again, Jake is young and can get better, Delgado is what he is out in the field.
July 17, 200620 yr It was a good trade for both sides, Beltran would not be having the year he is without Delgado in the lineup, and Jakey is flat out raking at the moment. They got what they wanted, we got what we wanted, everybody is happy. Now in a year or so it may not be the case.....
July 17, 200620 yr A key point to remember is that Jacobs is still learning and *gasp* could even get better with time and experience
July 17, 200620 yr I can't believe some of you call him "Jakey" just call him Jake. "Jakey" is so woossy sounding. He has been outstanding and I bet he has a better second half then his first half. Also our team does poorly against Leftys as a whole and I noticed ( I think) we have no Lefty BP pitchers. That seems strange to me you would think you would want to see some BP with a lefty out there just to get a feel. I bet if they got one we would do better against them.
July 18, 200620 yr Early on this season when Jake was struggling I was starting to worry a little. He's looked absolutely terrific since then. Taking pitches the other way more than I ever thought he would. Yet another trade piece looking good.
July 18, 200620 yr Well Im going to say the whole Marlins team been great this year the records dont show how good we played :hat
July 18, 200620 yr my only gripe with jacobs is his defense , very limited range and doesnt have good hands , hopefully more work with hill will help some . either way more bang for the buck wih jacobs than delgado
July 18, 200620 yr my only gripe with jacobs is his defense , very limited range and doesnt have good hands , hopefully more work with hill will help some . either way more bang for the buck wih jacobs than delgado Delgado was pretty horrible defensively. Jacobs hasn't been great but Delgado was as bad as I would ever want to get.
July 18, 200620 yr To add to my thought above, it becomes more and more obvious everyday that missing most from the Marlins lineup is someone who could actually provide Cabrera some protection. As much as I'd like to go get "a" Chris Denorfia type to grow with rest of the rookies, it's been obvious (at least to me) that's what's needed most is someone who strikes fear in the hearts of opposing pitchers and whose bat is legendary enough to force teams to pitch to Miggy. Call me crazy, but you undo the Delgado trade and stick him on this team, and, well, I think the Mets, Phillies, Marlins and Braves are all on an equal playing field.
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