November 16, 201114 yr I think the Marlins knew all along they can't afford Pujols, but they want to make noise and drum up publicity. People here are going to be sorely disappointed with what the Marlins end up doing this offseason. If we do end up getting Reyes and Buerhle (Or even just Reyes), how can anyone be disappointed? El Penguino is hinting that we might not do much at all. Loria would never be able to face that one at opening day, and he wants to bask in glory that day. Unless he has a team that looks credible, he won't be able to do that. I didn't say that. I'm saying that they probably won't get Fielder or Pujols; they'll maybe get two of Jackson, Buehrle, Cespedes, and Reyes. My impression is that some people here are expecting them to do more than that. I think a lot of us are just excited that it's even a possibility. Most of us here realize that getting both Reyes and Pujols would put us far ahead of expected payroll projections. If we get Reyes plus one other from that list, I'm sure a lot of fans will be satisfied and wait for any possible trades to fill any other gaps. Reyes & Burhle would make me ESTATIC, anything else would be gravy.
November 16, 201114 yr I wonder what path of action samson has planned if pujols accepts. Off the 7 Mile Bridge. Better than The Second Mile. :suspect :lol
November 16, 201114 yr Even if Pujols decide not to take a 9yr/225M deal, and it turns out this offer is legit, I would be very happy. This is very exciting, for the first time ever, we would be willing to spend big money to sign players. It would be a very good sign for the Marlins fans! If you think about it, that's $40Mil+ increase payroll from last year, and thats only counting two FA (Pujols/Reyes)
November 16, 201114 yr I wonder who the 10 were? Hanley and JJ I bet. Then who? I would stay Stanton but I think he's been outta the country. Maybe Infante. LoMo? You can probably start with all the guys who were in last Friday's fashion show. That was Buck, Sanchez, Infante, Ramirez, Nolasco, Morrison, Johnson and Bonifacio. That means 2 more....who were they ? Who lives here in the off-season, that could be another clue.
November 16, 201114 yr Even if Pujols decide not to take a 9yr/225M deal, and it turns out this offer is legit, I would be very happy. This is very exciting, for the first time ever, we would be willing to spend big money to sign players. It would be a very good sign for the Marlins fans! You see... that's the whole reason they would make such an offer. To make you happy, even when he doesn't sign.
November 16, 201114 yr Even if Pujols decide not to take a 9yr/225M deal, and it turns out this offer is legit, I would be very happy. This is very exciting, for the first time ever, we would be willing to spend big money to sign players. It would be a very good sign for the Marlins fans! You see... that's the whole reason they would make such an offer. To make you happy, even when he doesn't sign. But the idea that your team is WILLING to spend that kind of money- that's a first to us. Why wouldn't you be happy?
November 16, 201114 yr I wonder who the 10 were? Hanley and JJ I bet. Then who? I would stay Stanton but I think he's been outta the country. Maybe Infante. LoMo? Albert looked around and said, "Where's Wes Helms? Not here? F*** this!"
November 16, 201114 yr Even if Pujols decide not to take a 9yr/225M deal, and it turns out this offer is legit, I would be very happy. This is very exciting, for the first time ever, we would be willing to spend big money to sign players. It would be a very good sign for the Marlins fans! You see... that's the whole reason they would make such an offer. To make you happy, even when he doesn't sign. But the idea that your team is WILLING to spend that kind of money- that's a first to us. Why wouldn't you be happy? honestly, for me, it would be bittersweet. It would make me happy that we are finally trying to become serious players, but I would be pissed that we didn't land the big one.
November 16, 201114 yr But the idea that your team is WILLING to spend that kind of money- that's a first to us. Why wouldn't you be happy? You're not getting it. The theory is that they're not actually willing to spend that kind of money. It's that they're making that offer just so that word gets out and you get excited. They're winning your confidence and winning your trust and turning the negative attitude/image of the Marlins FO into a positive one. Then... you buy your tickets. I'm not saying that is the case, but it very well could be. Proceed with cautious optimism.
November 16, 201114 yr Even if Pujols decide not to take a 9yr/225M deal, and it turns out this offer is legit, I would be very happy. This is very exciting, for the first time ever, we would be willing to spend big money to sign players. It would be a very good sign for the Marlins fans! You see... that's the whole reason they would make such an offer. To make you happy, even when he doesn't sign. But the idea that your team is WILLING to spend that kind of money- that's a first to us. Why wouldn't you be happy? honestly, for me, it would be bittersweet. It would make me happy that we are finally trying to become serious players, but I would be pissed that we didn't land the big one. My point is, 9yr/225Mil is a more than competitive deal. If he does decide to go elsewhere or stay in St.Louis, it's because of comfort (and not because we didn't offer him enough). You can't do anything about that.
November 16, 201114 yr But the idea that your team is WILLING to spend that kind of money- that's a first to us. Why wouldn't you be happy? You're not getting it. The theory is that they're not actually willing to spend that kind of money. It's that they're making that offer just so that word gets out and you get excited. They're winning your confidence and winning your trust and turning the negative attitude/image of the Marlins FO into a positive one. Then... you buy your tickets. I'm not saying that is the case, but it very well could be. Proceed with cautious optimism. What? No man. You don't play with 9yr/225Mil lol. That's like going to an auction and bidding on things you can't afford. The entire FO would get fired by MLB (IDK if that's possible, but MLB wouldn't allow that to happen).
November 16, 201114 yr But the idea that your team is WILLING to spend that kind of money- that's a first to us. Why wouldn't you be happy? You're not getting it. The theory is that they're not actually willing to spend that kind of money. It's that they're making that offer just so that word gets out and you get excited. They're winning your confidence and winning your trust and turning the negative attitude/image of the Marlins FO into a positive one. Then... you buy your tickets. I'm not saying that is the case, but it very well could be. Proceed with cautious optimism. What? No man. You don't play with 9yr/225Mil lol. That's like going to an auction and bidding on things you can't afford. The entire FO would get fired by MLB (IDK if that's possible, but MLB wouldn't allow that to happen). yeah thats not very good risk management. for all they know pujols could be like ok where do i sign? then they look around and say well on a second thought we have to think about it. no way they would do that it would shatter their credibility.
November 16, 201114 yr Author Just because they made the offer doesn't mean that it was a standing offer. And we have NO PROOF (to my knowledge, anyway) that we offered $225,000,000.00. The original rumor was 5 years/$125 MM. Just because we supposedly offered $25MM/year does not mean that a 9 year deal we may or may not have offered would have the same yearly value.
November 16, 201114 yr I really, really doubt this is a PR move. There not playing around with this. There offering Pujols a contract on the intent of signing him.
November 16, 201114 yr Don't believe any source until an actual deal is inked, for all we know this story is not true
November 16, 201114 yr The 9th person there was Vazquez with his wine collection. The 10th person there was Brett Hayes...for giggles.
November 16, 201114 yr The 10 people in the room to convince Pujols: 1. JJ 2. Hanley 3. LoMo 4. Stanton via Skype 5. Ryan Madson 6. Mark Buehrle 7. Yoennis Cespedes 8. Jose Reyes 9. Prince Fielder 10. Albert Pujols That's right. He was there to convince himself.
November 16, 201114 yr Where they Getting the Money to spend on these Free agents? And whats the plan to get the money back?
November 16, 201114 yr Where they Getting the Money to spend on these Free agents? And whats the plan to get the money back? We just got a new ball park, where we can get every cent of ticket sales, concession, etc. Is this a serious question?
November 16, 201114 yr Where they Getting the Money to spend on these Free agents? And whats the plan to get the money back? Passan, is that you?
November 16, 201114 yr Where they Getting the Money to spend on these Free agents? And whats the plan to get the money back? We just got a new ball park, where we can get every cent of ticket sales, concession, etc. Is this a serious question? I understand they will get the money back through tickets and connsessions, but will that be enough? Its abit of a gamble...I mean sometimes in Joe robbie thet would only get 12,000 people per game, is it guaranteed they will fill every seat...for every game...? I hope they do, the Marlins must have done some pretty in depth research..
November 16, 201114 yr Well if we get fat Albert i guess Lomo is not getin the jersey number 5 no more lol
November 16, 201114 yr What? No man. You don't play with 9yr/225Mil lol. That's like going to an auction and bidding on things you can't afford. The entire FO would get fired by MLB (IDK if that's possible, but MLB wouldn't allow that to happen). yeah thats not very good risk management. for all they know pujols could be like ok where do i sign? then they look around and say well on a second thought we have to think about it. no way they would do that it would shatter their credibility. That's not how an offer works. It's not like they give Albert Pujols a physical contract that says 'sign here' and if he signs it's said and done. They verbally make an offer. If Pujols likes it, they will sit down and work out a contract and its stipulations (which might also simply have been listed in the offer). The Marlins can back away at any moment after he accepts the offer. The Marlins are the ones who decide whether or not to turn in the paperwork and make Pujols a Marlin, not Pujols. It's nothing like going to a bidding auction you can't afford. It's like saying you're going to a bidding auction with a lot of money in your hand but no real intention to spend it, and coming home to impress your friends about how you 'lost' a bid on the grand daddy of them all. You weren't ever going to spend that money... God knows you couldn't because it's every last penny you own.
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