Ramp Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 what players on that list will shock the public? I'm going to go with David Eckstein (I'm being semi-serious here) and hopefully not this guy, but John Smoltz is my other guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I'm pretty sure that at least Clemens, but possibly also Pettitte will be on the list. I also have a suspicion that Eric Gagne will show up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefWillingham Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 No player would shock me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Night Phantom Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 AROD or Griffey would upset me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puma Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I've heard it's going to be A LOT of Mets and former Mets because their former clubhouse assistant was handing the stuff out or something like that... Rey Ordonez, Todd Zeille, Timo Perez...guys like that really wouldn't surprise me at all Perhaps Piazza? We'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 The smart money is on Clemens. Darkhorse? Damon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malman Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 How about Lowell and Kevin Brown? Gagne too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strandedx02 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I'm skeptical of this report, even moreso after reading the long ESPN article about it today: "The problem was, what did they want us to say?" said a team trainer who was interviewed by Mitchell's investigators in 2006. "They wanted us to speculate. And I wouldn't do that. They wanted me to say who I thought was using steroids. And when I said, 'I don't know,' they would say, 'Well, you work most closely with these guys. You work on their bodies every day. You weren't the least bit suspicious when you saw their bodies change?' "This was the kind of stuff I was most afraid of, because they didn't ask me about specific people with specific information that they had. They asked me to guess. I said my guess was no guess at all, because what would happen to me if I said a guy was using steroids who wasn't? What if I guessed wrong? Then my name is out there, I get fired, and I'm easily replaceable." full article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Rob Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 AROD or Griffey would upset me Griffey would really upset me, but I started wondering when he kept getting injured. My sleeper pick- Kenny Lofton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costabear Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I really hope nobody from the 2003 team is on this list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 AROD or Griffey would upset me Griffey would really upset me, but I started wondering when he kept getting injured. My sleeper pick- Kenny Lofton. Has more to do with the fact that he has a slender frame and that he never trained or conditioned like he should have for years. I concur though, that would suck. He and Roger Clemens are the players who really got me in to baseball. I'll go ahead and throw out Nomar Garciaparra. At one time one of my favorite players and I named my dog after him. Would not surprise me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Brian Roberts & Pudge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I'm going with Schilling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshFish Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I'm skeptical of this report, even moreso after reading the long ESPN article about it today: "The problem was, what did they want us to say?" said a team trainer who was interviewed by Mitchell's investigators in 2006. "They wanted us to speculate. And I wouldn't do that. They wanted me to say who I thought was using steroids. And when I said, 'I don't know,' they would say, 'Well, you work most closely with these guys. You work on their bodies every day. You weren't the least bit suspicious when you saw their bodies change?' "This was the kind of stuff I was most afraid of, because they didn't ask me about specific people with specific information that they had. They asked me to guess. I said my guess was no guess at all, because what would happen to me if I said a guy was using steroids who wasn't? What if I guessed wrong? Then my name is out there, I get fired, and I'm easily replaceable." full article that's how investigations are conducted. nothing wrong with that. I doubt the report is based on speculation. Sh*t will hit the fan with lawyers filing law suits and the MLBPA creating havoc. with that said, I'm skeptical for different reasons. We shall see how serious this thing is tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I'm going with Schilling. I'm going with lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDon Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I'm going with Schilling. I'm going with lol. :lol He's the last guy on the planet who I would put on that list. Carlos Delgado and Manny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshFish Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Maybe I'm missing something here, but why so much expectation on big names being named? wouldn't this be more along of the line of more stat based? i.e. "during the decade of the 80s, 45% of professional players used anabolic steroids"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Godfather Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I'm going with Schilling. That would be great, but no chance of it happening. I am rooting for Roger Clemens to be on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Why would you be 'rooting' for guys who hold a high place in the history of baseball to be named in this report? I understand wanting cheaters to be exposed but why would you hope guys that have been dominant over their careers to be on this list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I'm going with Schilling. I'm going with lol. :lol He's the last guy on the planet who I would put on that list. That's why I'm picking him as my dark horse! If I'm wrong, it's to be expected. If I'm right, I'm awesome. But for the record, I rather him not be on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Godfather Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Why would you be 'rooting' for guys who hold a high place in the history of baseball to be named in this report? I understand wanting cheaters to be exposed but why would you hope guys that have been dominant over their careers to be on this list? Because 1. It will take away the argument from some people (that I vehemently disagree with) that Bonds record is tainted. Seeing a fan favorite like Roger Clemens who was dominate for years was on steroids also as a pitcher, would mean the media would have to also erase all his accomplishments/put an asterisk next to his name/deny his entry to the hall of fame. If not, it is clearly a double standard. I think we will start to see the sensible argument used more frequently that hey...steroids were just a part of the game in this era, they were not illegal in baseball terms, deal with it, Barry Bonds was the best of all time. 2. I don't like Roger Clemens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Interesting. Different strokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Chipper & Andruw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louiecastillo1 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Jim Thome, Vernon Wells, David Ortiz, A-Rod, Griffey, Mike Piazza, Kevin Brown, Mike Lowell (I hope not), Pujols, Sheffield, Pudge, and Clemens. My somewhat sleeper pick is: Jimmy Rollins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanleyDavidson Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Alejandro De Aza because I just dont like him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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