Where they Getting the Money to spend on these Free agents? And whats the plan to get the money back?

 

We just got a new ball park, where we can get every cent of ticket sales, concession, etc. Is this a serious question?

I understand they will get the money back through tickets and connsessions, but will that be enough? Its abit of a gamble...I mean sometimes in Joe robbie thet would only get 12,000 people per game, is it guaranteed they will fill every seat...for every game...? I hope they do, the Marlins must have done some pretty in depth research..

We weren't getting revenue from the sales there. So yes, 12,000 at the new park will be > than 12,000 at the old place.

Where they Getting the Money to spend on these Free agents? And whats the plan to get the money back?

 

We just got a new ball park, where we can get every cent of ticket sales, concession, etc. Is this a serious question?

I understand they will get the money back through tickets and connsessions, but will that be enough? Its abit of a gamble...I mean sometimes in Joe robbie thet would only get 12,000 people per game, is it guaranteed they will fill every seat...for every game...? I hope they do, the Marlins must have done some pretty in depth research..

 

In Sun Life, they received no money for concessions, parking, etc. and did you know they had to pay 12% of all revenue as rent to play there? Thats alot of money,

 

now the ballpark is in a new location, new name new emblem new excitement

 

They gamble by signing players and the revenue will come in

 

Its a shocker i know but all the big payroll cities werent always big payroll cities, but franchises decided to gamble thats what business is.

have to believe that the Pujols stuff is plan B in case Reyes doesn't work out. I can't fathom them signing them both. And wow 9 years is crazy...

Just because they made the offer doesn't mean that it was a standing offer.

 

And we have NO PROOF (to my knowledge, anyway) that we offered $225,000,000.00. The original rumor was 5 years/$125 MM. Just because we supposedly offered $25MM/year does not mean that a 9 year deal we may or may not have offered would have the same yearly value.

9 years would be FAAAAAR too long for him in my opinion. I'd love watching him the first 3-4 years of that deal though lol.

 

Also if he's signed that of course makes Gaby very expendable and I could see them trying to trade him + something for Shields or Davis here in Tampa as TB could use a cheap productive 1b who plays quality D.

dam i hope all of this happends the wait is killin me

9 years would be FAAAAAR too long for him in my opinion.

 

maybe. but it makes it probable that one of the 10 best hitters to ever play baseball would retire as a Marlin.

 

I don't get why everyone on here thinks Pujols is suddenly going to hit a wall in 4-5 years.

dam i hope all of this happends the wait is killin me

 

 

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I think Pujols has to be nuts not to accept a 9-year offer for $25 Million annually...

I think Pujols has to be nuts not to accept a 9-year offer for $25 Million annually...

 

Maybe so, but there is still no word that we made him such an offer at that yearly value.

I think Pujols has to be nuts not to accept a 9-year offer for $25 Million annually...

 

Maybe so, but there is still no word that we made him such an offer at that yearly value.

 

Yea, but the Marlins have declined to comment on pretty much everything this offseason. Their lack of confirmation isn't exactly surprising.

I think Pujols has to be nuts not to accept a 9-year offer for $25 Million annually...

 

Maybe so, but there is still no word that we made him such an offer at that yearly value.

 

Yea, but the Marlins have declined to comment on pretty much everything this offseason. Their lack of confirmation isn't exactly surprising.

So, given the lack of confirmation, your conclusion is to assume they offered him 9 years/$225 MM? Oh, I get it.

I think Pujols has to be nuts not to accept a 9-year offer for $25 Million annually...

 

Maybe so, but there is still no word that we made him such an offer at that yearly value.

 

Yea, but the Marlins have declined to comment on pretty much everything this offseason. Their lack of confirmation isn't exactly surprising.

So, given the lack of confirmation, your conclusion is to assume they offered him 9 years/$225 MM? Oh, I get it.

 

It would certainly be a Wild Card

 

 

........ ?

someone mentioned he was also being offered a 10yr/300mil deal somewhere. I pity 'da fool.

 

of course it's all conjecture at this point.

someone mentioned he was also being offered a 10yr/300mil deal somewhere. I pity 'da fool.

 

of course it's all conjecture at this point.

 

 

I think if that were true he'd be wearing a new uni right now... considering I just read at ESPN the Cardinals last offer supposedly wasn't even beyond the $200 mill mark.

They verbally make an offer.

 

You're really tiresome when you have absolutely no clue about what you're talking about.

 

NOBODY makes any kind of binding employment offer that isn't IN WRITING to a member of a litigious union, particularly not one covered by a comprehensive and voluminous employment agreement. Say, like a member of the MLBPA. Pujols, for instance. Not for $200 million. Not for $2 million. Not even for Wes Helms kind of money.

 

Hypothetically, suppose the Marlins verbally indicate some interest in Pujols. Assuming interest on the part of Pujols (when I say Pujols, I mean Pujols and/or his agent,) the Marlins then verbally indicate some potential terms. Assuming further interest on the part of Pujols, the Marlins then verbally lay out what they would agree to, subject to some conditions.

 

Assuming continuing interest on the part of Pujols based on preliminary verbal negotiating, the Marlins would then put the deal they would agree to IN WRITING, subject to any number of conditions, terms and further negotiation, which Pujols may or may not ever agree to. All perhaps subject to some expiration date.

 

Now, finally, you actually have "an offer." In writing. It's not a matter of "Well, Admin said..."

 

The Marlins and all other teams have lawyers, to whom they routinely pay large amounts of money for exactly this sort of thing.

 

This is why it usually takes players and their agents a while to sort through the offers. Details. Specific terms. What can you live with. What you can't. Trade clauses. Performance bonuses. Appearance requirements. Options, player, or club or both. Etc.

 

The Marlins can back away at any moment after he accepts the offer. The Marlins are the ones who decide whether or not to turn in the paperwork and make Pujols a Marlin, not Pujols.

 

Not in our legal universe. If the Marlins actually made a valid offer (and that's possible to do verbally even though it's unlikely that any MLB offer in the last 40 years has been purely verbal) and Pujols accepted it, THAT'S IT.

 

If a deal has been reached it's not a matter of "turning in the paperwork."

Also, there isn't anything to confirm. The only reports were 5/125 and 9 years without a number.

... is completely right about the acceptance of an offer. Look up "[promissory] estoppel" and it will be clear.

There is a report from Yahoo that says 9 years, estimated 225:

 

The Miami Marlins aren’t messing around. Their standing offer to Albert Pujols(notes) is believed to be for nine years. With a competitive average annual value (say $25 million), that’s $225 million, minimum, and that’s more than what the St. Louis Cardinals are believed to have offered in the spring. Is it possible that two weeks into November Pujols could already have what will be his best offer?

 

http://sports.yahoo....cy_young_111511

 

Whether it's worth the electrons it took to publish it is another question.

^yeah, but who knows how legit that is.

 

... is completely right about the acceptance of an offer. Look up "[promissory] estoppel" and it will be clear.

 

I had to read this like 5 times before I realized what the f*** you were saying. stupid confusing username

You're really tiresome when you have absolutely no clue about what you're talking about.

 

NOBODY makes any kind of binding employment offer that isn't IN WRITING to a member of a litigious union, particularly not one covered by a comprehensive and voluminous employment agreement. Say, like a member of the MLBPA. Pujols, for instance. Not for $200 million. Not for $2 million. Not even for Wes Helms kind of money.

 

Hypothetically, suppose the Marlins verbally indicate some interest in Pujols. Assuming interest on the part of Pujols (when I say Pujols, I mean Pujols and/or his agent,) the Marlins then verbally indicate some potential terms. Assuming further interest on the part of Pujols, the Marlins then verbally lay out what they would agree to, subject to some conditions.

 

Assuming continuing interest on the part of Pujols based on preliminary verbal negotiating, the Marlins would then put the deal they would agree to IN WRITING, subject to any number of conditions, terms and further negotiation, which Pujols may or may not ever agree to. All perhaps subject to some expiration date.

 

Now, finally, you actually have "an offer." In writing. It's not a matter of "Well, Admin said..."

 

The Marlins and all other teams have lawyers, to whom they routinely pay large amounts of money for exactly this sort of thing.

 

This is why it usually takes players and their agents a while to sort through the offers. Details. Specific terms. What can you live with. What you can't. Trade clauses. Performance bonuses. Appearance requirements. Options, player, or club or both. Etc.

 

 

Oh I'm so tiresome. Let the great ... give me a walkthrough. Thank you for describing my exact thoughts and calling me stupid while you're at it, you tiresome f***. The difference is that this supposed 9 year offer theoretically isn't real. The offer could very well have never actually been made and just discussed.

 

 

The Marlins can back away at any moment after he accepts the offer. The Marlins are the ones who decide whether or not to turn in the paperwork and make Pujols a Marlin, not Pujols.

 

Not in our legal universe. If the Marlins actually made a valid offer (and that's possible to do verbally even though it's unlikely that any MLB offer in the last 40 years has been purely verbal) and Pujols accepted it, THAT'S IT.

 

If a deal has been reached it's not a matter of "turning in the paperwork."

 

What? Absolutely it is. The Marlins sign their name on the contract just like Albert Pujols does. If they have Pujols agreeing to a contract offer and they decide against it, they don't have to sign sh*t and they wont.

^yeah, but who knows how legit that is.

 

 

... is completely right about the acceptance of an offer. Look up "[promissory] estoppel" and it will be clear.

 

I had to read this like 5 times before I realized what the f*** you were saying. stupid confusing username

 

Me too. I was really lost with the flow of that sentence for a good while :lol

Oh I'm so tiresome

 

Yes, you are. Settle down and read what I said, carefully.

 

Then ask mystikol87 why you are totally, completely and absolutely wrong.

 

Sooner or later you will conclude that you don't have a clue about that of which you speak. It may take 10 or 20 years, but you'll get around to it, because the law of contracts is rather well-settled, no matter what you may think.

There is a report from Yahoo that says 9 years, estimated 225:

 

The Miami Marlins aren’t messing around. Their standing offer to Albert Pujols(notes) is believed to be for nine years. With a competitive average annual value (say $25 million), that’s $225 million, minimum, and that’s more than what the St. Louis Cardinals are believed to have offered in the spring. Is it possible that two weeks into November Pujols could already have what will be his best offer?

 

http://sports.yahoo....cy_young_111511

 

Whether it's worth the electrons it took to publish it is another question.

That's pure speculation, though. They heard 9 years, and they're assuming they would offer $25MM/year. But that's not what their sources are explicitly saying.