Only one word can truly describe this move if it actually happens.

 

Legit.

 

 

 

Nope. The one word would be "illegal". For obvious dumb-ass reasons they have to at least interview minority candidates or all hell will be released.

 

Gonna take at least a week, maybe two.

 

Is Edwin Rodriguez not considered a minority candidate?

since when is bobby v a good manager?

 

 

Since this organization decided to make Fredi Gonzalez the sacrificial lamb to atone for their own failings.

 

Funny enough, Samson, Beinfest, & Hill all admitted that they were as responsible for the poor performance this year, yet none of them lost their jobs today.

 

 

I agree. Sacrificial lamb, scapegoat....whatever the term.

 

When I first heard the news I just heard about Presley and Tosca. I fairly shouted out FINALLY about Presley. But didn't see the reason for Tosca. Then a little later I heard about Fredi and the Tosca firing made sense. Not saying I agree with it, just that firing Fredi and Tosca made more sense.

Only one word can truly describe this move if it actually happens.

 

Legit.

 

 

 

Nope. The one word would be "illegal". For obvious dumb-ass reasons they have to at least interview minority candidates or all hell will be released.

 

Gonna take at least a week, maybe two.

 

Is Edwin Rodriguez not considered a minority candidate?

 

Yes. But if he is the only one "under consideration" the PC Correct/Equal Opportunity groups will be all over it. They will be anyways, but more so if it happens that way.

I kinda wish they would wait til at least the 2nd game of the PR series.

 

 

 

Evidently you haven't noticed how this FO does things.

 

I would be very surprised if he wasn't the manager for all 3 of those games. Anything after that.........

Valentine's basically a drill sergeant isn't he? I was hoping for Showalter a little too, but Bobby V will certainly bring the headlines.

 

Hope you liked the player's coaches while you could guys...

BroncoBob is such a delight.

If we see any improvement from this team after Valentine takes over it will be coincidental. Managers make very little difference in wins and losses.

Think I read last night that Valentine's "interview" was scheduled for this weekend.

At least things will be entertaining. Bobby V is a likable, funny, outgoing guy who is incredibly frustrating to watch manage. Hope you enjoy seeing the line-up change every single night (he had a stretch of 52 different line-ups in 60 games at one point) and having him play favorites with players.

In sports, no matter the sport of the team, the manager's head is the one most likely to role first when a team underperforms, even if that underperforming resutls in a good playoff run (Cleveland Cavaliers, anyone?)

 

GMs and Presidents take longer to be ousted because people view their work as more long term. If say next year the bullpen philosophy of getting reclaimation projects and hoping for the young guys to step up doesn't work again, then we will probably hear whispers of more F.O. headrolling. But in general GMs are given much longer leashes than managers/coaches, across the board in all sports.

Still dont see anything happening to at least the PR series if not carrying into the road trip before the All-Star Break. Probably another Week and a half away.

I can't get back to the story without signing up at the Stamford Ct. Times website and I don't feel like bothering but if someone does there's an article there that says Bobby Valentine has been telling patrons of his local restaurant that he'll be "away for the summer" (paraphrasing).

 

It comes from this tweet:

 

# Times_normal Stamford_Times Bobby Valentine expected to manage #Marlins : http://bit.ly/a8k5KY about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck

Valentine is as qualified as a manager can come when you are looking for a replacement. Has been to a world series and has a proven track record of winning. He is known as a players coach, but also very intense. I believe someone said you would go to war for Bobby Valentine when he is your manager.

 

Marlins right-hander Scott Strickland was a member of the 2002 Mets. He loved playing for Valentine.

 

“The guy loves too win and he wants to win bad,� Strickland said. “If you’re going to go to war, that’s the guy you want on your side…He’s just a fighter. The thng I remember about him was he just hated losing with a passion. I enjoyed my time with him…He’s not scared to chew your ass out if you need it. he’s definitely not a guy that’s going to sit back and let the boys play. Maybe he’s changed since I’ve had him, but he was more of a take charge kind of guy. He’s not afraid to shake things up a little bit.�

 

http://blogs.sun-sen...http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_baseball_marlins/2010/06/florida-marlins-is-bobby-valentine-the-right-guy-for-the-job.html

According to a source with knowledge of the Marlins' thinking, Valentine is the overwhelming favorite to land the job. "I'd say it's about 95 percent that it will be Valentine," the source said. "(Marlins owner Jeffrey) Loria has already told him he's his guy."

http://www.nydailyne...http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/2010/06/23/2010-06-23_bobby_valentine_the_overwhelming_favorite_to_replace_fredi_gonzalez_as_marlins_m.html?r=sports&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:+nydnrss/sports+(Sports)&utm_content=Twitter

Do this already! Enough with the minority garbage. Well, I understand it, but to us, at least from what we know about Bobby basically having a job, we know the minority garbage is BS just to appease the rules. So to us, its a big waste of time.

 

On a related personal note... I got my job the same way. I was hired on the spot without a formal interview, but was the first and the boss told me she has to interview others before sending me to my formal interview. So I watched as a swarm of monkeys walked in and out of her office... then, when I went downtown to my formal interview, the girl at the front who signed me in, pulled up my file from the computer and said "That's funny, we haven't interviewed you yet but the computer is saying you've already been hired, hmm," Of course I shrugged my shoulders and said "Hmm, how strange." ...THIS is Bobby's story... bring him on already!

Tommy Hutton for manager.

Do this already! Enough with the minority garbage. Well, I understand it, but to us, at least from what we know about Bobby basically having a job, we know the minority garbage is BS just to appease the rules. So to us, its a big waste of time.

 

On a related personal note... I got my job the same way. I was hired on the spot without a formal interview, but was the first and the boss told me she has to interview others before sending me to my formal interview. So I watched as a swarm of monkeys walked in and out of her office... then, when I went downtown to my formal interview, the girl at the front who signed me in, pulled up my file from the computer and said "That's funny, we haven't interviewed you yet but the computer is saying you've already been hired, hmm," Of course I shrugged my shoulders and said "Hmm, how strange." ...THIS is Bobby's story... bring him on already!

 

 

Uh, I hope you ment something else by the term "monkeys" other than what I think you meant.

 

I, too, think it's disingenuous to go through this process when they already have someone in mind; it's insulting to the minority interviewee when they're not getting a fair shake, they're only being interviewed to satisfy a rule.

 

That being said, this rule wouldn't be necessary if minority candidates were actually considered for openings in the first place.

Do this already! Enough with the minority garbage. Well, I understand it, but to us, at least from what we know about Bobby basically having a job, we know the minority garbage is BS just to appease the rules. So to us, its a big waste of time.

 

On a related personal note... I got my job the same way. I was hired on the spot without a formal interview, but was the first and the boss told me she has to interview others before sending me to my formal interview. So I watched as a swarm of monkeys walked in and out of her office... then, when I went downtown to my formal interview, the girl at the front who signed me in, pulled up my file from the computer and said "That's funny, we haven't interviewed you yet but the computer is saying you've already been hired, hmm," Of course I shrugged my shoulders and said "Hmm, how strange." ...THIS is Bobby's story... bring him on already!

 

 

Uh, I hope you ment something else by the term "monkeys" other than what I think you meant.

 

I, too, think it's disingenuous to go through this process when they already have someone in mind; it's insulting to the minority interviewee when they're not getting a fair shake, they're only being interviewed to satisfy a rule.

 

That being said, this rule wouldn't be necessary if minority candidates were actually considered for openings in the first place.

 

I used to think it's a completely useless process. However, there's also the chance that a minority candidate gets a shot at an interview that he wouldn't otherwise have, proceeds to carry himself well, and is put in a good word for the future. He may not be the person for the team he's interviewing for, but word of mouth is a powerful tool as well.

BroncoBob is such a delight.

 

:lol

What's Valentine's managerial style?

 

I think he's a bunt them over, move them over, station to station, stolen base kind of guy but I'm not sure. Anyone know for sure?

 

I don't think he'll be a good fit with Beinfest as I don't see Valentine being the puppet Beinfest wants. They'll clash just like Girardi clashed with Beinfest. If this happens it will not end well.

 

Not sure if it was mentioned by anyone but last week Dave Collins ran the closed door meeting after being swept by the Rangers. That should have being a sign that Fredi's days were numbered.

BroncoBob is such a delight.

 

:lol

He's such a delight he managed to destroy the AOL Marlins board a few years ago.

Do this already! Enough with the minority garbage. Well, I understand it, but to us, at least from what we know about Bobby basically having a job, we know the minority garbage is BS just to appease the rules. So to us, its a big waste of time.

 

On a related personal note... I got my job the same way. I was hired on the spot without a formal interview, but was the first and the boss told me she has to interview others before sending me to my formal interview. So I watched as a swarm of monkeys walked in and out of her office... then, when I went downtown to my formal interview, the girl at the front who signed me in, pulled up my file from the computer and said "That's funny, we haven't interviewed you yet but the computer is saying you've already been hired, hmm," Of course I shrugged my shoulders and said "Hmm, how strange." ...THIS is Bobby's story... bring him on already!

 

 

Uh, I hope you ment something else by the term "monkeys" other than what I think you meant.

 

I, too, think it's disingenuous to go through this process when they already have someone in mind; it's insulting to the minority interviewee when they're not getting a fair shake, they're only being interviewed to satisfy a rule.

 

That being said, this rule wouldn't be necessary if minority candidates were actually considered for openings in the first place.

 

LMAO! Oh crap, I didnt mean anything negative by it! I use that term for everything, whether positive or negative! I use it to describe all the other candidates for my job, and Ive used it to describe my own family... I just mean it as a group of people... lol, didnt realize the connotations it probably gave off! Sorry!

What's Valentine's managerial style?

 

I think he's a bunt them over, move them over, station to station, stolen base kind of guy but I'm not sure. Anyone know for sure?

 

I don't think he'll be a good fit with Beinfest as I don't see Valentine being the puppet Beinfest wants. They'll clash just like Girardi clashed with Beinfest. If this happens it will not end well.

 

Not sure if it was mentioned by anyone but last week Dave Collins ran the closed door meeting after being swept by the Rangers. That should have being a sign that Fredi's days were numbered.

 

This is what I'd like to know.

 

Everyone here seems to want this guy so much, but do they really know enough about him?

 

Beinfest's failures going into 2010 (bad bullpen, Maybin and Miller not contributing, bad bench players) far outweigh the negative consequences of Gonzalez's in-game management.

 

I think Beinfest is an above average GM and should keep his job, but it amazes me that he escapes criticism from the camp that has been calling for Fredi's head for almost two years now.

Do this already! Enough with the minority garbage. Well, I understand it, but to us, at least from what we know about Bobby basically having a job, we know the minority garbage is BS just to appease the rules. So to us, its a big waste of time.

 

On a related personal note... I got my job the same way. I was hired on the spot without a formal interview, but was the first and the boss told me she has to interview others before sending me to my formal interview. So I watched as a swarm of monkeys walked in and out of her office... then, when I went downtown to my formal interview, the girl at the front who signed me in, pulled up my file from the computer and said "That's funny, we haven't interviewed you yet but the computer is saying you've already been hired, hmm," Of course I shrugged my shoulders and said "Hmm, how strange." ...THIS is Bobby's story... bring him on already!

 

 

Uh, I hope you ment something else by the term "monkeys" other than what I think you meant.

 

I, too, think it's disingenuous to go through this process when they already have someone in mind; it's insulting to the minority interviewee when they're not getting a fair shake, they're only being interviewed to satisfy a rule.

 

That being said, this rule wouldn't be necessary if minority candidates were actually considered for openings in the first place.

 

I used to think it's a completely useless process. However, there's also the chance that a minority candidate gets a shot at an interview that he wouldn't otherwise have, proceeds to carry himself well, and is put in a good word for the future. He may not be the person for the team he's interviewing for, but word of mouth is a powerful tool as well.

 

Yeah, I agree that its a bit insulting... almost a reverse discrimination thing. Like you werent gonna hire me but are just interviewing me to satisfy a quota. But then I agree that if the candidate is qualified, his name will pop up again somewhere down the line. So I guess theres a positive light to it.

Do this already! Enough with the minority garbage. Well, I understand it, but to us, at least from what we know about Bobby basically having a job, we know the minority garbage is BS just to appease the rules. So to us, its a big waste of time.

 

On a related personal note... I got my job the same way. I was hired on the spot without a formal interview, but was the first and the boss told me she has to interview others before sending me to my formal interview. So I watched as a swarm of monkeys walked in and out of her office... then, when I went downtown to my formal interview, the girl at the front who signed me in, pulled up my file from the computer and said "That's funny, we haven't interviewed you yet but the computer is saying you've already been hired, hmm," Of course I shrugged my shoulders and said "Hmm, how strange." ...THIS is Bobby's story... bring him on already!

 

 

Uh, I hope you ment something else by the term "monkeys" other than what I think you meant.

 

I, too, think it's disingenuous to go through this process when they already have someone in mind; it's insulting to the minority interviewee when they're not getting a fair shake, they're only being interviewed to satisfy a rule.

 

That being said, this rule wouldn't be necessary if minority candidates were actually considered for openings in the first place.

 

LMAO! Oh crap, I didnt mean anything negative by it! I use that term for everything, whether positive or negative! I use it to describe all the other candidates for my job, and Ive used it to describe my own family... I just mean it as a group of people... lol, didnt realize the connotations it probably gave off! Sorry!

 

Sure, Mr. Cosell, sure.