November 15, 201114 yr Let Reyes move to 2B like he did for Kaz Matsui, or more sensibly, 3B. You guys didn't have a problem when captain Derek Jeter didn't move for A-Rod. I guess Jeter gets special privilages despite his atrocious defense, since he has GOAT intangibles to overlook talent according to some chickenheads. Speaking of chickenheads, can any of you artsy comp. savs make Freddi look like a chicken plz.? thx Countdown to "Hanley, is that you?" reply. .
November 15, 201114 yr I don't really think it matters whether or not Hanley is happy. The Marlins front office might think it matters. Loria loves Hanley. He wants Hanley to spend the rest of his career in Miami. It would not surprise me if both the Marlins and Reyes have a deal in place but it is being held up because Hanley is uncomfortable.
November 15, 201114 yr It’s not just that the Miami Marlins want Jose Reyes. Reyes also wants the Marlins. One source who has spoken with Reyes says the free-agent shortstop is intrigued not only by playing in Miami but also by playing for manager Ozzie Guillen, a former major league shortstop. Another advantage for the Marlins is that Reyes, after spending his entire career with the Mets, no longer would play his home games in cold or inclement weather. The warm climate of Miami might help him avoid leg injuries, and the team’s new ballpark will feature a retractable roof. The Marlins made Reyes an offer last week, major league sources say, and also offered deals to at least three other free agents — first baseman Albert Pujols, left-hander Mark Buehrle and closer Ryan Madson. Many in the industry are skeptical of the Marlins’ sincerity, believing that the club will make offers that are competitive, but not good enough to accept — and that the players will sign with teams that have better chances to win. The Marlins’ offer to Reyes was six years, $90 million, according to one source; the team is declining comment. Obviously, the offer was not tempting enough for Reyes to accept immediately. But it was only a first offer. The Marlins, if they sign Reyes, plan to move shortstop Hanley Ramirez to third base. They have not discussed the possibility of moving Ramirez to center field, still viewing him as an infielder, sources say. The question is whether Ramirez is even open to moving from shortstop. Clark Spencer of The Miami Herald reported on Twitter late Monday night that Ramirez is “not at all pleased at the prospect of changing positions if the Marlins sign Reyes; the two aren’t the friends that many portray.� Could the Marlins trade Ramirez? It would not be easy; Ramirez, 27, is coming off shoulder surgery and the worst season of his career. However, he has three years and $46.5 million remaining on his contract, and a team in need of a shortstop or third baseman likely would consider him an intriguing option. Reyes thinking long, hard about Marlins http://msn.foxsports...oin-team-111411
November 15, 201114 yr To much miss information, first Hanley says he will move, then he doesn't want to, then he said he will again, now he's not pleased. Then supposedly their friends, then maybe not good friends, but supposedly great friends. Shut up already.
November 15, 201114 yr ''Many in the industry are skeptical of the Marlins’ sincerity, believing that the club will make offers that are competitive, but not good enough to accept — and that the players will sign with teams that have better chances to win.'' Better chance to win? No such thing has having a crystal ball, the Marlins are doing everything they can do become a competitive ball club, a New 350 Million dollar stadium, a New Name, We'll have all are players back healthy, and to top if off a couple of star players to give not only the club More Motivation but even more talent on top of what they have.We have as good as a chance as anyone else. So fed up of the Bashing by the media.....
November 15, 201114 yr ''Many in the industry are skeptical of the Marlins’ sincerity, believing that the club will make offers that are competitive, but not good enough to accept — and that the players will sign with teams that have better chances to win.'' Better chance to win? No such thing has having a crystal ball, the Marlins are doing everything they can do become a competitive ball club, a New 350 Million dollar stadium, a New Name, We'll have all are players back healthy, and to top if off a couple of star players to give not only the club More Motivation but even more talent on top of what they have.We have as good as a chance as anyone else. So fed up of the Bashing by the media..... Firstly, 550 million, but yes, I definitely agree, no such thing as anyone having a crystal ball.
November 15, 201114 yr Well crap. From my understanding SS is seen as the glamorous position in the DR. It's where every kid wants to play. So you can kinda see why Hanley isn't thrilled with this. To clarify the understanding of what the Dominican people think, most people in the DR don't think much of Pujols because he "only" plays first base now. No, I can't see or agree if Hanley has a problem with his esteem in the DR or anywhere else.
November 15, 201114 yr Well crap. From my understanding SS is seen as the glamorous position in the DR. It's where every kid wants to play. So you can kinda see why Hanley isn't thrilled with this. To clarify the understanding of what the Dominican people think, most people in the DR don't think much of Pujols because he "only" plays first base now. No, I can't see or agree if Hanley has a problem with his esteem in the DR or anywhere else. No they don't because Pujols is one of the best hitters ever. I bet he played SS over in the DR. The article below is old but still proves the point. 'Short' has tall standing in San Pedro de Macoris KIDS' CORNER July 16, 1995|By Jamison Hensley | Jamison Hensley,Contributing Writer Most kids growing up in San Pedro de Macoris, Dominican Republic, have the same dream: to play shortstop for a major-league team. Orioles second baseman Manny Alexander was one of them. "I watched Tony Fernandez play and make it to the major leagues," said Alexander, 24. "I always wanted to play shortstop since then. I thought maybe one day I can be like him." Alexander's story is not unique. Kids in San Pedro de Macoris (population 66,000) have had their choices of hometown shortstops to admire. Jose Offerman, Mariano Duncan, Manuel Lee and Alfredo Griffin all started playing baseball on the fields of San Pedro de Macoris. That's why baseball is not just the most popular sport in the Dominican Republic, but just about the only sport. "We all play baseball and some basketball, but baseball is the sport," Alexander said. "There's no soccer or football like they play here. The reason is that so many play professional baseball from here. Everyone sees the good car and nice house, and kids think that maybe one day they can be like him, too." Alexander, who started playing baseball at the age of 7, heard kids talking about those dreams when he played Little League. He also remembers the long line to play shortstop in a game. "You have to let everyone play an inning at shortstop because everyone can and wants to play shortstop," Alexander said. "Everyone has such good hands. I think everyone wants to be like Manny Lee and Tony Fernandez. No one wants to pitch and catch. It's all about playing shortstop." And the Alexander family knows about playing shortstop. Manny has five older and five younger brothers. Two of the younger brothers, Kenny and Enrique, are promising shortstop prospects the Dominican Republic. Like kids in the United States, Alexander and his brothers followed the major-league game through TV broadcasts, radio and newspapers. When Alexander returns home, kids approach him with questions, one of them being particularly popular. "They always ask why I am moving to second base," Alexander said. "They say, you have such good hands and you should be playing short. The little kids don't understand that it's the chance to play is why I'm playing second." Alexander returns home often and plays for Estrellas during the winter. And he plays shortstop.
November 15, 201114 yr Then let's just have two outfielders and let Hanley and Reyes play shortstop at the same time.
November 15, 201114 yr Sorry if this was already mentioned, but I just read this as it was posted on marlins.com recently. According to Ken Rosenthal (and Joe Frisaro), the Marlins offered Jose Reyes a six-year, $90 million contract during his visit. He is 28 years old.
November 15, 201114 yr This is crazy! I'm all about spending money but not that long of a contract?! That is nuts. I'm getting nervous about Hanley moving to third anyway.
November 15, 201114 yr This is crazy! I'm all about spending money but not that long of a contract?! That is nuts. I'm getting nervous about Hanley moving to third anyway. He'll be 34 at the back-end of a contract that averages 15M/year. It's pretty reasonable.
November 15, 201114 yr The 15 million doesn't bother me but I wouldn't go farther than 4 years. What do I care though, they could probably get out of it after 4 years anyway, etc.
November 15, 201114 yr Well crap. From my understanding SS is seen as the glamorous position in the DR. It's where every kid wants to play. So you can kinda see why Hanley isn't thrilled with this. To clarify the understanding of what the Dominican people think, most people in the DR don't think much of Pujols because he "only" plays first base now. No, I can't see or agree if Hanley has a problem with his esteem in the DR or anywhere else. No they don't because Pujols is one of the best hitters ever. I bet he played SS over in the DR. The article below is old but still proves the point. 'Short' has tall standing in San Pedro de Macoris KIDS' CORNER July 16, 1995|By Jamison Hensley | Jamison Hensley,Contributing Writer Most kids growing up in San Pedro de Macoris, Dominican Republic, have the same dream: to play shortstop for a major-league team. Orioles second baseman Manny Alexander was one of them. "I watched Tony Fernandez play and make it to the major leagues," said Alexander, 24. "I always wanted to play shortstop since then. I thought maybe one day I can be like him." Alexander's story is not unique. Kids in San Pedro de Macoris (population 66,000) have had their choices of hometown shortstops to admire. Jose Offerman, Mariano Duncan, Manuel Lee and Alfredo Griffin all started playing baseball on the fields of San Pedro de Macoris. That's why baseball is not just the most popular sport in the Dominican Republic, but just about the only sport. "We all play baseball and some basketball, but baseball is the sport," Alexander said. "There's no soccer or football like they play here. The reason is that so many play professional baseball from here. Everyone sees the good car and nice house, and kids think that maybe one day they can be like him, too." Alexander, who started playing baseball at the age of 7, heard kids talking about those dreams when he played Little League. He also remembers the long line to play shortstop in a game. "You have to let everyone play an inning at shortstop because everyone can and wants to play shortstop," Alexander said. "Everyone has such good hands. I think everyone wants to be like Manny Lee and Tony Fernandez. No one wants to pitch and catch. It's all about playing shortstop." And the Alexander family knows about playing shortstop. Manny has five older and five younger brothers. Two of the younger brothers, Kenny and Enrique, are promising shortstop prospects the Dominican Republic. Like kids in the United States, Alexander and his brothers followed the major-league game through TV broadcasts, radio and newspapers. When Alexander returns home, kids approach him with questions, one of them being particularly popular. "They always ask why I am moving to second base," Alexander said. "They say, you have such good hands and you should be playing short. The little kids don't understand that it's the chance to play is why I'm playing second." Alexander returns home often and plays for Estrellas during the winter. And he plays shortstop. Thanks for the reference-I am not arguing with you-just Hanley's attitude if true. The article is basically about "kids" wanting to be shortstops. Hanley is a well paid adult-not a kid-and if it for the good of the team and does not affect his value, then the fact is he is not a kid anymore.
November 15, 201114 yr I hope we get reyes but what happends if the marlins are just playin with us Then we'll be the same mediocre garbage that we usually are.
November 16, 201114 yr If there is one weakness I have in baseball, Its about Trades and Draft Picks and all that. So let me ask you as a layman in this area, how long are these free agent deals supposed to take?
November 16, 201114 yr If the Marlins offered Reyes a 6 year/$90mil offer it's likely got 1. Club options 2. Player options and 3. No NM or NT clauses They're not going to tie all that money up for 6 years.
November 16, 201114 yr If the Marlins offered Reyes a 6 year/$90mil offer it's likely got 1. Club options 2. Player options and 3. No NM or NT clauses They're not going to tie all that money up for 6 years. Hes definitely a Marlins. No one else would offer him 6 years. Marlins are overpaying to get this guy, not a bad move IMO.
November 16, 201114 yr I believe he would end up signing for a bit more, closer to 100 if not over 100. I think we will be a marlin after all is said and done
November 16, 201114 yr I believe he would end up signing for a bit more, closer to 100 if not over 100. I think we will be a marlin after all is said and done We? Sounds Good to me, ill take 90 Million
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